funhusker Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 The last staff had video of players carrying each other on their backs as part of conditioning. Incredibly stupid. You have one of the best strength and conditioning centers in the world, and you work out like a 3rd world team with no access to any facilities. That was like a one week military-esque team-building thing. It wasn't part of their regular training. I know right!? That's why I can't wait until Obama hits the road. Here we Americans have the most expensive, high-tech military in the world and we train our Combat Soldiers like the South Sudanese Coast Gaurd with no access to the ocean... Quote Link to comment
grandpasknee Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Sounds like the actual games will be the vacation part of the week. Can't remember the exact player, but it was from the late Osborne era. He said that practices were so hard and downright vicious, the actual games were like a break. That always stuck with me the last few years when everybody seemed to be "tapping out' after two or three plays. 2 Quote Link to comment
The King Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Great hire.. Hopefully translates to the football field. Straight from the horses mouth.. s & c is picking up, finally Quote Link to comment
NebraskaShellback Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Sounds like the actual games will be the vacation part of the week. Can't remember the exact player, but it was from the late Osborne era. He said that practices were so hard and downright vicious, the actual games were like a break. That always stuck with me the last few years when everybody seemed to be "tapping out' after two or three plays. He was a O linemen, 1997. I am stump at the moment of his name but he said it was not that we had better athletes, conditioning was the key. I do remember that. Quote Link to comment
Bowfin Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Not to be a downer, but I'm always a bit leery of "this is the hardest we've ever worked in the offseason" reports though. It seems every year the workouts are "harder than ever" and the players are "in the best shape of their lives". Yeah, but players puking is kind of the gold standard for a really intense work out. Quote Link to comment
deedsker Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Not to be a downer, but I'm always a bit leery of "this is the hardest we've ever worked in the offseason" reports though. It seems every year the workouts are "harder than ever" and the players are "in the best shape of their lives". Yeah, but players puking is kind of the gold standard for a really intense work out. Maybe they are just really out of shape? Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Not to be a downer, but I'm always a bit leery of "this is the hardest we've ever worked in the offseason" reports though. It seems every year the workouts are "harder than ever" and the players are "in the best shape of their lives".Maybe I haven't been playing close enough attention, but I honestly don't remember much of this in recent years. I remember quite a bit of it before the 2009 season, and it showed on the field. I think there was probably a bit of complacency since then, and it showed on the field. Quote Link to comment
Stumpy1 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Dobsen is a smart man when it comes to S&C but is a horrible coach of it. Liked to be more of a CEO type instead of a hands-on type. Philipp is the exact opposite and would rather be hands-on and teach the kids proper movements and why they do them instead of saying do it and sit back and watch. Quote Link to comment
onlyHskrfaninIL Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Dobsen is a smart man when it comes to S&C but is a horrible coach of it. Liked to be more of a CEO type instead of a hands-on type. Philipp is the exact opposite and would rather be hands-on and teach the kids proper movements and why they do them instead of saying do it and sit back and watch. Its pretty apparent at this point that Bo hired his buddies rather than people really qualified so its not shocking that Dobson wasn't all that great 1 Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I won't question Dobson's qualifications. I think he was plenty qualified, but something just seemed amiss with S&C the last few years. The stories of him being "hands-off" and relying on an honor system probably explain it. The honor system thing is almost unbelievable, but so was the idea of player meetings not starting on time. 3 Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 SUH's money put to good use! Quote Link to comment
Lux Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 A player mentioned Dobson was more powerlifting and strength while Philip is more high rep cardio bs. Which if true IMO IMO would be the worst case scenario decision. Running the guys this hard I see no value in it especially this early. IMO they need to be eating like hogs and lifting as heavy as possible. Squats bench cleans and presses. Conditioning can come closer to fall. Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 A player mentioned Dobson was more powerlifting and strength while Philip is more high rep cardio bs. Which if true IMO IMO would be the worst case scenario decision. Running the guys this hard I see no value in it especially this early. IMO they need to be eating like hogs and lifting as heavy as possible. Squats bench cleans and presses. Conditioning can come closer to fall. Okay, well it's obvious whatever Dobson was doing, was NOT working. Let's give the new guy a shot. Sounds like the players are loving it, so I would definitely question your sources. Curious if YOU added the BS line, or if that was the players words. The key is getting bigger and stronger, there are LOTS of ways to do that. From what I read, it wasn't "running" that they were doing. According to other posters or sources, Dobson wasn't even making sure guys were doing their workouts, so I'll take my chances with Phillip. Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 A player mentioned Dobson was more powerlifting and strength while Philip is more high rep cardio bs. Which if true IMO IMO would be the worst case scenario decision. Running the guys this hard I see no value in it especially this early. IMO they need to be eating like hogs and lifting as heavy as possible. Squats bench cleans and presses. Conditioning can come closer to fall. Yeah I'm sure since Boyd Epply is overseeing things that can't be true. I know you are just passing info along but a coach that has been at USC for S&C and also a college player and also still carries around some mass on him isn't doing Pilates and showing Richard Simmons exercise techniques Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 A player mentioned Dobson was more powerlifting and strength while Philip is more high rep cardio bs. Which if true IMO IMO would be the worst case scenario decision. Running the guys this hard I see no value in it especially this early. IMO they need to be eating like hogs and lifting as heavy as possible. Squats bench cleans and presses. Conditioning can come closer to fall. Yeah I'm sure since Boyd Epply is overseeing things that can't be true. I know you are just passing info along but a coach that has been at USC for S&C and also a college player and also still carries around some mass on him isn't doing Pilates and showing Richard Simmons exercise techniques I about died right there. I'm sure those comments were from Mauro Bondi. Quote Link to comment
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