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Here is something I have always found interesting. I was on a board once where a guy did this. It looks like Josh Harvey has taken over doing it.

The idea is that when looking at recruiting needs, you should be able to build a two deep with two consecutive classes. So....you would look at last year's class and combine that with this year's class and you should be able to put together a two deep.

 

Looking at Josh's article, it looks like we definitely need (Current commit's taken into consideration):

 

QB 1

RB 1

WR 0 Currently 2

TE 2

OL 6

DT 4

DE 3

LB 2 Currently 1

DB 3

 

Now, we have 3 commits so adding those to the list, that's 25 recruits for this class. If we end up being able to take 25-27, that leaves room for taking a few other players if we want to build more depth at a position.

 

Just gives you a little idea of how the staff may want to distribute the scholarships.

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Here is something I have always found interesting. I was on a board once where a guy did this. It looks like Josh Harvey has taken over doing it.

The idea is that when looking at recruiting needs, you should be able to build a two deep with two consecutive classes. So....you would look at last year's class and combine that with this year's class and you should be able to put together a two deep.

 

Looking at Josh's article, it looks like we definitely need (Current commit's taken into consideration):

 

QB 1

RB 1

WR 0 Currently 2

OL 6

DT 4

DE 3

LB 2 Currently 1

DB 3

 

Now, we have 3 commits so adding those to the list, that's 23 recruits for this class. If we end up being able to take 25-27, that leaves room for taking a few other players if we want to build more depth at a position.

 

Just gives you a little idea of how the staff may want to distribute the scholarships.

That list leaves out TE's, which I think the staff would want at least 1-2.

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Here is something I have always found interesting. I was on a board once where a guy did this. It looks like Josh Harvey has taken over doing it.

The idea is that when looking at recruiting needs, you should be able to build a two deep with two consecutive classes. So....you would look at last year's class and combine that with this year's class and you should be able to put together a two deep.

 

Looking at Josh's article, it looks like we definitely need (Current commit's taken into consideration):

 

QB 1

RB 1

WR 0 Currently 2

OL 6

DT 4

DE 3

LB 2 Currently 1

DB 3

 

Now, we have 3 commits so adding those to the list, that's 23 recruits for this class. If we end up being able to take 25-27, that leaves room for taking a few other players if we want to build more depth at a position.

 

Just gives you a little idea of how the staff may want to distribute the scholarships.

That list leaves out TE's, which I think the staff would want at least 1-2.

 

Sorry...yes...I missed that. I'll edit my original post.

 

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Wow, four DTs. Not good. I can see us taking three HS DTs, but I'm not sure a recruit would want to be one of four for this position. Hopefully snag a JUCO to slide into a previous class.

 

I don't think we need a JUCO DT. I'd bet we get 2 for sure and hopefully 3. The Davis twins will carry us for the next four years. Need a couple this year for depth behind them then a couple more next year to start re-stocking.

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I see what you're saying, but I'm guessing any HS DTs wouldn't be able to provide depth in Fall 17, as they'd most likely redshirt. After this season we have just four scholly DTs, with Newell, Stoltenberg and the Davises, none of which have proven anything yet. We won't have any seniors at the position that year either, because Curry left and VV didn't redshirt, IIRC.

 

BTW, love that you keep this up to date: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zWWql_2Msb4BpObcRUdvfJUghW10MXbxGav4Z2TZfYU/edit#gid=1595977448

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I see what you're saying, but I'm guessing any HS DTs wouldn't be able to provide depth in Fall 17, as they'd most likely redshirt. After this season we have just four scholly DTs, with Newell, Stoltenberg and the Davises, none of which have proven anything yet. We won't have any seniors at the position that year either, because Curry left and VV didn't redshirt, IIRC.

 

BTW, love that you keep this up to date: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zWWql_2Msb4BpObcRUdvfJUghW10MXbxGav4Z2TZfYU/edit#gid=1595977448

 

Yeah, it's always a bit of speculation. But Stoltenberg played some last year and they were close to burning one of the Davis' redhsirts. So the coaches already thought they could contribute last year. I'm hoping that means they're not that far off.

 

I do try to keep that updated. But apparently I need to get my 2017 tab added now.

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Both the coaches and Rivals have stated the staff will be taking 3 TE's, 1 QB, 3 OT's, and 3 DT's in this class. From rumblings I am hearing they would like one of those DT's and TE's to be JUCO's due to a lack of upperclassmen at those 2 positions. They'd like to balance the classes more.

I haven't heard anything on numbers of receivers but I know they have 2 committed and are still going after more. They will take at least 3, maybe 4-5 if they get the right ones. Coach Williams said he hasn't been told what to cap it at.

I don't think they take more than 1 RB with Ozigbo, Wilbon, and Tre all here next year.

We know they need pass rushing ends and they have thrown a lot of offers out. You'd think they take 2.

They want 3 LBers.

