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The Dems don't want to disarm folk, just some sane regulation. A ton of illegal guns come into the country via the black market, which is a good place to start.

 

You might want to ask our president to tighten up the borders, huh?

 

I dunno. One hears of illegal guns coming into places like Miami, Brooklyn, S Compton by the boxcar and/or truckloads. Some say the CIA has a hand in that stuff as they've always been known to be in the arms trade to help fund their nefarious activities--you know, Iran Contra type stuff--ancient history, I guess. Fast and Furious happened across the Mexican border--ATF deal, they say. Those gun show loop holes aren't a good thing either.

 

But that reminds me as per Trumpf's alleged Great Mexican Wall. Guess what, there's this thing called the Canadian border. Oh, there's also the Gulf

coast, the East Coast, the West Coast. They make these things called "boats" and these other things called "airplanes", soooo...

 

Also, I suppose a discussion as to the US's genocidal proxy wars in Central and South America would probably evade intelligent discussion--or recognition--on Huskerboard. Immigration blowback, sorry to say.

 

If we're lucky, Mein Trumpf will have a fatal fall in the shower or something and we won't have to listen to his sorry self anymore. I'd applaud it, actually.

 

Please tell me all about Panama and ESPECIALLY Nicaragua!

 

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The only C American country the USA Inc hasn't conducted a proxy war in is Costa Rica. As to Nicaragua, well, they never really recovered from the Sandinista/Contra thing--the Sandinistas being the Good guys, of course. CIA was conducting air strikes out of a base in Honduras, blah blah blah blah. Sandinistas eventually lost, blah blah blah. You can Google it.

 

Panama was a back and forth thing over the years, I forget who controls it now. I can tell you're inquiry serious, I wonder how. Muricans are either ignorant of or in denial about the ugly parts of Murican history.

 

No, my inquiry wasn't really "inquiry serious" because I already know all about this stuff. It was more in response to the "intelligent discussion" and "recognition" part of your post.

 

Oh, well, not alot of people--in general--know about the USA's foreign policies--proxy wars--in C and S America, so my apologies. The fact that said wars were/are rarely if ever reported kind of adds to the problem.

 

Chomsky is the expert on such matters, of course.

 

Back to the gun issue. Thought I saw on CNN where they said 90% or so of guns purchased for illegal activity in the USA comes from about 10 gun shops in particular.

 

Interesting stat about the guns, but, honestly, you lost at Chomsky

 

Yeah, Chomsky, a real loser. Arguably most influencial intellectual on US world geo politics of our time, lecturing over the decades to 100s of 1000s of people--millions, maybe--a slough of best selling books despite little advertising. Like I said, you're not serious. But why should you be, you're a Trumpf guy, so that explains it, you can get your geo politics like Trumpf does, by watching the TEEvee.

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The Dems don't want to disarm folk, just some sane regulation. A ton of illegal guns come into the country via the black market, which is a good place to start.

 

You might want to ask our president to tighten up the borders, huh?

 

I dunno. One hears of illegal guns coming into places like Miami, Brooklyn, S Compton by the boxcar and/or truckloads. Some say the CIA has a hand in that stuff as they've always been known to be in the arms trade to help fund their nefarious activities--you know, Iran Contra type stuff--ancient history, I guess. Fast and Furious happened across the Mexican border--ATF deal, they say. Those gun show loop holes aren't a good thing either.

 

But that reminds me as per Trumpf's alleged Great Mexican Wall. Guess what, there's this thing called the Canadian border. Oh, there's also the Gulf

coast, the East Coast, the West Coast. They make these things called "boats" and these other things called "airplanes", soooo...

 

Also, I suppose a discussion as to the US's genocidal proxy wars in Central and South America would probably evade intelligent discussion--or recognition--on Huskerboard. Immigration blowback, sorry to say.

 

If we're lucky, Mein Trumpf will have a fatal fall in the shower or something and we won't have to listen to his sorry self anymore. I'd applaud it, actually.

 

Please tell me all about Panama and ESPECIALLY Nicaragua!

 

Contra1.png

 

The only C American country the USA Inc hasn't conducted a proxy war in is Costa Rica. As to Nicaragua, well, they never really recovered from the Sandinista/Contra thing--the Sandinistas being the Good guys, of course. CIA was conducting air strikes out of a base in Honduras, blah blah blah blah. Sandinistas eventually lost, blah blah blah. You can Google it.

 

Panama was a back and forth thing over the years, I forget who controls it now. I can tell you're inquiry serious, I wonder how. Muricans are either ignorant of or in denial about the ugly parts of Murican history.

