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Well I'd say with this story being out there coupled with the pearl clutching over MSU clapping during the game I'd say the deflection away from why Nebraska looked completely overmatched for three and a half quarters against MSU has been successfully executed.

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I agree that it is crap to go after a family... but not talking does't solve his problems. Saying it out loud and expressing his disappointment about what happened would probably deter some of that. Not saying anything makes me feel like he isn't handling it well - almost a teenage cold shoulder reaction to a problem. I know that probably isn't the case but without hearing it from him it leaves us all to ponder... which is not a good move on his part.

For which...then he would obviously have fans saying....."OMG....suck it up. Just do your job....this happens everywhere....bla bla bla....."

 

 

And, right on cue.

 

Well I'd say with this story being out there coupled with the pearl clutching over MSU clapping during the game I'd say the deflection away from why Nebraska looked completely overmatched for three and a half quarters against MSU has been successfully executed.

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I agree that it is crap to go after a family... but not talking does't solve his problems. Saying it out loud and expressing his disappointment about what happened would probably deter some of that. Not saying anything makes me feel like he isn't handling it well - almost a teenage cold shoulder reaction to a problem. I know that probably isn't the case but without hearing it from him it leaves us all to ponder... which is not a good move on his part.

For which...then he would obviously have fans saying....."OMG....suck it up. Just do your job....this happens everywhere....bla bla bla....."

 

Exactly. They would and of course if he choses to not say anything people complain. Seriously, if he was to publicly say anything about it, the problem could very well get worse. Is that a risk a man wants to take for his family? And for those that brush it off and think he should deal with it, it comes with the job...What if it gets worse? What if there are threats? You know, that has happened to coaches before. Heck Richrod had a death threat on a family member or maybe himself, can't remember. And that was because they were pissed he was LEAVING!

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I agree that it is crap to go after a family... but not talking does't solve his problems. Saying it out loud and expressing his disappointment about what happened would probably deter some of that. Not saying anything makes me feel like he isn't handling it well - almost a teenage cold shoulder reaction to a problem. I know that probably isn't the case but without hearing it from him it leaves us all to ponder... which is not a good move on his part.

 

For which...then he would obviously have fans saying....."OMG....suck it up. Just do your job....this happens everywhere....bla bla bla....."

Exactly. They would and of course if he choses to not say anything people complain. Seriously, if he was to publicly say anything about it, the problem could very well get worse. Is that a risk a man wants to take for his family? And for those that brush it off and think he should deal with it, it comes with the job...What if it gets worse? What if there are threats? You know, that has happened to coaches before. Heck Richrod had a death threat on a family member or maybe himself, can't remember. And that was because they were pissed he was LEAVING!
I'm in no way condoning this behavior. But it's incredibly unlikely it's going to get worse.

 

I also highly doubt this is the first time it's happened.

 

And, if he's really honestly threatened, the Lincoln police would be the people I would tell, not the Lincoln media.

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"Through these gates pass the greatest fans in college football"

 

(Unless they are interacting with fellow fans and or members of the team and or coaching staff)

that is awfully sanctimonious. the fans did not ask to be held in such esteem. all the majority of fans do is show a loyalty and support for a team during good times and bad that is unique to this program (e.g. sellout streak).

 

but whenever a few bad apples besmirch our reputation, we get that thrown in our faces? how nice.

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Some people are jackasses, what does anyone expect? Let's not pretend like this is more than a handful of people, much less the majority. It happens. Everywhere.

 

I googled "coach family harassed fans" and these are like five of an endless amount of hits.

 

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2005/10/21/Maddox-Fans-are-harassing-Maddox-family-feeling-the-loss/stories/200510210171

 

Maddox declined to be specific on what items were thrown in his yard after the game. But he said he has never been subjected to such incidents in any of the three other NFL cities -- Denver, Los Angeles and New York -- in which he has played.

 

Some of Maddox's teammates said even his grade-school children were heckled at school

 

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24052252/report-police-called-after-texans-fan-harasses-matt-schaub-at-home

 

Matt Schaub has been catching heat in and around Houston for his play on the field with the Texans lately. But if the latest report is true, Houstonians need to get a hold of themselves.

According to CBS Houston, Texans fans accosted Schaub at his home on Tuesday evening and "berated him for his poor play."

"A fan went to his house and told him off," a law enforcement source told CBS Houston.

 

 

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3186883

 

Relatives of Rich Rodriguez have been harassed and threatened in the three weeks since his resignation as West Virginia football coach.

His mother, Arleen Rodriguez, said her teen grandson received a death threat and found other harassing notes taped to his locker at East Fairmont High School. Arleen said her 12-year-old granddaughter had to be escorted to classes.

 

 

 

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2011/03/11/rumblings-3-11-art-gl0bu32m-1.html

Herbstreit said the move to Nashville, Tenn., was because of the constant criticism he has received from a vocal minority of Ohio State fans who don't understand that his job at the network demands objectivity and fairness.

 

 

 

So, yes, those fans (Nebraska and otherwise) who do crap like this are scumbags. But this isn't a problem unique to Nebraska and people should stop acting like these idiots speak for the whole of the fanbase.

