Dirty play and Officiating

[WindowCoug]

 

 

 

 

 

There is a very good book out there about college football called "the system" there is a chafter dedicated to BYU (actually a couple) but one is about a high profile LB recruit who had offers from BYU and Nebraska among others. Regardless this kid got in trouble in high school on multiple occasions and was arrested a couple of times as well. Mendenhall kept his offer because he believed he needed the faith and help there. I'm sure it helped the kid had huge talent as well (eyeroll) if I can find my copy of it I will drop his name and some quotes from the book

His name is Kyle Van Noy. He was a 5 star recruit and plays for the Detroit Lions. He actually was kicked off the team for the whole year before he was allowed to play. He had scholly offers to about 20 p-5 schools that he could have chosen to go to instead and not have had to serve the 1 year suspension (Underage drinking was the violation by the way). He went on to be a very upstanding guy and probably did more good in the community than any other BYU player in a long time. He has a lot of foundations he runs here and although he lives in Detroit is very involved in the community in Provo. This is a terrible example. I urge you guys to read that book its awesome.

 

I get it we have had some terrible incidents lately. The punch was completely ridiculous and he should have been suspended for it. This story big red is referring to is nothing but a very uplifting story and you are completely off about punishment and everything else involved with it.

 

We have a bit of an image problem right now that I hope gets turned around. I feel bad about the TE incident. I don't think it was intentional. I think he didn't know it he had the ball or not. Should have been flagged but I don't think it was intentional. Other than that I think the game was pretty well fought and there is some major grasping at straws on this topic. Hope you guys are doing well in Lincoln. We as a fanbase really believe you guys for the most part are some of the classiest fans we've met. We have a ways to go in that dept and I will be cheering for you anytime we see them on TV.

 

There is definately some denial going on within the BYU fanbase if they think there is nothing wrong with what is happening with your team. Incidents in 3 straight games is more than grasping at straws. Ask what you would think if those plays were reversed and it was happening to your guys instead.

 

The fight, the late hit, and the nut punch were all bad. They need to be fixed. Everything else in this thread I have seen is garbage, but you guys in this thread seem to enjoy working yourselves into a lather.

 

Really,most of the stuff in this thread is pure garbage and lots of it should make you uncomfortable, or flat out embarrassed. Lots of stuff in this thread is because the posters don't know about football. There are lots of plain old lies and wild speculation presented as fact in here as well.

 

(For example the "gator roll". Watch some videos about tackling lol. You think a player without momentum is supposed to just hold on? lol. BYU is racist, sure..... it's a team of all white guys from Mississippi burning. "Dirty low tackling.... again, lol at how dumb that is. The "dirty" injury of your punter- people discredited that, yet people kept posting it as fact anyway. BYU did not suspend anyone important. Bronco won't punish his players. And on, and on, and on. Sweet echo chamber you are building here though.)

 

 

Mark Stoddard, is that you? Did you shoot that snot rocket on that Utah football in the store?

 

So, since we don't watch as much football as you do, educate us:

 

Is this football? https://vine.co/v/OXPd6nUj2It

 

Is this football? https://vine.co/v/OXtT35F2IFA

 

Is this football? (Watch until after the hit, the small clip on Reddit doesn't do it justice) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoOU5N2PCoM?t=32m44s

 

Is this football? https://vine.co/v/eFgPwr2tv5B

 

Then you have the blatant nut punch that everybody saw (which is apparently enough punishment).

 

 

Those all occurred in the last 3 games. Well the "Bronco won't punish his players" thing is sort of true and it seems he's comfortable toeing the line as much as possible to make sure BYU is competitive in all their games. Otherwise he would've suspended your center for the opening game as well as another player that wound up seeing playing time. No way could he not suspend Kai Nacua because then everyone would think he's an idiot, even your own fans, but if it's marginal, ehhh the exposure is punishment enough, everyone knows he made a mistake, yada yada bullsh#t yada.

 

If justice exists, BYU won't win another game this year. They've gotten lucky enough winning their first two.

 

Is this football? https://vine.co/v/eTEpM2WQYid You are correct there is alot of embarassing and uncomfortable stuff in this thread. I've seen multiple videos of it.

 

LOL. You want to apologize? Or are you going to double down?