 

No, my inquiry wasn't really "inquiry serious" because I already know all about this stuff. It was more in response to the "intelligent discussion" and "recognition" part of your post.

 

Oh, well, not alot of people--in general--know about the USA's foreign policies--proxy wars--in C and S America, so my apologies. The fact that said wars were/are rarely if ever reported kind of adds to the problem.

 

Chomsky is the expert on such matters, of course.

 

Back to the gun issue. Thought I saw on CNN where they said 90% or so of guns purchased for illegal activity in the USA comes from about 10 gun shops in particular.

 

Interesting stat about the guns, but, honestly, you lost at Chomsky

 

Yeah, Chomsky, a real loser. Arguably most influencial intellectual on US world geo politics of our time, lecturing over the decades to 100s of 1000s of people--millions, maybe--a sleuth of best selling books despite little advertising. Like I said, you're not serious. You're a Trumpf guy, so that explains it. Or maybe you just like photos of his Mussolini type mug shot.

 

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You can patronize all you want and prop up the people you like as much as you want. I enjoy the discussion.

 

I am definitely serious about Trump and all moral, nationalistic leaders/candidates, though.

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The Dems don't want to disarm folk, just some sane regulation. A ton of illegal guns come into the country via the black market, which is a good place to start.

 

You might want to ask our president to tighten up the borders, huh?

 

I dunno. One hears of illegal guns coming into places like Miami, Brooklyn, S Compton by the boxcar and/or truckloads. Some say the CIA has a hand in that stuff as they've always been known to be in the arms trade to help fund their nefarious activities--you know, Iran Contra type stuff--ancient history, I guess. Fast and Furious happened across the Mexican border--ATF deal, they say. Those gun show loop holes aren't a good thing either.

 

But that reminds me as per Trumpf's alleged Great Mexican Wall. Guess what, there's this thing called the Canadian border. Oh, there's also the Gulf

coast, the East Coast, the West Coast. They make these things called "boats" and these other things called "airplanes", soooo...

 

Also, I suppose a discussion as to the US's genocidal proxy wars in Central and South America would probably evade intelligent discussion--or recognition--on Huskerboard. Immigration blowback, sorry to say.

 

If we're lucky, Mein Trumpf will have a fatal fall in the shower or something and we won't have to listen to his sorry self anymore. I'd applaud it, actually.

 

Please tell me all about Panama and ESPECIALLY Nicaragua!

 

Contra1.png

 

The only C American country the USA Inc hasn't conducted a proxy war in is Costa Rica. As to Nicaragua, well, they never really recovered from the Sandinista/Contra thing--the Sandinistas being the Good guys, of course. CIA was conducting air strikes out of a base in Honduras, blah blah blah blah. Sandinistas eventually lost, blah blah blah. You can Google it.

 

Panama was a back and forth thing over the years, I forget who controls it now. I can tell you're inquiry serious, I wonder how. Muricans are either ignorant of or in denial about the ugly parts of Murican history.

 

No, my inquiry wasn't really "inquiry serious" because I already know all about this stuff. It was more in response to the "intelligent discussion" and "recognition" part of your post.

 

Oh, well, not alot of people--in general--know about the USA's foreign policies--proxy wars--in C and S America, so my apologies. The fact that said wars were/are rarely if ever reported kind of adds to the problem.

 

Chomsky is the expert on such matters, of course.

 

Back to the gun issue. Thought I saw on CNN where they said 90% or so of guns purchased for illegal activity in the USA comes from about 10 gun shops in particular.

 

Interesting stat about the guns, but, honestly, you lost at Chomsky

 

Yeah, Chomsky, a real loser. Arguably most influencial intellectual on US world geo politics of our time, lecturing over the decades to 100s of 1000s of people--millions, maybe--a sleuth of best selling books despite little advertising. Like I said, you're not serious. You're a Trumpf guy, so that explains it. Or maybe you just like photos of his Mussolini type mug shot.

 

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You can patronize all you want and prop up the people you like as much as you want. I enjoy the discussion.

 

I am definitely serious about Trump and all moral, nationalistic leaders/candidates, though.

 

So, as to the "morality", How would you round up the 11+ mil "illegals" Gestapo style? Boxcars? Pray tell, Senor....?

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How does the US government document anyone else? Those in Customs and Immigration? Those wanting Global Entry or TSA approval? It seems as though we can have a similar policy with heads of households.

 

Also, you forgot the tilda.

Not only did I forget the "tilda", I don't even know about the "tilda", would have to be informed as such.