I agree with what you said except, 1 is an NFL coach so a little different, not much, but a little. One a player, and then Herby, whatever he is. I know it happens at other schools, but seriusly, it DOESN't happen way more often and at a majority of schools, and it should never happen here, or anywhere for that matter. Anyone that thinks it doesn't affect coaches either already here or who would consider coming here, has blinders on and GUARANTEE has never walked in those shoes and if confronted with the situation would most likely cower.

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Well I'd say with this story being out there coupled with the pearl clutching over MSU clapping during the game I'd say the deflection away from why Nebraska looked completely overmatched for three and a half quarters against MSU has been successfully executed.

 

If only I could find a thread willing to blame the players, coaches, schemes and playcalling....

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I agree that it is crap to go after a family... but not talking does't solve his problems. Saying it out loud and expressing his disappointment about what happened would probably deter some of that. Not saying anything makes me feel like he isn't handling it well - almost a teenage cold shoulder reaction to a problem. I know that probably isn't the case but without hearing it from him it leaves us all to ponder... which is not a good move on his part.

For which...then he would obviously have fans saying....."OMG....suck it up. Just do your job....this happens everywhere....bla bla bla....."
Exactly. They would and of course if he choses to not say anything people complain. Seriously, if he was to publicly say anything about it, the problem could very well get worse. Is that a risk a man wants to take for his family? And for those that brush it off and think he should deal with it, it comes with the job...What if it gets worse? What if there are threats? You know, that has happened to coaches before. Heck Richrod had a death threat on a family member or maybe himself, can't remember. And that was because they were pissed he was LEAVING!
I'm in no way condoning this behavior. But it's incredibly unlikely it's going to get worse.

 

I also highly doubt this is the first time it's happened.

 

And, if he's really honestly threatened, the Lincoln police would be the people I would tell, not the Lincoln media.

 

I know you're not condoning it, BUT how do you know it's unlikely it gets worse? If you're in those shoes do you brush it off like that? I doubt it. As far as threatened, I didn't say he was because I have no idea. But I do know for a fact that often times when a response is given, the behavior gets worse. Basic human psychology back up with case after case of when that has held true. People can sit on here and brush it off and be pissed he won't talk to media, whatever, but unless you've been there you can't even guess at what he's feeling or how much worse or even better the situation will get.

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I agree that it is crap to go after a family... but not talking does't solve his problems. Saying it out loud and expressing his disappointment about what happened would probably deter some of that. Not saying anything makes me feel like he isn't handling it well - almost a teenage cold shoulder reaction to a problem. I know that probably isn't the case but without hearing it from him it leaves us all to ponder... which is not a good move on his part.

 

For which...then he would obviously have fans saying....."OMG....suck it up. Just do your job....this happens everywhere....bla bla bla....."
Exactly. They would and of course if he choses to not say anything people complain. Seriously, if he was to publicly say anything about it, the problem could very well get worse. Is that a risk a man wants to take for his family? And for those that brush it off and think he should deal with it, it comes with the job...What if it gets worse? What if there are threats? You know, that has happened to coaches before. Heck Richrod had a death threat on a family member or maybe himself, can't remember. And that was because they were pissed he was LEAVING!
I'm in no way condoning this behavior. But it's incredibly unlikely it's going to get worse.

I also highly doubt this is the first time it's happened.

And, if he's really honestly threatened, the Lincoln police would be the people I would tell, not the Lincoln media.

I know you're not condoning it, BUT how do you know it's unlikely it gets worse? If you're in those shoes do you brush it off like that? I doubt it. As far as threatened, I didn't say he was because I have no idea. But I do know for a fact that often times when a response is given, the behavior gets worse. Basic human psychology back up with case after case of when that has held true. People can sit on here and brush it off and be pissed he won't talk to media, whatever, but unless you've been there you can't even guess at what he's feeling or how much worse or even better the situation will get.

Well, my experience with an employee I had to let go and him spending the weekend threatening me isn't at all the same, but I have been in that situation.

 

And I'm fairly confident it's not going to get worse for Tim Beck is because he's a public figure in Lincoln and he has numerous resources some don't to prevent any situation like that from escalating to a point of tragedy. It's just not going to happen. Coaches get harassed in football crazed towns on all levels and have for a long time. That's incredibly sh**ty, and I'd never ever do no matter my feelings toward a coach, but I'm also not a crazy a-hole.

 

Beck has a hard job that is likely cluttered with a lot of crap. But he's also very well compensated for it, so he unfortunately has to learn to roll with it. It would happen at other places. Look at the crap Watson took here and now look at his situation in Austin. It's inescapable.

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For which...then he would obviously have fans saying....."OMG....suck it up. Just do your job....this happens everywhere....bla bla bla....."
Exactly. They would and of course if he choses to not say anything people complain. Seriously, if he was to publicly say anything about it, the problem could very well get worse. Is that a risk a man wants to take for his family? And for those that brush it off and think he should deal with it, it comes with the job...What if it gets worse? What if there are threats? You know, that has happened to coaches before. Heck Richrod had a death threat on a family member or maybe himself, can't remember. And that was because they were pissed he was LEAVING!
I'm in no way condoning this behavior. But it's incredibly unlikely it's going to get worse.