[WindowCoug]

 

 

 

 

There is a very good book out there about college football called "the system" there is a chafter dedicated to BYU (actually a couple) but one is about a high profile LB recruit who had offers from BYU and Nebraska among others. Regardless this kid got in trouble in high school on multiple occasions and was arrested a couple of times as well. Mendenhall kept his offer because he believed he needed the faith and help there. I'm sure it helped the kid had huge talent as well (eyeroll) if I can find my copy of it I will drop his name and some quotes from the book

His name is Kyle Van Noy. He was a 5 star recruit and plays for the Detroit Lions. He actually was kicked off the team for the whole year before he was allowed to play. He had scholly offers to about 20 p-5 schools that he could have chosen to go to instead and not have had to serve the 1 year suspension (Underage drinking was the violation by the way). He went on to be a very upstanding guy and probably did more good in the community than any other BYU player in a long time. He has a lot of foundations he runs here and although he lives in Detroit is very involved in the community in Provo. This is a terrible example. I urge you guys to read that book its awesome.

 

I get it we have had some terrible incidents lately. The punch was completely ridiculous and he should have been suspended for it. This story big red is referring to is nothing but a very uplifting story and you are completely off about punishment and everything else involved with it.

 

We have a bit of an image problem right now that I hope gets turned around. I feel bad about the TE incident. I don't think it was intentional. I think he didn't know it he had the ball or not. Should have been flagged but I don't think it was intentional. Other than that I think the game was pretty well fought and there is some major grasping at straws on this topic. Hope you guys are doing well in Lincoln. We as a fanbase really believe you guys for the most part are some of the classiest fans we've met. We have a ways to go in that dept and I will be cheering for you anytime we see them on TV.

 

There is definately some denial going on within the BYU fanbase if they think there is nothing wrong with what is happening with your team. Incidents in 3 straight games is more than grasping at straws. Ask what you would think if those plays were reversed and it was happening to your guys instead.

 

The fight, the late hit, and the nut punch were all bad. They need to be fixed. Everything else in this thread I have seen is garbage, but you guys in this thread seem to enjoy working yourselves into a lather.

 

Really,most of the stuff in this thread is pure garbage and lots of it should make you uncomfortable, or flat out embarrassed. Lots of stuff in this thread is because the posters don't know about football. There are lots of plain old lies and wild speculation presented as fact in here as well.

 

(For example the "gator roll". Watch some videos about tackling lol. You think a player without momentum is supposed to just hold on? lol. BYU is racist, sure..... it's a team of all white guys from Mississippi burning. "Dirty low tackling.... again, lol at how dumb that is. The "dirty" injury of your punter- people discredited that, yet people kept posting it as fact anyway. BYU did not suspend anyone important. Bronco won't punish his players. And on, and on, and on. Sweet echo chamber you are building here though.)

 

 

Mark Stoddard, is that you? Did you shoot that snot rocket on that Utah football in the store?

 

So, since we don't watch as much football as you do, educate us:

 

Is this football? https://vine.co/v/OXPd6nUj2It

 

Is this football? https://vine.co/v/OXtT35F2IFA

 

Is this football? (Watch until after the hit, the small clip on Reddit doesn't do it justice) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoOU5N2PCoM?t=32m44s

 

Is this football? https://vine.co/v/eFgPwr2tv5B

 

Then you have the blatant nut punch that everybody saw (which is apparently enough punishment).

 

 

Those all occurred in the last 3 games. Well the "Bronco won't punish his players" thing is sort of true and it seems he's comfortable toeing the line as much as possible to make sure BYU is competitive in all their games. Otherwise he would've suspended your center for the opening game as well as another player that wound up seeing playing time. No way could he not suspend Kai Nacua because then everyone would think he's an idiot, even your own fans, but if it's marginal, ehhh the exposure is punishment enough, everyone knows he made a mistake, yada yada bullsh#t yada.

 

If justice exists, BYU won't win another game this year. They've gotten lucky enough winning their first two.

 

By the way, here is my real answer:

 

Praetor,#20 with the low hit, was injured last week, and will be suspended this week against UCLA.

 

The player in the brawl vine's above, Kai Nacua, did a ton of community service and was suspended week 1, and he was our best DB with 3 picks against Boise State.

