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He did get an offer.

 

Saw. My computer is weird about this, has happened every time I create a profile. Odd.

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I'm sure he is pleased for the offer but he may stick with WY to give and the Huskers the finger for making him plan C .......... I figure if he were plan B the offer would have come before today. I would love to see him join the team so I hope he is N. This may be one that is won on the quality of the education if he is ticked at the team. (Not to take a shot at Wyoming but they aren't Nebraska just as the Huskers are not Stanford.

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I'm sure he is pleased for the offer but he may stick with WY to give and the Huskers the finger for making him plan C .......... I figure if he were plan B the offer would have come before today. I would love to see him join the team so I hope he is N. This may be one that is won on the quality of the education if he is ticked at the team. (Not to take a shot at Wyoming but they aren't Nebraska just as the Huskers are not Stanford.

He would be silly to turn this down IMO. There were numerous talented TE recruits from Nebraska this year. This staff chose him likely through evaluation. Plan C or not, being butthurt is a silly reason to miss an opportunity

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I'm sure he is pleased for the offer but he may stick with WY to give and the Huskers the finger for making him plan C .......... I figure if he were plan B the offer would have come before today. I would love to see him join the team so I hope he is N. This may be one that is won on the quality of the education if he is ticked at the team. (Not to take a shot at Wyoming but they aren't Nebraska just as the Huskers are not Stanford.

 

He would be silly to turn this down IMO. There were numerous talented TE recruits from Nebraska this year. This staff chose him likely through evaluation. Plan C or not, being butthurt is a silly reason to miss an opportunity

It would be pretty admirable for him to stick with his commitment. That said, I hope he dreamed of being a Husker and signs with NU:

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I'm sure he is pleased for the offer but he may stick with WY to give and the Huskers the finger for making him plan C .......... I figure if he were plan B the offer would have come before today. I would love to see him join the team so I hope he is N. This may be one that is won on the quality of the education if he is ticked at the team. (Not to take a shot at Wyoming but they aren't Nebraska just as the Huskers are not Stanford.

He would be silly to turn this down IMO. There were numerous talented TE recruits from Nebraska this year. This staff chose him likely through evaluation. Plan C or not, being butthurt is a silly reason to miss an opportunity

It would be pretty admirable for him to stick with his commitment. That said, I hope he dreamed of being a Husker and signs with NU:

Admirable is nice, but you have to be realistic.

 

You had a good job offer we decent pay to do sports on TV in Omaha. ESPN swoops in and offers more money. It'd be easy for me.

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

 

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

 

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

 

 

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

Dont kid yourself, the reaction would have been the same regardless of if Lipscomb visited or not

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

He never had an option before now. Not really a fair comparison

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

He never had an option before now. Not really a fair comparison

 

 

Yeah.... I think the only difference is which side of the coin we're on.

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

 

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

He never had an option before now. Not really a fair comparison

Yeah.... I think the only difference is which side of the coin we're on.

True. But with Fitz he dumped us for his original choice. Dumping Wyoming for your home state Nebraska would be a bit more understandable.

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

He never had an option before now. Not really a fair comparison

Yeah.... I think the only difference is which side of the coin we're on.

True. But with Fitz he dumped us for his original choice. Dumping Wyoming for your home state Nebraska would be a bit more understandable.

 

 

Understandable for us because we're on the "right" side of this one.

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

He never had an option before now. Not really a fair comparison

 

 

Yeah.... I think the only difference is which side of the coin we're on.

 

 

Don't get me wrong, he's absolutely screwing Wyoming if he leaves and comes here. Nobody is denying that. But these scenarios aren't as comparable as you're making them out to be. I think this situation compares much more to Simmons' situation than Fitzpatricks. People are upset about Simmons but nobody blames him for taking an offer from Clemson at this point. Dez told our coaches this meant "nothing" and he was taking a free trip which led to us cancelling an OV from someone else, and went to freakin Louisville, after he has had the opportunity to OV there for the past however many months with a commitable offer. This kid got an offer yesterday. They're different situations.

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Were people furious with Anchrum? He did the same to us but went to Clemson. I don't remember people being furious, I remember people being upset but again it was understandable. And there was tons of time left in the recruiting cycle.

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Were people furious with Anchrum? He did the same to us but went to Clemson. I don't remember people being furious, I remember people being upset but again it was understandable. And there was tons of time left in the recruiting cycle.

