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Fox News, the GOP, and the loss of a generation


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I didn't say any of that. I'm saying that if Republicans are trying to distance themselves from their Congressmen and Senators and Governors etc etc, then perhaps it's time to take a look at who you're actually voting for.

 

Pardon my mistake then.

 

I had responded to True claiming conservative people don't feel a duty towards their fellow man. Then, you chimed in about how they voted.

 

That's why I went on that thought process.

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There have been times in my life when the only reason to vote R was to help insure that another liberal would not get nominated or voted into the Supreme Court.

 

And this is Exhibit A of how the current political process is failing America.

 

Are you saying this because he voted R for that reason, or, that anyone would vote for a candidate just based on the Supreme Court decisions?

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He's more bigot than Christian. Christ would have welcomed with love and open arms the people this goomba denounces. HUGE difference there.

 

I can call myself a Husker fan all I want, but if I cheer when Oklahoma scores TDs and boo when Nebraska scores... I'm kinda a Sooner fan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@Abdullah - just saw that post about Megyn Kelly. +1

 

I don't care what she says. I can hit mute. She's still hot.

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Buster, what?

 

Fox News put Phil Robertson, an ignorant Christian bigot, in a position to pose as an expert on radical Islam. He knows nothing about Islam. He is not an expert on anything other than duck calls. During that interview he also literally said how he'd fight radical islam - "convert them or kill them."

 

so, huge lol at him, at Fox, at anyone who listens to that crap.

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Not saying I would care or listen. Hannity is an idiot and his show is a joke.

 

But, nonchristians talk about Christianity all the time. He's free to talk about what ever he wants.

Here's the difference. If you live in this country, you have had very extensive contact with Christians. Its completely unavoidable. And that gives some level of knowledge about the subject. How many people have first hand knowledge of Islam? And of radical Islam in particular? Not many, and from the rural areas of the South, next to none. If I'm placing bets, his primary, and perhaps only, source of 'knowledge' about the subject comes from watching Fox News.

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Not saying I would care or listen. Hannity is an idiot and his show is a joke.

 

But, nonchristians talk about Christianity all the time. He's free to talk about what ever he wants.

 

Sure is. And I'm free to point out exactly how moronic both Fox and Robertson both are.

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Buster, what?

 

Fox News put Phil Robertson, an ignorant Christian bigot, in a position to pose as an expert on radical Islam. He knows nothing about Islam. He is not an expert on anything other than duck calls. During that interview he also literally said how he'd fight radical islam - "convert them or kill them."

 

so, huge lol at him, at Fox, at anyone who listens to that crap.

 

We understand your problem with the messenger (you called Phil Robertson a Christian bigot, poser, know-nothing, non-expert)

 

Please elaborate on your problem with his message?

 

The "Convert them or kill them" statement in full context :

 

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HANNITY: You dedicated this, your book, to Miss Kay, which I thought was really nice. Let me ask you first. I wrote a book once, "Deliver Us from Evil." I think good people have a hard concept understanding evil. That book talks about evil you have there in front of you. The lord's prayer says "deliver us from evil." I think you're a preacher at heart. I'm not telling you anything you don't know. But if anybody could cut off somebody's head like that and put children's heads on our stakes, isn't that evil in our time? And how should we deal with it?
ROBERTSON: Worldwide, planet-wide, Biblically speaking, two groups of people, the children of God, and the whole world is under the control of the evil one. That's First John 5:19. The evil one works in those who are disobedient. Galatians 3, they are prisoners of sin. Second Timothy 2, the Bible says they've been taken captive by Satan to do his will.
Listen, let me show you one. I've got the old -- hey, America, Declaration of Independence, it's my book marker. Don't forget that. Listen to this, Sean. Solomon, one of the wisest men on earth if not the wisest, he's speaking of wisdom, "Whoever finds me, wisdom finds light. Watch and receives favor from the lord. But whoever fails to find me," this is the God of the Bible, "harms himself." Now, listen to this on this ISIS thing, "All who hate me love death."
So you scratch your head and you say, well, why is it that when we're not even over there in the Middle East, why do they continue to slaughter each other when we're not even on the premises? They can't blame us. We left Iraq. You said what happened in Egypt and Syria, you say in Libya. They just slaughter each other. You say, what? "All who hate me love death," Sean.
HANNITY: What is the answer? I think the only answer is, I think they are at war with us.
ROBERTSON: Yes.
HANNITY: Whether we like it or not, I think most people would rather live in peace. Most Americans, just leave us alone, we'll leave you alone. They're not going to leave us alone. They're not going to leave Israel alone. So that leaves us with two options -- do nothing and get ready for the next attack. And then we'll have a report that says, they're at war with us, we weren't at war with them.
ROBERTSON: In this case you either have to convert them, which I think would be next to impossible. I'm not giving up on them, but I'm just saying, either convert them or kill them. One or the other.
HANNITY: That's going --
ROBERTSON: Maybe that time has come and gone, so I think that with this ideology that we're faced with, this is like street gangs, street thugs on steroids. You think about it, most of the wars we've fought, they were not asymmetrical like this one. This one, it's not a country with a standing army, and we line up and do battle with a certain amount of rules that they violate. But you say this is more like worldwide gang warfare, but this gang is well-armed and well-organized. I think, my opinion, we're going to have to deal with this group way more harshly than we have up to this point.
HANNITY: Because they're so harsh. I know they're going to be people that are always looking to jump on you and say, "Convert them or kill them." And they're going to say, "There goes Phil Robertson again." I know the media. I know they how act.

ROBERTSON: I'd much rather have a Bible study with all of them and show them the error of their ways and point them to Jesus Christ, the author and perfector of having your sins removed and being raised from the dead. I would rather preach the gospel of Jesus to them. However, if it's a gun fight and a gun fight alone, if that is what they're looking for, me, personally I am prepared for either one..

 

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There have been times in my life when the only reason to vote R was to help insure that another liberal would not get nominated or voted into the Supreme Court.

 

And this is Exhibit A of how the current political process is failing America.

 

Are you saying this because he voted R for that reason, or, that anyone would vote for a candidate just based on the Supreme Court decisions?

 

 

Yes--it shows a lack of understanding of the Supreme Court Justice nomination process. Plus, pulling the R lever because you don't want to pull the D lever is base level stupidity IMO--you should never pull the lever based on party affiliation, and you *should* pull the lever because they're the better candidate.

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There have been times in my life when the only reason to vote R was to help insure that another liberal would not get nominated or voted into the Supreme Court.

 

And this is Exhibit A of how the current political process is failing America.

 

Are you saying this because he voted R for that reason, or, that anyone would vote for a candidate just based on the Supreme Court decisions?

 

 

Yes--it shows a lack of understanding of the Supreme Court Justice nomination process. Plus, pulling the R lever because you don't want to pull the D lever is base level stupidity IMO--you should never pull the lever based on party affiliation, and you *should* pull the lever because they're the better candidate.

 

I agree. Anyone who just pulls a lever based on the party is a problem no matter which party it is.

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