I also highly doubt this is the first time it's happened.

And, if he's really honestly threatened, the Lincoln police would be the people I would tell, not the Lincoln media.

I know you're not condoning it, BUT how do you know it's unlikely it gets worse? If you're in those shoes do you brush it off like that? I doubt it. As far as threatened, I didn't say he was because I have no idea. But I do know for a fact that often times when a response is given, the behavior gets worse. Basic human psychology back up with case after case of when that has held true. People can sit on here and brush it off and be pissed he won't talk to media, whatever, but unless you've been there you can't even guess at what he's feeling or how much worse or even better the situation will get.

Well, my experience with an employee I had to let go and him spending the weekend threatening me isn't at all the same, but I have been in that situation.

 

And I'm fairly confident it's not going to get worse for Tim Beck is because he's a public figure in Lincoln and he has numerous resources some don't to prevent any situation like that from escalating to a point of tragedy. It's just not going to happen. Coaches get harassed in football crazed towns on all levels and have for a long time. That's incredibly sh**ty, and I'd never ever do no matter my feelings toward a coach, but I'm also not a crazy a-hole.

 

Beck has a hard job that is likely cluttered with a lot of crap. But he's also very well compensated for it, so he unfortunately has to learn to roll with it. It would happen at other places. Look at the crap Watson took here and now look at his situation in Austin. It's inescapable.

 

You're right, your situation is not even remotely the same. Your's was one person, you knew them, and knew there weren't others, and also had a pretty good idea of what that person was capable of. Not even close to the same. I agree, it does happen elsewhere, but it is far from the norm as you want to think it is. If it was the norm, you'd hear much more about it. Why do these incidents make the news? Because it's NEWs, not what you hear everyday happening. As far as the compensation...Many, maybe most people really far overestimate what money means to coaches. Do they look for the highest paying job available? Sure, but success and happiness have a lot of say there too. Most coaches don't get into coaching for money. They get in because they have a desire to compete, to help others compete, to win. That is true at any level.

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For which...then he would obviously have fans saying....."OMG....suck it up. Just do your job....this happens everywhere....bla bla bla....."

Exactly. They would and of course if he choses to not say anything people complain. Seriously, if he was to publicly say anything about it, the problem could very well get worse. Is that a risk a man wants to take for his family? And for those that brush it off and think he should deal with it, it comes with the job...What if it gets worse? What if there are threats? You know, that has happened to coaches before. Heck Richrod had a death threat on a family member or maybe himself, can't remember. And that was because they were pissed he was LEAVING!

I'm in no way condoning this behavior. But it's incredibly unlikely it's going to get worse.

I also highly doubt this is the first time it's happened.

And, if he's really honestly threatened, the Lincoln police would be the people I would tell, not the Lincoln media.

I know you're not condoning it, BUT how do you know it's unlikely it gets worse? If you're in those shoes do you brush it off like that? I doubt it. As far as threatened, I didn't say he was because I have no idea. But I do know for a fact that often times when a response is given, the behavior gets worse. Basic human psychology back up with case after case of when that has held true. People can sit on here and brush it off and be pissed he won't talk to media, whatever, but unless you've been there you can't even guess at what he's feeling or how much worse or even better the situation will get.

 

Well, my experience with an employee I had to let go and him spending the weekend threatening me isn't at all the same, but I have been in that situation.

And I'm fairly confident it's not going to get worse for Tim Beck is because he's a public figure in Lincoln and he has numerous resources some don't to prevent any situation like that from escalating to a point of tragedy. It's just not going to happen. Coaches get harassed in football crazed towns on all levels and have for a long time. That's incredibly sh**ty, and I'd never ever do no matter my feelings toward a coach, but I'm also not a crazy a-hole.

Beck has a hard job that is likely cluttered with a lot of crap. But he's also very well compensated for it, so he unfortunately has to learn to roll with it. It would happen at other places. Look at the crap Watson took here and now look at his situation in Austin. It's inescapable.

You're right, your situation is not even remotely the same. Your's was one person, you knew them, and knew there weren't others, and also had a pretty good idea of what that person was capable of. Not even close to the same. I agree, it does happen elsewhere, but it is far from the norm as you want to think it is. If it was the norm, you'd hear much more about it. Why do these incidents make the news? Because it's NEWs, not what you hear everyday happening. As far as the compensation...Many, maybe most people really far overestimate what money means to coaches. Do they look for the highest paying job available? Sure, but success and happiness have a lot of say there too. Most coaches don't get into coaching for money. They get in because they have a desire to compete, to help others compete, to win. That is true at any level.

 

Let's not pretend this phenomenon is a big story. We only know about it because we are big Husker fans. It could very well be happening in say, Gainesville, but it's out of our media loop.

 

This story isn't cracking the wire outside of Nebraska.

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