People understood it was Clemson, not Petrino and Louisville.

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

He never had an option before now. Not really a fair comparison

Yeah.... I think the only difference is which side of the coin we're on.

True. But with Fitz he dumped us for his original choice. Dumping Wyoming for your home state Nebraska would be a bit more understandable.

 

 

Understandable for us because we're on the "right" side of this one.

 

 

I agree, it's very similar and we would be happy since we would be winning. But I don't think it's nearly as shady as the Fitz situation.

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

 

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

He never had an option before now. Not really a fair comparison

Yeah.... I think the only difference is which side of the coin we're on.

True. But with Fitz he dumped us for his original choice. Dumping Wyoming for your home state Nebraska would be a bit more understandable.

Understandable for us because we're on the "right" side of this one.

I agree, it's very similar and we would be happy since we would be winning. But I don't think it's nearly as shady as the Fitz situation.

Shadiness and deception is the problem i have.

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Were people furious with Anchrum? He did the same to us but went to Clemson. I don't remember people being furious, I remember people being upset but again it was understandable. And there was tons of time left in the recruiting cycle.

People understood it was Clemson, not Petrino and Louisville.
The Anchrum situation is different than Fitz. Desmond had committed to the staff and was actually peer recruiting for Nebraska. Things happened and he kept the staff out of the loop and wasn't truthful about this last visit to Louisville.

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Were people furious with Anchrum? He did the same to us but went to Clemson. I don't remember people being furious, I remember people being upset but again it was understandable. And there was tons of time left in the recruiting cycle.

People understood it was Clemson, not Petrino and Louisville.
The Anchrum situation is different than Fitz. Desmond had committed to the staff and was actually peer recruiting for Nebraska. Things happened and he kept the staff out of the loop and wasn't truthful about this last visit to Louisville.

 

 

Exactly. Where as this scenario he goes and says "Look, Im sorry but my home state Nebraska made a late offer and I can't turn it down". Then his Dad DOESN'T take to Twitter to slam Wyoming.

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

He never had an option before now. Not really a fair comparison

 

 

Yeah.... I think the only difference is which side of the coin we're on.

 

 

Don't get me wrong, he's absolutely screwing Wyoming if he leaves and comes here. Nobody is denying that. But these scenarios aren't as comparable as you're making them out to be. I think this situation compares much more to Simmons' situation than Fitzpatricks. People are upset about Simmons but nobody blames him for taking an offer from Clemson at this point. Dez told our coaches this meant "nothing" and he was taking a free trip which led to us cancelling an OV from someone else, and went to freakin Louisville, after he has had the opportunity to OV there for the past however many months with a commitable offer. This kid got an offer yesterday. They're different situations.

 

Agree with this take.

 

We are screwing Wyoming by stealing one of their recruits late, but Englehaupt's situation is different than Fitz.

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A part of it is also perception. If NU'd lost Fitzgerald to Bama or OSU, some's attitude about it would be different since those schools are the best-of-the-best types. Losing a recruit in the manner NU lost Fitzgerald, to a program thats traditionally perceived to be on a lower tier than NU, stings. Going from Wyoming to NU is perceived as an understandable major upgrade.

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

He never had an option before now. Not really a fair comparison

 

 

Yeah.... I think the only difference is which side of the coin we're on.

 

 

Don't get me wrong, he's absolutely screwing Wyoming if he leaves and comes here. Nobody is denying that. But these scenarios aren't as comparable as you're making them out to be. I think this situation compares much more to Simmons' situation than Fitzpatricks. People are upset about Simmons but nobody blames him for taking an offer from Clemson at this point. Dez told our coaches this meant "nothing" and he was taking a free trip which led to us cancelling an OV from someone else, and went to freakin Louisville, after he has had the opportunity to OV there for the past however many months with a commitable offer. This kid got an offer yesterday. They're different situations.

 

Agree with this take.

 

We are screwing Wyoming by stealing one of their recruits late, but Englehaupt's situation is different than Fitz.

 

 

But what about the recruit? If Engelhaupt is good enough to play on a power five team shouldn't he get the opportunity? Or is there some unwritten set of genteel rules that prevents us from offering him that opportunity so as not to offend the Wyoming coaching staff?

 

It happens.

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

He never had an option before now. Not really a fair comparison

 

 

Yeah.... I think the only difference is which side of the coin we're on.