 

But my question was relating to Mein Trumpf's "deportation force"--emphasis on the "force", I presume. Well, it's never going to happen, but I was curious how you personally would conduct such a deportation operation beings the INS is already a highly ineffective organization. They could learn something from the Nazi Arpaio, I imagine.

 

What bothers me the most about the topic of the US and immigrants, whether they be Latino or Muslim or Viet Namese or whomevr, is there is never any acknowledgement of the US's involvement in causing the problem in the 1st place, i.e., as per US global imperialism. That's by design, of course, but still rather infuriating, nonetheless. You know, when you bomb the crap out of a country and/or steal the land to set up your corporation or big time ag business and what not, well, there's going to be an immigration/refugee problem on the other side of it. The State planners know that, of course, when they are bombimg places, though they never publicize it. Syrian refugee problem? Hey, bomb them some more....

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How does the US government document anyone else? Those in Customs and Immigration? Those wanting Global Entry or TSA approval? It seems as though we can have a similar policy with heads of households.

 

Also, you forgot the tilda.

Not only did I forget the "tilda", I don't even know about the "tilda", would have to be informed as such.

 

But my question was relating to Mein Trumpf's "deportation force"--emphasis on the "force", I presume. Well, it's never going to happen, but I was curious how you personally would conduct such a deportation operation beings the INS is already a highly ineffective organization. They could learn something from the Nazi Arpaio, I imagine.

 

Ok, maybe I'll use an "e" next time.

 

and ok, I answered

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How does the US government document anyone else? Those in Customs and Immigration? Those wanting Global Entry or TSA approval? It seems as though we can have a similar policy with heads of households.

 

Also, you forgot the tilda.

Not only did I forget the "tilda", I don't even know about the "tilda", would have to be informed as such.

 

But my question was relating to Mein Trumpf's "deportation force"--emphasis on the "force", I presume. Well, it's never going to happen, but I was curious how you personally would conduct such a deportation operation beings the INS is already a highly ineffective organization. They could learn something from the Nazi Arpaio, I imagine.

 

Ok, maybe I'll use an "e" next time.

 

and ok, I answered

 

Oh, the tilde. For a minute I thought "Tilda" was Trump's Nazi mistress or something.

 

So, you've resigned to admitting that Trumpf's alleged "deportation force" for ~11 mil people(and his Wall) is only a Big Lie(just like Hitler used to do) and will never happen, we can agree on that. what do you think of Trump's endorsement from David Duke? Bad PR if you ask me, really bad, like "loser" type stuff.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/david-duke-donald-trump-immigration/

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The most pathetic attempt to sway others to your point of view is to compare Trump to Hitler. Trump is not attempting to exterminate people. He has laid out plenty of ideas that will strengthen our economy.

 

Cornographic, If people really start coming to you saying that they agree with you, please let me know. I'll buy stock in a few tin foil companies.

Ok, Trump is probably more like Mussolini, I will give you that. Unlikely that Trumpf follows a Nordic/Teutonic pagan cult either, I presume, though one never knows for sure what he might do in private. Trumpf has been going around to all those extreme Christian right groups getting their Baptismal blessing and what not. Really, the only thing missing from Trump's rhetoric is extermination policy, but sending 1000s of Syrians back into the fray of Syria isn't too far removed from that. Central America and Columbia aren't exactly safe places to return to either. So, Trumpf has outsourced the death camps, so to speak.

 

Also, Trumpf has no real plan to strenghthen the US economy, the economy has already been sold down the river many moons ago via NAFTA, GATT, and the upcoming TPP--Trumpf can't do anything thing about those agreements, they come from folk way above his pay grade. The Waldoff Astoria in NYC is owned by the Chinese, for god's sake! Trumpf's tax plan is basic right wing garbage also--lower taxes on the rich, trickle down--blah blah blah--nothing new there.

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How does the US government document anyone else? Those in Customs and Immigration? Those wanting Global Entry or TSA approval? It seems as though we can have a similar policy with heads of households.

 

Also, you forgot the tilda.

Not only did I forget the "tilda", I don't even know about the "tilda", would have to be informed as such.

 

But my question was relating to Mein Trumpf's "deportation force"--emphasis on the "force", I presume. Well, it's never going to happen, but I was curious how you personally would conduct such a deportation operation beings the INS is already a highly ineffective organization. They could learn something from the Nazi Arpaio, I imagine.

 

Ok, maybe I'll use an "e" next time.

 

and ok, I answered

 

Oh, the tilde. For a minute I thought "Tilda" was Trump's Nazi mistress or something.

