Reilly out of bounds

[Moiraine]

Ya. I haven't seen a single MSU player or coach blame the loss on that play, even when asked specifically about it. Have to give them credit for that.

[Kernal]

 

It was the right call by the refs. Now I am wonder which poster is Mark Dantonio?!

I finally had a chance to track down the MSU reaction to the play and from what I've found its a complete shoulder shrug. Not a single quote I saw from them blamed the loss on that play or even bitched about the call. This goes for player and coach quotes I saw in this piece.

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/126594/blame-poor-play-not-the-officials-spartans-say-for-crushing-loss-at-nebraska

 

Overall I think that's taking a tough loss like a man

 

 

Yeah, Dantonio is classy. The announcers said it was a bad call, which was then run by all the national sports media and Michigan State media. It's not coming from MSU coaches.

[soup]

Obviously you weren't on twitter last night.

[Hayseed]

 

 

 

 

 

Because the boundaries of the field have to be enforced in some way. Take an absurd example. If the rule didn't exist. In on the field as a wideour at the snap. I take of down field but decide to run into the sideline to camouflage myself so to speAK then come back in to make a play. If you were allowed to leave and return the field without consequence that could and probably would happen.

Yeah, and I'm sure that has happened that brought on the rule, but so what if the guy started in bounds and decided to go hide? They can't see him do that? Still seems unlikely to me that a coach would expect to gain from his guy hiding on the sideline. Another change would be to say the player can step out but not be completely off the field which would make more sense.

 

So a guy pops into his team's bench area behind the coaches and some players, and he and 4 bench guys run down the sidelines and stop at various places. Defender has lost track and doesn't know which one is the guy who started the play, and if he picks the wrong guy, the real guy comes back onto the field and is wide open. Heck, the ref would be confused too. What if another player with the same number comes back onto the field? You know we have offensive and defensive guys with the same number, right? Crazy but someone would take advantage of it one way or another if they could.

 

You think that's likely to happen? I don't.

 

Make it legal to go in and out of bounds as you please and I guarantee someone will take advantage of it. It wouldn't surprise me if they had to put the rule in because it was done, but I don't know the origin of the rule.

 

Probably Tom Osborne, the man who made the fumblerooski famous by running it in the MNC game.

 

And don't forget the "Bounce Rooskie."

 

The Fumblerooskie was right in the action and happened fast......a little different than a guy running off the field and hiding.

[Hayseed]

Now they got me thinking about "Why did the elephant paint his toenails" jokes.

[Husker Psycho]

GBR... I'm glad we won the game.

 

 

With that said, the call was the worst or equal to the worst in college football this year. Heartbreaking for the players. I don't like it when we are the victim of bad officiating and I don't like it when we unfairly benefit from bad officiating. Bad officiating is a black stain on the sport. ALL officiating calls that affect the game in any way should be reviewable, including judgment calls... period. A play like this is proof of that.

 

The other thing is that I don't think MSU deserved it's ranking... they were over ranked. They just weren't that good of a team. Their run defense was OK but their pass defense was as bad or worse than ours. No way were they going to end the season undefeated or make it to the bowl playoff.

[Moiraine]

GBR... I'm glad we won the game.

 

 

With that said, the call was the worst or equal to the worst in college football this year. Heartbreaking for the players. I don't like it when we are the victim of bad officiating and I don't like it when we unfairly benefit from bad officiating. Bad officiating is a black stain on the sport. ALL officiating calls that affect the game in any way should be reviewable, including judgment calls... period. A play like this is proof of that.

 

The other thing is that I don't think MSU deserved it's ranking... they were over ranked. They just weren't that good of a team. Their run defense was OK but their pass defense was as bad or worse than ours. No way were they going to end the season undefeated or in the bowl playoff.

Wrong on both.

[Hayseed]

Why did the elephant paint his toenails red and white?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To hide on the Husker sideline.

[Kernal]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because the boundaries of the field have to be enforced in some way. Take an absurd example. If the rule didn't exist. In on the field as a wideour at the snap. I take of down field but decide to run into the sideline to camouflage myself so to speAK then come back in to make a play. If you were allowed to leave and return the field without consequence that could and probably would happen.

Yeah, and I'm sure that has happened that brought on the rule, but so what if the guy started in bounds and decided to go hide? They can't see him do that? Still seems unlikely to me that a coach would expect to gain from his guy hiding on the sideline. Another change would be to say the player can step out but not be completely off the field which would make more sense.

 

So a guy pops into his team's bench area behind the coaches and some players, and he and 4 bench guys run down the sidelines and stop at various places. Defender has lost track and doesn't know which one is the guy who started the play, and if he picks the wrong guy, the real guy comes back onto the field and is wide open. Heck, the ref would be confused too. What if another player with the same number comes back onto the field? You know we have offensive and defensive guys with the same number, right? Crazy but someone would take advantage of it one way or another if they could.