 

 

Don't get me wrong, he's absolutely screwing Wyoming if he leaves and comes here. Nobody is denying that. But these scenarios aren't as comparable as you're making them out to be. I think this situation compares much more to Simmons' situation than Fitzpatricks. People are upset about Simmons but nobody blames him for taking an offer from Clemson at this point. Dez told our coaches this meant "nothing" and he was taking a free trip which led to us cancelling an OV from someone else, and went to freakin Louisville, after he has had the opportunity to OV there for the past however many months with a commitable offer. This kid got an offer yesterday. They're different situations.

 

Agree with this take.

 

We are screwing Wyoming by stealing one of their recruits late, but Englehaupt's situation is different than Fitz.

 

 

But what about the recruit? If Engelhaupt is good enough to play on a power five team shouldn't he get the opportunity? Or is there some unwritten set of genteel rules that prevents us from offering him that opportunity so as not to offend the Wyoming coaching staff?

 

It happens.

 

I don't fault Engelhaupt for upgrading to NU. Just like I can't really fault Simmons for upgrading to Clemson (although I don't like it).

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

He never had an option before now. Not really a fair comparison

 

 

Yeah.... I think the only difference is which side of the coin we're on.

 

 

Don't get me wrong, he's absolutely screwing Wyoming if he leaves and comes here. Nobody is denying that. But these scenarios aren't as comparable as you're making them out to be. I think this situation compares much more to Simmons' situation than Fitzpatricks. People are upset about Simmons but nobody blames him for taking an offer from Clemson at this point. Dez told our coaches this meant "nothing" and he was taking a free trip which led to us cancelling an OV from someone else, and went to freakin Louisville, after he has had the opportunity to OV there for the past however many months with a commitable offer. This kid got an offer yesterday. They're different situations.

 

Agree with this take.

 

We are screwing Wyoming by stealing one of their recruits late, but Englehaupt's situation is different than Fitz.

 

 

But what about the recruit? If Engelhaupt is good enough to play on a power five team shouldn't he get the opportunity? Or is there some unwritten set of genteel rules that prevents us from offering him that opportunity so as not to offend the Wyoming coaching staff?

 

It happens.

 

I don't fault Engelhaupt for upgrading to NU. Just like I can't really fault Simmons for upgrading to Clemson (although I don't like it).

 

 

Yeah, I feel the same way. It just natural that there will be some late adjustments to recruiting rosters. Like market adjustments in a free market economy.

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I think there are plenty of our current recruits who have a dream school, who if they offered might drop us... Maybe not...

 

It is part of the game. I feel bad for Wyoming, but just shows how much harder it is when the trickle down effect starts.

 

Clemson loses a top prospect so they go get a 2nd tier guy for them who was a 1st tier for Nebraska. Nebraska then steals a 1st tier kid from Wyoming and then Wyoming steals from a SDSU type.

 

 

Part of recruiting and while it is a bummer, cant fault the kids for taking a dream offer.

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But what about the recruit? If Engelhaupt is good enough to play on a power five team shouldn't he get the opportunity?

I hope he is good enough, we are his only power five offer.

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He's good enough. IMO he's actually a just as good TE prospect as Fant and Bubak.

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We have flipped commits and had kids flip from us. This is the nature of recruiting. Be excited when it happens in our favor and be disappointed when it doesn't. But stop calling into question the character of the player. You don't know them and they are young and impressionable.

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He's good enough. IMO he's actually a just as good TE prospect as Fant and Bubak.

I know "stars and rankings don't mean anything" but this guy ranks lower than our punter on 247.

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He's good enough. IMO he's actually a just as good TE prospect as Fant and Bubak.

I know "stars and rankings don't mean anything" but this guy ranks lower than our punter on 247.

 

 

Yeah, but for all we know that punter is amazing.... Have you seen him kick?!

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He's good enough. IMO he's actually a just as good TE prospect as Fant and Bubak.

I know "stars and rankings don't mean anything" but this guy ranks lower than our punter on 247.

 

 

Yeah, but for all we know that punter is amazing.... Have you seen him kick?!

 

You could be right. I would just prefer to see skill position players ranked a bit higher than kickers is all. No fault of his.

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His lower ranking be attributed to either not attending camps or not having enough film.

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His lower ranking be attributed to either not attending camps or not having enough film.

Or maybe he just isnt that good...

 

 

Recruiting isnt an exact science.