 

So, you've resigned to admitting that Trumpf's alleged "deportation force" for ~11 mil people is only a Big Lie(just like Hitler used to do) and will never happen, we can agree on that. what do you think of Trump's endorsement from David Duke? Bad PR if you ask me, really bad, like "loser" type stuff.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/david-duke-donald-trump-immigration/

 

I don't think the bullying tactics for those who may feel differently than you do are necessary, nor are the comparisons to Hitler. Do you enjoy bullying people on the Internet?

 

And endorsement and "best of the lot" are a little different.

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How does the US government document anyone else? Those in Customs and Immigration? Those wanting Global Entry or TSA approval? It seems as though we can have a similar policy with heads of households.

 

Also, you forgot the tilda.

Not only did I forget the "tilda", I don't even know about the "tilda", would have to be informed as such.

 

But my question was relating to Mein Trumpf's "deportation force"--emphasis on the "force", I presume. Well, it's never going to happen, but I was curious how you personally would conduct such a deportation operation beings the INS is already a highly ineffective organization. They could learn something from the Nazi Arpaio, I imagine.

 

Ok, maybe I'll use an "e" next time.

 

and ok, I answered

 

Oh, the tilde. For a minute I thought "Tilda" was Trump's Nazi mistress or something.

 

So, you've resigned to admitting that Trumpf's alleged "deportation force" for ~11 mil people is only a Big Lie(just like Hitler used to do) and will never happen, we can agree on that. what do you think of Trump's endorsement from David Duke? Bad PR if you ask me, really bad, like "loser" type stuff.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/david-duke-donald-trump-immigration/

 

I don't think the bullying tactics for those who may feel differently than you do are necessary, nor are the comparisons to Hitler. Do you enjoy bullying people on the Internet?

 

And endorsement and "best of the lot" are a little different.

 

Well, when you deal with the likes of the Gambinos and David Duke or Sheriff Arpaio think you're top notch, when your such a "terrific" business guy that you can't even make $ running a casino, I guess the logical next step is to run for president, right? Trumpf certainly represents the right wihg advocacy of "family values", just ask his 1st 2 wives.

 

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As to bullying, who's bullying? Seems like I'm on the receiving end of varying degrees of ad hominem attacks here merely for expressing my well thought out opinions(backed up with evidence) from those who supply little to no substantive counter arguments, of which I would gladly be willing to listen to if so supplied.

Compared to Trumpf, I'm a lamb.

 

Well, I've already delineated many of the similarities of the current US milieu and that of pre WWII Germany, including parallels between Hitler and Mein Trumpf. And, to repeat myself, I'm not the only one drawing such comparisons: one doesn't have to be a pro historian to notice.

 

But, you know, Trumpf just keeps rolling out Hitlerian style ideas, almost on a daily basis at this point. The latest: a registry for all Muslims in the US. Now, what does that remind one of? Yeah, that:

 

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Not my idea of "makin' Mur'ca great agin', but it appears there are droves who love this stuff. Some ILL students wanting all "all White" student union evidently. See, this is what happens with guys like Hilter, er, Trumpf, their rhetoric sets a context in which really bad things can happen. But this is a regular function of the system: in times of great economic upheaval, where the majority class/race feels threatened, an alternate class/race is presented as a scapecoat for all the ills of the system when, in fact, it is the fundamental machinations of the economic system that is at fault, that is, capitalism is an unstable system with substantial economic and social inequality built into it. But I digress...

 

NY Times

 

 

Donald Trump Sets Off a Furor With Call to Register Muslims in the U.S.

 

"Furor"(Fuhrer), haha, it works.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/21/us/politics/donald-trump-sets-off-a-furor-with-call-to-register-muslims-in-the-us.html?_r=0

 

See, this is how the fascists gradually constrict, close down an otherwise mostly free society: bit by bit. I posted a thread entitled, "They thought they were free". I recommend it.

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I find it funny/sad when someone results to claiming the other side is Hitler. It really is pathetic.

 

I also find it interesting in this case. Hitler, convinced a large part of the German population that all of their problems are due to a rich upper class that was dominated by Jews. These Jews were greedy and were amassing great wealth on the backs of the rest of the German population. So.....the rest of the German population needs to get rid of the Jews and take all their wealth back.

 

Hmmmmmm........I guess Bernie is the next Hitler.

 

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2. He Envied Rich Jews:

Majority of the merchants were Jewish. They hold all major profitable business entities. Jews claimed respect. They could be found doing ‘only’ white color jobs. Whether Hitler was indeed jealous of the prosperity one community i.e. Jews enjoyed in Germany or not is somewhat controversial but he used it all to his own advantage.

