seaofred92 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 its truly mind boggling that we refuse to recruit Iowa Western 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 Been thinking about this for awhile but finally got around to really looking at it. Crazy how down Class A in Nebraska has been for several years now when it comes to producing legit Power 5 prospects. Here are the top five prospects from the state according to the 247 Composite and which class they played in high school. Players the Husker got are highlighted red. Players are crossed out if they didn't go to a Power 5 school (Marsh originally walked-on at NU then transferred). 2018 - Jurgens (B), Williams (A), Mapieu (B), Schlager (B) 2017 - Allen (B), Walker (A), Bradley (A), Strom (A), Kitrell (B) 2016 - Fant (A), Bubak (C), Stille (B), Manchigiah (A), Cromer (B) 2015 - Neal (A), Decker (A), Holtorf (B), Johnson (A), Strong (A) 2014 - Foster (A), Phillips (A), Stoltenberg (B), Gifford (A), Rose (A) 2013 - Banderas (A), LaCouture (A), Minter (A), Bazata (D), Sayles (A) 2012 - Bender (A), Ott (D), Cotton (A), Rahmings (C), Grigsby (A) 2011 - Reeves (B), Sterup (C), Davie (B), Fisher (A), Lampkin (A) 2010 - Rodriguez (B), Evans (B), Dietz (A), Cotton (A), Marsh (A) 2009 - Lechner (A), Sellers (B), Zimmerer (B), Pensick (A), Davis (A) So in the last 10 classes, only 11 class a players have signed with the Huskers and two of them (I believe) were walk-ons. Six from Class A went to other Power 5 schools though LaCouture shouldn't really count. Over that same timeframe, Class B has produced 9 Huskers (two walk-ons). So Class A has only produced two more scholarship Huskers over the last 10 years than Class B has. 1 Quote Link to comment
BIG ERN Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Along with the misses in the 500 mile radius, I still hate how we lost our ties to so many good NJ and TX schools. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 For the 2019 class, 6 of our 7 commits are in the radius Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 9/29/2017 at 2:04 PM, Mavric said: Been thinking about this for awhile but finally got around to really looking at it. Crazy how down Class A in Nebraska has been for several years now when it comes to producing legit Power 5 prospects. Here are the top five prospects from the state according to the 247 Composite and which class they played in high school. Players the Husker got are highlighted red. Players are crossed out if they didn't go to a Power 5 school (Marsh originally walked-on at NU then transferred). 2018 - Jurgens (B), Williams (A), Mapieu (B), Schlager (B) 2017 - Allen (B), Walker (A), Bradley (A), Strom (A), Kitrell (B) 2016 - Fant (A), Bubak (C), Stille (B), Manchigiah (A), Cromer (B) 2015 - Neal (A), Decker (A), Holtorf (B), Johnson (A), Strong (A) 2014 - Foster (A), Phillips (A), Stoltenberg (B), Gifford (A), Rose (A) 2013 - Banderas (A), LaCouture (A), Minter (A), Bazata (D), Sayles (A) 2012 - Bender (A), Ott (D), Cotton (A), Rahmings (C), Grigsby (A) 2011 - Reeves (B), Sterup (C), Davie (B), Fisher (A), Lampkin (A) 2010 - Rodriguez (B), Evans (B), Dietz (A), Cotton (A), Marsh (A) 2009 - Lechner (A), Sellers (B), Zimmerer (B), Pensick (A), Davis (A) So in the last 10 classes, only 11 class a players have signed with the Huskers and two of them (I believe) were walk-ons. Six from Class A went to other Power 5 schools though LaCouture shouldn't really count. Over that same timeframe, Class B has produced 9 Huskers (two walk-ons). So Class A has only produced two more scholarship Huskers over the last 10 years than Class B has. There are more teams in class B. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: There are more teams in class B. There are more kids in Class A 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 Travis Fisher says "we have to make St. Louis our new Miami" meaning that is the closest city (as Miami was for them at UCF) with a bunch of talent that they have to be able to go into and get guys. 2 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, HuskermanMike said: Yes, this is excellent news! Outside of Held, does Walters have some connections to this state from his days at Colorado? I ask this because we seem to have some great connections in Oklahoma lately. None that have been mentioned that I've seen. I think we just have a staff that actually *means* it when they say they're going to recruit the 500-mile radius. 1 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Mavric said: I think we just have a staff that actually *means* it when they say they're going to recruit the 500-mile radius. I think the other staff “meant” they were going to recruit the 500 miles 2015: 8 of 21 were from that radius. Although I believe Anderson and Lee committed to Pelini originally. 2016: 10 of 21 2017: 5 of 18 2018: 4 of 22. All committed to Riley before being fired. Riley also got 2 for 2019. That amounts to be about 1 out of 3 if you include Lee and Anderson. Which isn’t bad. Quote Link to comment
Huskers93-97 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 7 hours ago, StPaulHusker said: I think the other staff “meant” they were going to recruit the 500 miles 2015: 8 of 21 were from that radius. Although I believe Anderson and Lee committed to Pelini originally. 