 

Nice to see every play gets turned into a vine now. There was a flag on the play for roughing the passer. Not the worst thing in the world. It was a dumb play that extended a drive and almost lost BYU the game.

 

The nut punch wasn't good, but I'm glad he wasn't suspended for it. The play was reviewed and internal suspensions were deemed fine by that ref association that is in charge of disciplining independent teams.

[Vuren]

you actually expect a piece of crap who supports the hypocritical scum of byu to actually acknowledge that their team is scum?

[commando]

de·ni·al

(dĭ-nī′əl)

n.

An unconscious defense mechanism characterized by refusal to acknowledge painful realities, thoughts, or feelings.

[knapplc]

The nut punch wasn't good, but I'm glad he wasn't suspended for it. The play was reviewed and internal suspensions were deemed fine by that ref association that is in charge of disciplining independent teams.

That's all that needs to be said. When you can acknowledge wrong, but in the same breath advocate for clandestine "internal" punishment that is not and will not be verified, you're very clearly more interested in brushing things under the rug than fixing the problems on your team.

[WindowCoug]

 

The nut punch wasn't good, but I'm glad he wasn't suspended for it. The play was reviewed and internal suspensions were deemed fine by that ref association that is in charge of disciplining independent teams.

That's all that needs to be said. When you can acknowledge wrong, but in the same breath advocate for clandestine "internal" punishment that is not and will not be verified, you're very clearly more interested in brushing things under the rug than fixing the problems on your team.

 

 

All that I needed to see as well. You guys bite your tongue when nasty lies are said and just wait for "winning" points. When something gets called out, there is just silence when it's clearly wrong. SMH. You guys should be better than this all around. Have fun waiting for this weeks vines. Keep throwing some spaghetti at the wall in this thread. And whatever you do, when when of your fellow Husker fans posts another lie, don't correct it. It might kill the mood in here and not tell the story you are looking for.

 

ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO echo echo echo

[Savage Husker]

 

The nut punch wasn't good, but I'm glad he wasn't suspended for it. The play was reviewed and internal suspensions were deemed fine by that ref association that is in charge of disciplining independent teams.

That's all that needs to be said. When you can acknowledge wrong, but in the same breath advocate for clandestine "internal" punishment that is not and will not be verified, you're very clearly more interested in brushing things under the rug than fixing the problems on your team.

pretty sure any punch is an immediate ejection.

[commando]

the Bring Your Uppercut Cougers get to show off their tactics again this weekend against UCLA. You would think Coug would go over there and try to tell them how his team isn't going to play dirty against them. there are several threads there talking about BYU and their dirty play over there already.

[Saunders]

 

 

The nut punch wasn't good, but I'm glad he wasn't suspended for it. The play was reviewed and internal suspensions were deemed fine by that ref association that is in charge of disciplining independent teams.

That's all that needs to be said. When you can acknowledge wrong, but in the same breath advocate for clandestine "internal" punishment that is not and will not be verified, you're very clearly more interested in brushing things under the rug than fixing the problems on your team.

 

 

All that I needed to see as well. You guys bite your tongue when nasty lies are said and just wait for "winning" points. When something gets called out, there is just silence when it's clearly wrong. SMH. You guys should be better than this all around. Have fun waiting for this weeks vines. Keep throwing some spaghetti at the wall in this thread. And whatever you do, when when of your fellow Husker fans posts another lie, don't correct it. It might kill the mood in here and not tell the story you are looking for.

 

ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO echo echo echo

 

[Savage Husker]

 

 

 

The nut punch wasn't good, but I'm glad he wasn't suspended for it. The play was reviewed and internal suspensions were deemed fine by that ref association that is in charge of disciplining independent teams.

That's all that needs to be said. When you can acknowledge wrong, but in the same breath advocate for clandestine "internal" punishment that is not and will not be verified, you're very clearly more interested in brushing things under the rug than fixing the problems on your team.

All that I needed to see as well. You guys bite your tongue when nasty lies are said and just wait for "winning" points. When something gets called out, there is just silence when it's clearly wrong. SMH. You guys should be better than this all around. Have fun waiting for this weeks vines. Keep throwing some spaghetti at the wall in this thread. And whatever you do, when when of your fellow Husker fans posts another lie, don't correct it. It might kill the mood in here and not tell the story you are looking for.