I'm also told they would like to take a kicker since Jamie Sutcliffe will be a senior this year and Drew Brown only has 1 year left after this year. They'd like someone to redshirt under Drew and be mentored for a year, but that is a luxury and they could wait till next year if they need the spot at another position.

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Both the coaches and Rivals have stated the staff will be taking 3 TE's, 1 QB, 3 OT's, and 3 DT's in this class. From rumblings I am hearing they would like one of those DT's and TE's to be JUCO's due to a lack of upperclassmen at those 2 positions. They'd like to balance the classes more.

I haven't heard anything on numbers of receivers but I know they have 2 committed and are still going after more. They will take at least 3, maybe 4-5 if they get the right ones. Coach Williams said he hasn't been told what to cap it at.

I don't think they take more than 1 RB with Ozigbo, Wilbon, and Tre all here next year.

We know they need pass rushing ends and they have thrown a lot of offers out. You'd think they take 2.

They want 3 LBers.

I'm also told they would like to take a kicker since Jamie Sutcliffe will be a senior this year and Drew Brown only has 1 year left after this year. They'd like someone to redshirt under Drew and be mentored for a year, but that is a luxury and they could wait till next year if they need the spot at another position.

Uhhh, what do we call Lightbourne in regards to a kicker?

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Was thinking this class may be about 24 earlier. But we added a couple guys (Lee and Williams) so we have 19 open spots plus 3 so 22 is the number for now.

 

Kind of seemed like there should be some more interests to list but I really didn't find a whole lot more that have really showed significant interest. I'm sure there are more, just not sure who.

Priority:
OT - There will only be five scholarship OTs left after this year and two will be seniors.
DT - Only four left after this year. Behind by not taking one last year. For sure need two.
QB - Need to keep adding depth
DE - Numbers aren't bad but really need some game-changers
TE - Only three after this year but at least they're young.

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QB - 1 - Tristan Gebbia
RB - 1 -

FB - 0-1 - Ben Miles
WR - 3-4 - KEYSHAWN JOHNSON Jr., JAEVON McQUITTY, Jamire Calvin, Nick Pickett, Maruice Bell, Taariq Johnson, Jeremiah Hawkins
TE - 2-3 - Austin Allen
OT - 2-3 - Mark Kallenberger, Alan Ali, Brenden Jaimes, Blaise Andries
OG/C - 1-2 -

DT - 2-3 - Isaiah Johnson (JUCO)
DE - 1-2 -
LB - 2-3 - WILLIE HAMPTON, Avery Roberts
CB - 1-2 - Darnay Holmes, Jamarri Jackson, Deommodore Lenoir
S - 1-2 -

ATH - 1-2 - Roshauud Paul, Dalton Keene,

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Both the coaches and Rivals have stated the staff will be taking 3 TE's, 1 QB, 3 OT's, and 3 DT's in this class. From rumblings I am hearing they would like one of those DT's and TE's to be JUCO's due to a lack of upperclassmen at those 2 positions. They'd like to balance the classes more.

I haven't heard anything on numbers of receivers but I know they have 2 committed and are still going after more. They will take at least 3, maybe 4-5 if they get the right ones. Coach Williams said he hasn't been told what to cap it at.

I don't think they take more than 1 RB with Ozigbo, Wilbon, and Tre all here next year.

We know they need pass rushing ends and they have thrown a lot of offers out. You'd think they take 2.

They want 3 LBers.

I'm also told they would like to take a kicker since Jamie Sutcliffe will be a senior this year and Drew Brown only has 1 year left after this year. They'd like someone to redshirt under Drew and be mentored for a year, but that is a luxury and they could wait till next year if they need the spot at another position.

Uhhh, what do we call Lightbourne in regards to a kicker?

He's only being brought in to punt and is training under Sam. He may also do kickoffs but will not be a fg kicker.

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RB Stephen Carr though committed to USC has expressed interest

 

"Expressed interest" is a pretty loose term. It's tough to know where to draw the line but I like to keep it to guys who I feel pretty confident are seriously interested. For me, that generally means either setting a visit date, having visited or at least made some sort of Top 5/10. "Wanting to visit" doesn't cut it. As we've seen today, recruits can talk things up pretty good - even after visiting - and quickly jump ship.

 

That's fine if others want to have a bigger list. But that's mine (for now).

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Bet we end up closer to 25 than 15...

 

But, But, But they are just cali kids - do they really count? #500MileRadius

 

signed CM

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Clouse was saying that next year could be a top 20 class and maybe 15...I think he was underselling a bit. I am smelling top 10

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Clouse was saying that next year could be a top 20 class and maybe 15...I think he was underselling a bit. I am smelling top 10

 

If you add Avery Roberts and Darnay Holmes to the class right now we would be ranked 13.

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Clouse was saying that next year could be a top 20 class and maybe 15...I think he was underselling a bit. I am smelling top 10

 

If you add Avery Roberts and Darnay Holmes to the class right now we would be ranked 13.