2016: 10 of 21 2017: 5 of 18 2018: 4 of 22. All committed to Riley before being fired. Riley also got 2 for 2019. That amounts to be about 1 out of 3 if you include Lee and Anderson. Which isn’t bad. I personally think the 500 mile radius is over obsessed about. Offer the best talent you want, focus on the ones you get a genuine feeling you have a shot of getting, then go get them. That will lead to the best possible classes. We have inroads in Florida with this staff. So that should be priority in my mind. Each staff will have coaches with connections in on s in different areas, focus on strengths and don’t try to force areas that make no sense cause you will come up short. I do think west coast kids like the west coast whether you have inroads or not- so selective recruiting out there 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 10 hours ago, StPaulHusker said: I think the other staff “meant” they were going to recruit the 500 miles 2015: 8 of 21 were from that radius. Although I believe Anderson and Lee committed to Pelini originally. Lee, Anderson, Davis, Davis, Gaylord, Neal and Decker were all committed to Pelini. Riley got 11 commits after he was hired and only Barnett was a 500 mile radius guy who was a late grab after everyone else backed off of him - and we're seeing why now. 2016: 10 of 21 Raridon and Brokop were committed to Pelini. Engelhaupt was a day-before-signing-day panic because they struck out elsewhere. So 7 of the 18 guys they actually recruited. 2017: 5 of 18 2018: 4 of 22. All committed to Riley before being fired. Riley also got 2 for 2019. That amounts to be about 1 out of 3 if you include Lee and Anderson. Which isn’t bad. So 19 out of the 71 guys they actually recruited ... rougly 25%. Other than the 2016 class it was 12 out of 53. 2 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Mavric said: I don’t think it negates the fact that they meant to recruit the radius. Quote Link to comment
swmohusker Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, StPaulHusker said: I don’t think it negates the fact that they meant to recruit the radius. I think it shows bo made an effort and MR did not put forth so much effort. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 On 7/7/2018 at 4:26 PM, swmohusker said: I think it shows bo made an effort and MR did not put forth so much effort. So I did some digging. And this could and probably should get moved elsewhere but I looked at offers and commits to 500 mile radius states from 2008 up to 2019 so far. I didn't look into exact dates of when a prospect committed and to what coach. This was specifically a "Nebraska" recruiting effort. 500 mile radius states I included were: Nebraska, Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa, Illinois, Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, and Wisconsin 2008: 168 total offers. 34 to radius=20%. 11 radius commits=32% success 2009: 109 total offers. 16 to radius=15%. 4 radius commits=25% success 2010: 82 total offers. 21 to radius=26%. 11 radius commits=52% success 2011: 96 total offers. 13 to radius=14%. 6 radius commits=46% success 2012: 126 total offers. 16 to radius=13%. 5 radius commits=33% success 2013: 224 total offers. 30 to radius=13%. 6 radius commits=20% success 2014: 305 total offers. 52 to radius=17%. 9 radius commits=17% success 2015: 250 total offers. 26 to radius=10%. 8 radius commits=31% success 2016: 279 total offers. 36 to radius=13%. 10 radius commits=27% success 2017: 280 total offers. 31 to radius=11%. 6 radius commits=19% success 2018: 279 total offers. 32 to radius=11%. 5 radius commits=16% success 2019: 378 total offers. 42 to radius=11%. 7 radius commits=17% success. I took this info from 247. 2008 and 2009 are a little weird in that they seem to account for walk ons in the "Commits" page. But either way, it appears Bo started off strong in the offers to radius players and was pretty successful. Starting in 2012 you see a shift away from it that has continued through 2019 so far. So the last 2 and the current coach (so far) are all about the same with regards to their recruiting attention to radius states and players. Take it fwiw. 1 Quote Link to comment
Huskers93-97 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: So I did some digging. And this could and probably should get moved elsewhere but I looked at offers and commits to 500 mile radius states from 2008 up to 2019 so far. I didn't look into exact dates of when a prospect committed and to what coach. This was specifically a "Nebraska" recruiting effort. 500 mile radius states I included were: Nebraska, Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa, Illinois, Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, and Wisconsin 2008: 168 total offers. 34 to radius=20%. 11 radius commits=32% success 2009: 109 total offers. 16 to radius=15%. 4 radius commits=25% success 2010: 82 total offers. 21 to radius=26%. 11 radius commits=52% success 2011: 96 total offers. 13 to radius=14%. 6 radius commits=46% success 2012: 126 total offers. 16 to radius=13%. 5 radius commits=33% success 2013: 224 total offers. 30 to radius=13%. 6 radius commits=20% success 2014: 305 total offers. 52 to radius=17%. 9 radius commits=17% success 2015: 250 total offers. 26 to radius=10%. 8 radius commits=31% success 2016: 279 total offers. 36 to radius=13%. 10 radius commits=27% success 2017: 280 total offers. 31 to radius=11%. 6 radius commits=19% success 2018: 279 total offers. 32 to radius=11%. 5 radius commits=16% success 2019: 378 total offers. 42 to radius=11%. 7 radius commits=17% success. I took this info from 247. 2008 and 2009 are a little weird in that they seem to account for walk ons in the "Commits" page. But either way, it appears Bo started off strong in the offers to radius players and was pretty successful. Starting in 2012 you see a shift away from it that has continued through 2019 so far. So the last 2 and the current coach (so far) are all about the same with regards to their recruiting attention to radius states and players. Take it fwiw. I think you offer kids who fit your system and you have a real shot to land them whether they are in 500 mile radius or not. If you can have a real shot at landing better talent and it is 600 miles away then I would rather get that kid than offering someone who is less talented or doesnt fit your system as well just because they are within 500 miles. Kinda silly when you really think about it. Make sure you bring home the top talent around for sure- but take the best talent you can get. Quote Link to comment
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