9. Great economical recession:

Hitler held Jews responsible for the great depression in Germany as they controlled many important merchandises and expert fields. He successfully incited the fellow Germans, making it a dramatic issue. Jews weren’t hit hard by recession as they were wealthy. To Hitler, it appeared as gross injustice that had to be revenged.

 

 

See how easy it is?

 

Over the past 20-30 years, both sides have tried claiming the other side is the next Hitler. It is a desperation move that really is pathetic and just shows they don't have the mental aptitude to argue anything else.

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I find it funny/sad when someone results to claiming the other side is Hitler. It really is pathetic.

 

I also find it interesting in this case. Hitler, convinced a large part of the German population that all of their problems are due to a rich upper class that was dominated by Jews. These Jews were greedy and were amassing great wealth on the backs of the rest of the German population. So.....the rest of the German population needs to get rid of the Jews and take all their wealth back.

 

Hmmmmmm........I guess Bernie is the next Hitler.

 

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2. He Envied Rich Jews:

Majority of the merchants were Jewish. They hold all major profitable business entities. Jews claimed respect. They could be found doing ‘only’ white color jobs. Whether Hitler was indeed jealous of the prosperity one community i.e. Jews enjoyed in Germany or not is somewhat controversial but he used it all to his own advantage.

9. Great economical recession:

Hitler held Jews responsible for the great depression in Germany as they controlled many important merchandises and expert fields. He successfully incited the fellow Germans, making it a dramatic issue. Jews weren’t hit hard by recession as they were wealthy. To Hitler, it appeared as gross injustice that had to be revenged.

 

 

See how easy it is?

 

Over the past 20-30 years, both sides have tried claiming the other side is the next Hitler. It is a desperation move that really is pathetic and just shows they don't have the mental aptitude to argue anything else.

Hitler did rob the Jews, and every country he conquered, but he in no way was giving it back to the German People(see "Bormann Capital Network").

 

Bernie is more like the real Robin Hood, or, that truely great American hero, Thomas Paine, or any populist American. His policies are reflective of FDR, though FDR was of the "1%" himself and somewhat of a reluctant social democrat. In reality, the large socialist/communist contingencies--and their unions--that existed during the early decades of the 20th century forced FDR's and the corporatists' hand with massive strikes and/or threats of strikes. So, it was The People, as is always the case, that gave America all the good democratic improvements that have occurred in this country: 8 hour day, the weekend, better working conditions, OT, pensions, social safety nets, etc. Later, The People fought for civil rights, women's rights, etc. You never see the capitalists out their protesting for more of any of these types of things. They systematically oppose those things and the war waged by the National Association of Manufacturers and the like, post FDR, has continued to this day. Bernie is a man of The People, a true democrat(demos, The People, the working class), and that is the opposite of fascism, which represents the owning/capitalist class, which is what Trumpf represents. Seriously, I think Trumpf's handlers are systematically pulling their rhetoric straight out of Hilter's handbook. I mean, now he's going full bore after the Muslims, it's disgusting.

 

The Right wing represents the business/investor/owning class, whereas the Left represents The People/working/middle class--at least they're supposed to. Hitler was on the right, the far reactionary, fascist right. He destroyed anything that had to do with social(ist) type movements in Germany at the time and did full bidding of his corporate masters. Anyway, for some to drawn comparisons to anyone of the Left and Hitler just makes zero sense, though the Democratic Party has become significantly corporatist since Slick Willy Clinton, in particular.

 

As to Germany and the Jews. Anti Semitism predated Hitler and he just fed into that whole hysteria, making them the convenient scapegoat. Also, Hitler was greatly inspired by Henry Ford's book, "The International Jew", and some say "Mein Kampf" is almost a rewrite of that book as re: anti Semitism. I would argue that most Jews were not rich and that portrayal was/is a stereotype. The reason why there were many Jewish merchants is that, economically, that was one of the main avenues available to them. Jews were often banned from trade guilds, for e.g. I would also argue that WWI is what brought on the Depression in Germany as they were defeated and owed all kinds of reparations across Europe.. Also, the primary wealth was concentrated in the hands of non Jewish, German capitalists--I.G. Farben and the like.

 

Trumpf is scapegoating minority/religious groups just as Hitler scapegoated the Jews, it's really no more complicated than that.

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Heil Bernie.

 

Throw the evil capitalists in the ovens!!!!!

 

This just in:

 

 

According to a 1990 Vanity Fairinterview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that her husband, real-estate mogul Donald Trump, now a leading Republican presidential candidate, kept a book of Hitler's speeches near his bed.

"Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed ... Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist,"... Marie Brenner wrote.http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8

 

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Imagine that...

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