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I'll touch on the "tuition free college".

 

I firmly believe college should be cheaper than it is now. Kids are getting out of school with huge amounts of debt putting them behind the 8 ball right off the start. HOWEVER, I am a firm believer that kids should have some skin in the game when in college.

Not everyone is college material and not everyone should be in college. Free college? We already have too many kids in college that don't take it serious and that takes away from the kids that DO take it serious. For the first 2.5 years I was one of those that didn't take it serious and I shouldn't have been there taking up space and money. So, now with free tuition, there will be even more idiots just like I was cruising through a few years of partying and being a waste of oxygen. Quite frankly, I should have gone to the military for a few years like I had originally planned and gotten my ass kicked, then gone to college.

 

What changed with me? I was out of money and had to go get a job to start paying for it myself. I started working full time while going to school full time. I had to take some summer school to retake some classes I had failed or received a D in. My first two years had a GPA of 2.0. The rest of my time in college was over 3.5.

 

Now, I am also for help for people who don't have a lot of money to pay for it like grants and low interest student loans. I believe the grants at least need to be performance based. If the government is going to give you a grant to got to college, you need to maintain a certain GPA...etc.

 

College should not be an, everyone gets a participation ribbon program, like high school has become. Our goal in the US is to educate everyone. That is far different than many countries we are compared to. I agree with this goal in HS. Once out of HS, nothing is guaranteed. The best and brightest (no matter income level) should have every opportunity to go to 4 year college. Some are better fit at a tech school or a two year degree in something. For others, the military is better and some are best fit for just entering the work force.

 

If you offer free college, a lot more kids will think...HEY....I'm going to go party in Lincoln for 4 years.

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I know the thought of single-payer health care and tuition-free college scare the bejeezus out of a lot of Americans, but Bernie's plan is definitely intriguing...

 

http://www.thenation.com/article/what-the-wall-street-journal-gets-totally-wrong-about-bernie-sanders-agenda/

 

And the costs are... Nothing is ever free and the USA is burdened by its debt already - unsustainable.

 

Bigger minds may look at different ways of 'doing college'. More emphasis on digital university and less on brick and mortar. More emphasis on vo-tech and other non-liberal arts type education - specific targeting certain types of jobs or as BRB says - 2 year degrees. Traditional college education has gotten very expensive in part because of the lack of competition from other methods of education. We now have digital classrooms, libraries, e textbooks, etc. Let's leverage this cost advantage to educate more at less cost - and I say this as a brick and mortar adjunct professor.

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If Trump continues to dominate and he becomes the eventual GOP nominee, then Biden will be the Democrat's nominee. He is the only DNC candidate who can beat Trump in a head-to-head matchup.

 

It's either Jeb vs Clinton, or it is Trump vs Biden.

 

Neither Jeb or Trump will get the nomination. Trump will fade, and Jeb just doesn't have the "it" factor that his brother had.

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Well, it's starting as re: The Bern as I expected it would: the Red baiting and antisemitism. Starting to trickle into the newspapers and MSNews a bit:

 

 

 

NPR host Diane Rehm confronted Sanders with the charge that he was a dual citizen of the United States and Israel, a conspiracy theory rooted in a baseless online rumor and has its roots in the old anti-Semitic canard that Jewish politicians can’t be loyal to non-Jewish countries. http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/bernie-sanders-ann-coulter-anti-semitism/

 

 

Then there’s the recent accusation that Sanders, while a socialist who advocates for higher taxes on the wealthy and more protections for workers and the environment, simply doesn’t address racism and inequality. In fact, Sanders has a long history of being vocal on civil rights and spoke recently about the injustice of the American prison system, something that acutely affects people of color. And since economic inequality is so deeply tied to racial inequality, it’s nearly impossible to dismiss Sanders’s discussion of the former as having no bearing on the latter. Once again, this sounds like the tired old myth, put forth in the circles of places like Nation of Islam, that somehow seemingly progressive Jews are wolves in sheep’s clothing trying to hoodwink African-Americans into trusting them.

And how could anyone forget how the right-wing National Review went to great lengths to denounce Sanders as a “national socialist”? Denouncing his politics simply wasn’t enough. Its editors had to concoct a mythology in order to connect him with National Socialism, the ideology of Nazi Germany, rubbing his face in the fact that members of his family were killed during the Holocaust.

