Stumpy1 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: I'm an avid gun owner also. I don't understand the thought process of the last sentence. Are collecting, shooting or building guns a serious hobby of yours? How about hunting every chance you get? That is the type of person he is and why I made the comment I did. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, Stumpy1 said: Are collecting, shooting or building guns a serious hobby of yours? How about hunting every chance you get? That is the type of person he is and why I made the comment I did. I own a number of guns that I have purchased for various uses that my son and I partake in. Some of my best memories and experiences have been with my son shooting both long range target shooting and skeet. We hunt pretty much any chance we get. What I don't understand is the thought process that because I like to own guns, shoot guns and use guns to hunt every chance I get, why should I oppose measures that helps prevent people who shouldn't have those guns from getting them. Personally, I think those measures strengthens the 2nd amendment by helping to make gun ownership safer for the public. 6 Link to comment
commando Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 mt brother is a big gun collector...over 500 different guns. he thinks that assault rifles and bump stocks should have never been made legal. but.....now that they are out there he says if any gun laws are enacted against them then soon the "democrats" will take all his guns away. the NRA sure has sold that idea and brainwashed everyone into believing it. 1 Link to comment
commando Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) i saw this more than a week ago...but didn't trust the sources. now it's hit a bigger source so will post it https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/he-disarmed-possible-church-shooter-then-police-arrived-shot-him-n851816?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma and this seems to conveniant. not sure if true or not but Edited February 28, 2018 by commando 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, commando said: i saw this more than a week ago...but didn't trust the sources. now it's hit a bigger source so will post it https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/he-disarmed-possible-church-shooter-then-police-arrived-shot-him-n851816?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma and this seems to conveniant. not sure if true or not but It has definitely entered my head that teachers can commit mass murder as well. Or, there might simply be a situation where you have a teacher who has a really bad temper, and under normal conditions he/she might yell at a student. Well, now if the wrong people get their way, he/she will have a gun while he's angry. Teachers are human, and there are some bad ones. Edited March 1, 2018 by Moiraine Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Oh.....this is going to be good. Now....what president and party wants to take their guns away? Link to comment
Moiraine Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Everyone (conservatives and liberals) should be against $ from groups like the NRA going to politicians. But I think both just don't like it when it's someone they don't like. Part of "draining the swamp" should be to not care what the NRA thinks. 1 Link to comment
zoogs Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 What does that cover? I'm OK with advocacy groups using money for political causes. This doesn't mean everything advocated is good. Some things are, some things are not. But consider literally anything and you will find some organized lobbying group. And the other problem I think is power imbalance. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, zoogs said: What does that cover? I'm OK with advocacy groups using money for political causes. This doesn't mean everything advocated is good. Some things are, some things are not. But consider literally anything and you will find some organized lobbying group. And the other problem I think is power imbalance. At the least I want it to go back to pre Citizens United. Link to comment
Redux Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 7 hours ago, commando said: assault rifles and bump stocks should have never been made legal. Assault rifles are not legal 1 Link to comment
commando Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Redux said: Assault rifles are not legal should have said...assault style weapons. people pick those up and some want to play rambo Link to comment
Redux Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 minute ago, commando said: should have said...assault style weapons. people pick those up and some want to play rambo Yeah, that's not really a thing. And you've said Rambo like a thousand times and it's not even an accurate stereotype. 2 Link to comment
zoogs Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Redux said: Assault rifles are not legal Are we really trying to split hairs between "assault rifle" and "assault weapon" here? Like the amendment to ban assault weapons that was voted out of a FL state legislature bill to ban bump stocks? Like the assault rifles that Dick's just announced they would stop selling, which is good, because they are illegal? Sorry -- assault-style, which is also good, because those are imaginary? Like the Federal Assault Weapons Ban (are "semiautomatic assault weapons" real enough for you?) which expired in 2004, has never been renewed, and efforts to pass a new one similar in kind were defeated by Republicans in 2012 and 2013? If you're going to argue that this distinction is meaningful -- and sure, maybe it is -- then you cannot simultaneously assert that "assault weapon" is not a real thing. People are not confused that AK-74s or M-16s or other full-auto rifles and machine guns can be purchased. In fact there seems to be good, general literacy that we are talking about semiauto weapons like the AR-15. Link to comment
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