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I think they're talking about this because the "one and done" guys have really hurt college hoops.

If you think Kentucky would get onboard with this... well, I have a bridge for sale.

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Shoot..I'm all for it. As long as we bring back leather helmets and the swinging gate. NOT!!!

 

It did give me a reason to reflect fondly on the day of the Freshman team playing UNO, Morningside and the service acadamies. 105 schollies along with about 50 walkons....that was sweet for Nebraska. But, that was then, this is now.

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Coming up with a bad rule to fix problems caused by another bad rule sounds exactly like something the NCAA would do. And that’s why it’s so disturbing to see the Pac-12, Big Ten, and ACC lobbying to make freshmen ineligible to play college football and basketball for the first time since 1972.

Item seven on a 10-point list of NCAA reform ideas the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors sent to the other Power Five conferences in May 2014 reads as follows:

7. Address the "one and done" phenomenon in men's basketball. If the National Basketball Association and its Players Association are unable to agree on raising the age limit for players, consider restoring the freshman ineligibility rule in men's basketball.

Indeed, there’s a strong case to be made that the revolving door of players spending just one or two years in college erodes the quality of the college game. It’s more difficult for teams to gel over the course of several seasons when there’s so much turnover on the roster. It’s hard for fans to get emotionally invested in players who are just using their alma mater as a stepping stone to a big payday. And proud university presidents doubtless see teenagers using their schools as mere launching pads to the NBA as an affront to higher education.

But the often-overlooked fact is that the one-and-done phenomenon doesn’t exist because of anything the players are doing. It wasn’t started by slimy coaches looking to game the system. The one-and-done phenomenon was born from the NBA’s 2005 collective bargaining agreement, which created the requirement that NBA draft entrants must be both 19 years old during the calendar year of the draft and at least one year removed from high school.

 

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Didn't read through all the over reaction posts, so sorry if someone already posted this. There is no way it would be just a conference thing, they are seeing if the schools think its a good idea to get all the conferences to do; in no way would the B1G decide not to play freshman when all their competition is, come on guys, think sh#t through. You really think Delaney is going to come up with an idea that would put everyone of his schools at a disadvantage to every other NCAA P5 school? No shape, no how, no way. It will be everyone does it or no one does it scenario.

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Didn't read through all the over reaction posts, so sorry if someone already posted this. There is no way it would be just a conference thing, they are seeing if the schools think its a good idea to get all the conferences to do; in no way would the B1G decide not to play freshman when all their competition is, come on guys, think sh#t through. You really think Delaney is going to come up with an idea that would put everyone of his schools at a disadvantage to every other NCAA P5 school? No shape, no how, no way. It will be everyone does it or no one does it scenario.

 

Get out of here and take your reason and critical thinking with you.

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Lots of fail in this thread.

 

BIG is after 2 things (and this freshman question is definitely not the one and only approach they want or will consider).

 

1. Pushing the pro athlete employee/student balance in the direction of student.

 

2. Improve the BIG's relative competitive situation (this would since the BIG get's fewer ready to start day 1 players than do SEC, FSU, USC and whoever wins the annual Texas recruiting battle).

 

Lot's of moving parts going forward. Expect many discussions and some changes. And then some more. The P5 autonomy and the giant increases in those school's TV revenues. Players unions. Title IX. Concussions. Lawyers and more lawyers. There will be much posturing, fighting, cooperating, changing.

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saw this on another board

 

The SEC is actually proposing something similar -- due to the complexities of balancing college academic work and playing a sport in a student-athlete's freshman year, the SEC is proposing that freshmen will not be allowed to register for or attend classes during their first year on campus.

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Big Ten faculty, administrators and student-athlete representatives met this week to further discuss the importance of keeping education central to the mission of intercollegiate athletics.

 

The conference unanimously decided it would be important at this juncture to reach out to a diverse group of thought leaders in an effort to obtain as much feedback as possible to a number of important areas impacting academics on campus. Those areas include the potential establishment of a year of readiness for all sports—or select sports; student-athlete time demands; playing seasons; initial eligibility requirements; and other areas impacting academics on college campuses across the country. Knowing that matters of such impact would never be adopted unilaterally by a single conference or institution, it is important to the conference to devise a strategy and timeline that would encourage, and allow the conference to obtain, input from all.

 

“While we are comfortable generating multiple ideas about an ‘education first’ approach to intercollegiate athletics in the twenty-first century, we won’t go it alone on any of these matters,” said Big Ten Commissioner James E. Delany. “We look forward to working with our colleagues in the NCAA Division I governance structure, and to exploring a broad exchange of ideas from both inside and outside of intercollegiate athletics.”

 

It is the Big Ten Conference’s hope that reaching out to others in advance of the 2016 NCAA National Convention will allow those in attendance at the convention to engage in a more meaningful discussion informed by both the student-athlete welfare issues scheduled to be addressed at the convention, and the input provided by thought leaders around the country regarding issues more directly impacting academics.

 

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I don't see the point of the whole thing ..... for the one and done in hoops now it will be two and done and the players will not be game situations during year one as freshmen as they will be a practice team I guess, waiting for year two than if they are great they can play one year and be done. I also think that it will hurt competition because now a whole class of players will not be a competitive threat. It may also mean that kids have to wait an extra year to find out that they really are only bench warmers so they will not have as much eligibility if they want to go to another school.

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Unless the NBA changes its rules, the guys who think they're good enough to play professionally will no longer even go to college. They'll go overseas for a year then enter the draft.

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Unless the NBA changes its rules, the guys who think they're good enough to play professionally will no longer even go to college. They'll go overseas for a year then enter the draft.

100% agree. I believe they could also go to the D league out of high school if they want to be paid and stay in the states.

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It's a great idea if it's an NCAA thing.. If not the B1G will fall way behind as a conference.. I also think if this is for the best interest of the student it needs to be for all athletes not just the big ticket teams..

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I would be for it if the brought back the Freshman/JV program. Let them play Friday nights against other FR/JV teams or against D2 or D3 Schools. More games & more experience for underclassman/walk-ons or guys just buried on the depth chart. You could limit their practice time a little more & give them more push towards their school work.

 

It might hurt with some of the top guys who want to play now, but you will make up for it with the guys who know they need a year to develop & with walk-ons who want to prove they desirve a scholarship.

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Freshman ineligibility will not work because the NBA says they only have to be out of HS 1 year. If a player is that good, they will just bide their time on the practice squad and then declare. All the while the university paid for a year of school and got no return on it from the player.

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