 

Hahah, I love the kool-aid around here - Avery Roberts is a good next bet, but we should all pump the brakes on Darnay. We have a good shot, but calculating what he'll do to our rankings could leave you set up for some disappointment.

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Clouse was saying that next year could be a top 20 class and maybe 15...I think he was underselling a bit. I am smelling top 10

If you add Avery Roberts and Darnay Holmes to the class right now we would be ranked 13.

Hahah, I love the kool-aid around here - Avery Roberts is a good next bet, but we should all pump the brakes on Darnay. We have a good shot, but calculating what he'll do to our rankings could leave you set up for some disappointment.

Why do I need to pump brakes and not think of possibilities of what might happen in the future?

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Bet we end up closer to 25 than 15...

 

I'll take the other side Matty. Loser buys beer before a game in 2018 (if we can get to the same one I'll probably make one).

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https://twitter.com/joshharveyscout/status/717131642742005761

 

Bet we end up closer to 25 than 15...

I'll take the other side Matty. Loser buys beer before a game in 2018 (if we can get to the same one I'll probably make one).

Goodness, has no one ever read posts by that punk who was blabbing about Nebraska finishing closer to 40 than 15? I'm just being a sarcastic a-hole. I'm a sunshine pumper bro. I'm believing in a top 10 class right meow! GBR! But I'll still do the best thing if you want!

 

(I believe it was GOAT)

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How much more am I reading into this than needs to be? Why are there only three recruits "✔️" and not a fourth?

Didn't we get two commits in one day?
Hampton committed 3/9

Willie Hampton is currently a 3 star and isn't on that tweet

Yup yup, but I'm (probably overthinking) wondering why.

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I'll take the other side Matty. Loser buys beer before a game in 2018 (if we can get to the same one I'll probably make one).

Goodness, has no one ever read posts by that punk who was blabbing about Nebraska finishing closer to 40 than 15? I'm just being a sarcastic a-hole. I'm a sunshine pumper bro. I'm believing in a top 10 class right meow! GBR! But I'll still do the best thing if you want!

(I believe it was GOAT)

It was GOAT. Heard he and cm husker love pissing in Cheerios together.

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I've been studying the numbers and our 3 biggest positions of need in this class based on scholarship bodies, youth, and lack of depth are OT, DT, and TE.

 

We only have 4 scholarship tackles on the team next year and desperately need some upperclassmen. We need a JUCO and 2 HS players at tackle in 2017.

We lose 3 seniors at DT and behind that we have Stoltenberg, Newell, and the davis twins. With our history of injuries at that position we need at least 2, preferably 3 tackles. There are no upperclassmen so a JUCO would be nice for immediate contribution and to balance #'s.

We lose 3 TE's and only have 3 on the team after that. Snyder needs development and we haven't seen the 2016 signees yet. Riley wants 2-3, with one possibly being a JUCO. We have no upperclassmen at this position.

 

Next I look at the second tier needs...

We have some solid players at WR but we need to use the momentum we have right now to pull 4-5 freaks in this year. Mike likes some 4 WR sets and to do that we need 10-12 on the team. Plus with the history of hamstring and groin injuries with this group depth is a must.

 

Our depth strengths?

We have a lot of youth at CB, S, LB, and DE. We've got 4-6 Underclassmen at each of those positions.

We have strong depth at QB (Lee, O'Brien, Gebbia)

We have strong depth at RB (Ozigbo, Wilbon, Bryant)

We have 7 promising young guys at OG/C. We could use 1 good player in this class but only if he is really good.

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1 QB

1 RB

3 FB/TE

3 OT

1 OG

5 WR

(14 offense)

 

2 DT

2 DE

3 LB

4 DB

(11 defense)

 

Puts us at 25 man class. Which seems likely.

I don't see us taking 4 DB. We need the numbers at other positions too badly and we don't lose any comers and have 3 coming in. All 7 CB's will be back next season. (Jones, Kalu, Joseph, Lee, Jackson, Dismuke, Bootle)

We also have K Williams, A Williams, A Reed, A Anderson, Butler, and Domann at safety. We really only need 1 corner and 1 safety.

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1 QB

1 RB

3 FB/TE

3 OT

1 OG

5 WR

(14 offense)

 

2 DT

2 DE

3 LB

4 DB

(11 defense)

 

Puts us at 25 man class. Which seems likely.

I don't see us taking 4 DB. We need the numbers at other positions too badly and we don't lose any comers and have 3 coming in. All 7 CB's will be back next season. (Jones, Kalu, Joseph, Lee, Jackson, Dismuke, Bootle)

We also have K Williams, A Williams, A Reed, A Anderson, Butler, and Domann at safety. We really only need 1 corner and 1 safety.

If we are trying to recruit a two deep every two years we need two S and one CB. If someone skips a redshirt, which is probably likely, then you to replace that one as well.

 

If we take one of each and they both flop, then you have a hole in the secondary for the future.

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Keith Williams has a tweet about "more good news last night" and a video of him dancing. Assuming this is another commit? Or maybe just related to Lindsay's visit?

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