 

You think that's likely to happen? I don't.

 

Make it legal to go in and out of bounds as you please and I guarantee someone will take advantage of it. It wouldn't surprise me if they had to put the rule in because it was done, but I don't know the origin of the rule.

 

Probably Tom Osborne, the man who made the fumblerooski famous by running it in the MNC game.

 

And don't forget the "Bounce Rooskie."

 

The Fumblerooskie was right in the action and happened fast......a little different than a guy running off the field and hiding.

 

 

It may have happened fast, but it was by design.

[Sparker]

 

It was the right call by the refs. Now I am wonder which poster is Mark Dantonio?!

I finally had a chance to track down the MSU reaction to the play and from what I've found its a complete shoulder shrug. Not a single quote I saw from them blamed the loss on that play or even bitched about the call. This goes for player and coach quotes I saw in this piece. http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/126594/blame-poor-play-not-the-officials-spartans-say-for-crushing-loss-at-nebraska

Overall I think that's taking a tough loss like a man

You must not follow the official Big Ten Facebook page... Lots of anger there.

[olddominionhusker]

GBR... I'm glad we won the game.

 

 

With that said, the call was the worst or equal to the worst in college football this year. Heartbreaking for the players. I don't like it when we are the victim of bad officiating and I don't like it when we unfairly benefit from bad officiating. Bad officiating is a black stain on the sport. ALL officiating calls that affect the game in any way should be reviewable, including judgment calls... period. A play like this is proof of that.

 

The other thing is that I don't think MSU deserved it's ranking... they were over ranked. They just weren't that good of a team. Their run defense was OK but their pass defense was as bad or worse than ours. No way were they going to end the season undefeated or make it to the bowl playoff.

As someone who actually does think it was a very questionable call, it wasnt even the worst officiating error in this game let alone in CFB this year. The no call on Alonso Moore was as flagrant as pass interference gets. He was literally put in an arm bar hold and the back judge was staring at it.

 

The Rielly play is ambiguous. The Moore play was flagrant and a far worse blunder

[olddominionhusker]

 

 

It was the right call by the refs. Now I am wonder which poster is Mark Dantonio?!

I finally had a chance to track down the MSU reaction to the play and from what I've found its a complete shoulder shrug. Not a single quote I saw from them blamed the loss on that play or even bitched about the call. This goes for player and coach quotes I saw in this piece. http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/126594/blame-poor-play-not-the-officials-spartans-say-for-crushing-loss-at-nebraska

Overall I think that's taking a tough loss like a man

You must not follow the official Big Ten Facebook page... Lots of anger there.

In referring to the actual players and coaches. Fans are going to be a$$hole$ no matter what team

 

Look at our gameday thread during the game. Someone was bitching about the PI call on Gerry and screaming about the "f'ing refs". Gerry tackled the damn receiver

[stargazer]

"No eligible offensive receiver who goes out of bounds and returns in bounds during a down shall touch a legal forward pass in the field of play or end zones or while airborne until it has been touched by an opponent or official (A.R. 7-3-4-I, II and IV). [Exception: This does not apply to an originally eligible offensive player who attempts to return inbounds immediately after going out of bounds due to contact by an opponent (A.R. 7-3-4-III)]."

 

Forgive me if someone already posted the rule. There's nothing about a 'push', nothing about a DB intentionally doing it, or even being aware of it (commentators obsession with the DB's eyes always being on the ball, irrelevant)... only 'due to contact'. I believe there was contact, and there certainly wasn't enough evidence on any of that video to suggest otherwise.

[Thanks_Tom RR]

 

Michigan State alum Plaxico Burress naturally didn't like the call.

 

 

This coming from the guy who shot himself in the leg with his own pistol that he brought into a NYC nightclub.

 

I wonder if his public antics will shoot himself in the foot later...oh wait.

[olddominionhusker]

"No eligible offensive receiver who goes out of bounds and returns in bounds during a down shall touch a legal forward pass in the field of play or end zones or while airborne until it has been touched by an opponent or official (A.R. 7-3-4-I, II and IV). [Exception: This does not apply to an originally eligible offensive player who attempts to return inbounds immediately after going out of bounds due to contact by an opponent (A.R. 7-3-4-III)]."

 

Forgive me if someone already posted the rule. There's nothing about a 'push', nothing about a DB intentionally doing it, or even being aware of it (commentators obsession with the DB's eyes always being on the ball, irrelevant)... only 'due to contact'. I believe there was contact, and there certainly wasn't enough evidence on any of that video to suggest otherwise.

Its been extensively discussed. The referee can determine if the receiver went out of bound due to the contact by the defender. The referee can judge even if contact occurs that it did not cause the player to go out of bounds. Just because a receiver and a DB touch each other does not necessarily mean the receiver can leave play and come back in.