 

ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO echo echo echo

cool story

[Blackshirt39]

 

 

Praetor,#20 with the low hit, was injured last week, and will be suspended this week against UCLA.

 

The player in the brawl vine's above, Kai Nacua, did a ton of community service and was suspended week 1, and he was our best DB with 3 picks against Boise State.

 

 

Yeah Praetor is out, but it sounds to me if wasn't for the injury he probably wouldn't be.

 

Also the community service bit sounds to be self serving BS.

 

 

 

"It was fun. I like to do that type of stuff, so It was good," Nacua said of the service. "I just went around the community to find anything. I had people texting me to help me find people to move and anything I could."

 

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=36525531&nid=272&fm=home_page&s_cid=toppick1

 

So he just helped friends and people he knew move and self-reported 100 hours? BYU needs to wake up and join the rest of us in reality. You guys have a really talented football team and you're wasting it with this nonsense. Also if this crap keeps up, teams will stop scheduling BYU.

[commando]

 

 

 

Praetor,#20 with the low hit, was injured last week, and will be suspended this week against UCLA.

 

The player in the brawl vine's above, Kai Nacua, did a ton of community service and was suspended week 1, and he was our best DB with 3 picks against Boise State.

 

 

Yeah Praetor is out, but it sounds to me if wasn't for the injury he probably wouldn't be.

 

Also the community service bit sounds to be self serving BS.

 

 

 

"It was fun. I like to do that type of stuff, so It was good," Nacua said of the service. "I just went around the community to find anything. I had people texting me to help me find people to move and anything I could."

 

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=36525531&nid=272&fm=home_page&s_cid=toppick1

 

So he just helped friends and people he knew move and self-reported 100 hours? BYU needs to wake up and join the rest of us in reality. You guys have a really talented football team and you're wasting it with this nonsense. Also if this crap keeps up, teams will stop scheduling BYU.

 

lol....that was his punishment? "it was fun"? wow.

 

how bout this.....BYU stops playing dirty or taking cheap shots and the rest of us will stop calling out BYU? or at least start to actually punish people for taking cheap shots?

[knapplc]

That's why it keeps happening. There's no "punishment." A guy who sucker-punched not one, but two players in a brawl was suspended one game, and did "fun" stuff with his friends.

 

Imagine the screaming to high heaven if a "yewt" (BYU Fan term for a Utah Ute) had done the stuff we're talking about here.

[Vuren]

 

 

 

The nut punch wasn't good, but I'm glad he wasn't suspended for it. The play was reviewed and internal suspensions were deemed fine by that ref association that is in charge of disciplining independent teams.

That's all that needs to be said. When you can acknowledge wrong, but in the same breath advocate for clandestine "internal" punishment that is not and will not be verified, you're very clearly more interested in brushing things under the rug than fixing the problems on your team.

All that I needed to see as well. You guys bite your tongue when nasty lies are said and just wait for "winning" points. When something gets called out, there is just silence when it's clearly wrong. SMH. You guys should be better than this all around. Have fun waiting for this weeks vines. Keep throwing some spaghetti at the wall in this thread. And whatever you do, when when of your fellow Husker fans posts another lie, don't correct it. It might kill the mood in here and not tell the story you are looking for.

 

ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO echo echo echo

cool story

 

she claims we are an echo chamber, i think she's on some heavy duty drugs, or has their head up their ass.

 

 

The nut punch wasn't good, but I'm glad he wasn't suspended for it. The play was reviewed and internal suspensions were deemed fine by that ref association that is in charge of disciplining independent teams.

That's all that needs to be said. When you can acknowledge wrong, but in the same breath advocate for clandestine "internal" punishment that is not and will not be verified, you're very clearly more interested in brushing things under the rug than fixing the problems on your team.

pretty sure any punch is an immediate ejection.

 

it's supposed to be.

[Micheal]

A punch is an automatic ejection in most football games I've played in (only jr/sr high). The BYU fans are correct that some of these plays weren't flagged, and how they weren't I have no idea.

 

I also have never heard of anyone getting community service hours by helping their friends and people they know, I have never ever heard of this anywhere. Usually if someone needs hours they are in contact with an agency who then finds a role they can play helping their organization for the amount of how ever many hours they need to complete.

 

Also one last question the BYU poster brought up in my mind, there is a ref association that is suppose to watch over independent programs?