No one in the mainstream has come right out and said that Sanders’s Jewishness makes him suspicious, but his treatment in the media and by critics on the left and right should be closely monitored.


http://forward.com/opinion/317949/is-bernie-sanders-getting-anti-semitic-treatment/

 

Perhaps most noteworthy, Sanders supported “the socialist Sandinista government in Nicaragua” at the same time it was fighting “a proxy war” with America during the Reagan years.

 

In 1985, he became the highest-ranking American official to visit Nicaragua at the time, and met with President Daniel Ortega. In his book, he called the trip “profoundly emotional” and praised Ortega. Burlington [where Sanders was mayor] and Managua, Nicaragua’s capital, became sister cities.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/28/bernie-sanders-supported-socialist-sandinistas-honeymooned-in-ussr/

 

Even the Democratic corporatist status quo doesn't like The Bern:

 

 

 

The Democratic power brokers proved they are in Wall Street's back pocket today, when Clinton campaign operative, Senator Claire McCaskill, began red-baiting presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, urging media to call him "a socialist" and calling Sander's ideas extreme. Sander's ideas of expanding Social Security and Healthcare and increasing the minimum wage, are ALL things the American people want in polls. Sounds like the pro-Wall Street Clinton operatives are the extreme ones. http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/tell-democrats-to-stop

 

(When the Prez of the DNC has the surname, "Wasserman--Schultz", and has openly declared Hillary, "will be the nominee", it hardly speaks of "democracy" within the Democratic elites. More like "Wall St liberals".)

 

Anyway, expect More of this from the Reich Wing as The Bern continues to gain steam. He is the guy they most fear,. you know, cuz "socialist", man of The People. Fascists hate socialists more than anything. So, expect the Reich Wing to get even uglier than they already are. They've already trashed Latino immigrants, Muslims, women, inner city Blacks, LBGTs, the disabled and otherwise "useless eaters", any type of social safely net, public schools, unions--really, anything that doesn't have to do with the profiteering and war mongering of the white, male, corporate/investor class. Also, conspicuously, the only other thing they don't seem to have a problem with is the radical, right wing Neo Nazi terrorists within the USA--probably since they and their buddies fund most of those groups. Ironically, the Reich Wing has to delicately straddle a fine line between antisemitism re: Bernie the socialist and pro Israeli sentiments, as they are deep into the pockets of AIPAC and such. Hey, they'll take $ from anybody, right?

 

But, again, expect Red "scare" tactics and anti Semitic attacks against The Bern to escalate as the weeks and months proceed.

 

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And of course, we all know that social democracy is not just unpopular in the United States, it is un-American.

 

Well, think again. Social democracy is 100 percent American. We may be latecomers to recognizing a universal right to health care (indeed, we are not quite there yet). But we were first in creating a universal right to public education, in endowing ourselves with ownership of national parks, and, for that matter, in conferring voting rights on males without property and abolishing religious tests for holding national office.

But there’s even more to the story. It was the American Revolution’s patriot and pamphleteer, Thomas Paine — a hero today to folks left and right, including tea partiers — who launched the social-democratic tradition in the 1790s. In his pamphlets, Rights of Man and Agrarian Justice, Paine outlined plans for combating poverty that would become what we today call Social Security.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/07/03/social-democracy-100-american

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Lord please help us if that ever would happen. Of course I am not sure if he could be much worse than Obama has been...both like to spend more in big government programs and rack up the debt without any plan to pay for those programs.

 

He can't rack up much more debt than any of the previous admins.

 

Most or all of his proposals appear to be various forms of taxation on corporations, Wall St(Tobin or "Robin Hood Tax"), the upper income bracket, small estate tax on multimillionaires and up, and eliminating the current social security pay roll tax cap of $250K(thus expanding social security, disability). "Taxing the rich", in other words. It also appears he'd reduce the Pentagon budget somewhat to pay for programs. Gov't borrowing doesn't seem to be his inclination as far as I can tell.

 

 

 

The Robin Hood tax comes from a term coined by economist Hunter Logan in 1998 and commonly refers to a package of financial transaction taxes (FTT), proposed by a campaigning group of civil society NGOs. Campaigners have suggested the tax could be implemented globally, regionally or unilaterally by individual nations. Conceptually similar to the Tobin tax, it would affect a wider range of asset classes including the purchase and sale of stocks, bonds, commodities, unit trusts, mutual funds, and derivatives such as futures and options. The Tobin tax was proposed for foreign currency exchange only.
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