 

 

In this case, i will gladly take a kid who wants to be a Husker, has good size and is coachable... Give him a few years and by his 3rd or 4th year, hopefully he can run with it.

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Folks can complain about this offer if they wish, but I would love to see this young man be N!!

 

6-4 235 and athletic, has played OLB, RB, TE, DE, and special teams well.

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

He never had an option before now. Not really a fair comparison

 

 

Yeah.... I think the only difference is which side of the coin we're on.

 

 

Don't get me wrong, he's absolutely screwing Wyoming if he leaves and comes here. Nobody is denying that. But these scenarios aren't as comparable as you're making them out to be. I think this situation compares much more to Simmons' situation than Fitzpatricks. People are upset about Simmons but nobody blames him for taking an offer from Clemson at this point. Dez told our coaches this meant "nothing" and he was taking a free trip which led to us cancelling an OV from someone else, and went to freakin Louisville, after he has had the opportunity to OV there for the past however many months with a commitable offer. This kid got an offer yesterday. They're different situations.

 

 

So, to you, a kid who isn't committed to us choosing to to somewhere else is closer to a kid committed elsewhere flipping to us that a kid committed to us flipping elsewhere.

 

Interesting logical leap that is.

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Will we be mad at him for breaking his commitment this close to signing day?

Unless he made Wyoming cancel other official visitor options and then left after the school had the opportunity to bring in another TE visitor than no

You think he gave them any indication that they should be looking to replace a guy who's been committed for 7 months?

He never had an option before now. Not really a fair comparison

 

 

Yeah.... I think the only difference is which side of the coin we're on.

 

 

Don't get me wrong, he's absolutely screwing Wyoming if he leaves and comes here. Nobody is denying that. But these scenarios aren't as comparable as you're making them out to be. I think this situation compares much more to Simmons' situation than Fitzpatricks. People are upset about Simmons but nobody blames him for taking an offer from Clemson at this point. Dez told our coaches this meant "nothing" and he was taking a free trip which led to us cancelling an OV from someone else, and went to freakin Louisville, after he has had the opportunity to OV there for the past however many months with a commitable offer. This kid got an offer yesterday. They're different situations.

 

 

So, to you, a kid who isn't committed to us choosing to to somewhere else is closer to a kid committed elsewhere flipping to us that a kid committed to us flipping elsewhere.

 

Interesting logical leap that is.

 

 

The scenarios of what has played out is definitely closer. Simmons got a LATE offer from Clemson- nobody blames him for looking at it because 1. Clemson is a better program right now and 2. because of the timing of receiving his offer. That's why I'm saying it's closer to Engelhaupt's situation (where he received a late offer from a program clearly better than the one he had been looking at attending) than Fitzpatrick's. Fitz has known he could commit to Louisville at any point in time and yet scheduled his OV as the last weekend before the dead period/signing day and then went back on his commitment.

 

Someone earlier said it perfectly. If you were committed to work for a TV station in Omaha for 4 months and then right before you signed your contract with them ESPN offered you, could they really blame you if you went to ESPN? (Engelhaupt situation)

 

Likewise, is this situation worse? You have an opportunity to work for NBC Sports Network (Louisville) and then ESPN (Nebraska) calls you. You tell ESPN you're going to work for them and not to offer/pursue any other candidates for the position, so they tell their other prospective candidates "thanks but we're going in a different direction" (Lipscomb). But then you back out at the last minute after they've told all their other candidates no and go work for NBC Sports Network instead. (Fitzpatrick)

 

Do those situations sound the same? If so we might just have to agree to disagree on this one.

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Signing a contract? I thought it was about "giving your word" ha

 

Look...Here are the things I believe in 100%

 

1. Everyone will look around at better "jobs"

2. Everyone at some point will look out for themselves first and not the "company"

3. Everyone lies on their resumes (this is just an added bonus)

 

This cat...just like everyone else...needs to do what is best for him...no matter what we think about it

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Two were committed and one was not. You keep trying to gloss over that part. Even your analogies do not match this situation. You're mistaking your justifying one situation for it not being the same. Simmons has no commitment to break. That is what you are blaming Fitzpatrick for doing.

 

But you are free to think whatever you want.

 

I'm not blaming Engelhaupt. I hope he flips. That's how recruiting works. It's just amusing how people justify or vilify the participants depending on if they agree with the decision or not.

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