obert1 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, teachercd said: I would be cool with that. Your gun and ammo gets stolen and is used in a crime, you go to prison for life. Your gun gets stolen, you get a 30 year sentence, your ammo gets stolen you get a 10 year sentence. Every gun owner I know tells me how responsible they are, so it should not be an issue. I asked this in a response, but if your car gets stolen b/c you left your keys in it and it is used in an incident where it kills someone else. Are you partially responsible? Full disclosure I may or may not have a munch of guns and maybe 80% are them are collectors and don't have firing pins. I hate getting into these things teach, but I couldn't help it here ha. Link to comment
Decoy73 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, obert1 said: What if you leave keys in a car and it gets stolen? Say it's used in an event that causes a fatality or another crime in some way. Do you hold the person who left their keys in the car partially responsible as well? I'll be 100% honest here, I'm hesitant to get into these discussions b/c I don't enjoy conflict, I ask for my own learning opportunity here and to gather other thoughts. I think you’re asking good questions. The way I see it is that a gun has a two purposes. Shooting targets for recreation and killing things including people. Therefore there is a great responsibility for safe use and storage. We lack those severely in our country IMO. Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, obert1 said: I asked this in a response, but if your car gets stolen b/c you left your keys in it and it is used in an incident where it kills someone else. Are you partially responsible? Full disclosure I may or may not have a munch of guns and maybe 80% are them are collectors and don't have firing pins. I hate getting into these things teach, but I couldn't help it here ha. I don't know...and I always read your name as Qbert! Link to comment
obert1 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, knapplc said: No worries about the bold. That's what P&R is for. Speak your mind. I get your analogy, but where I think it's different is in the intent of the item. A car is intended for transportation. Guns are intended to kill. I can use a spoon to kill someone, but i don't think we should have more spoon regulation. I guess I grew up in a community where a gun is used to hunt, which yes kill can be used, but not to harm another individual. It's an interesting discussion. One of my favorite ESPN takes was a friend of mine who played for the huskers discussing guns on espn with someone who grew up with a different view of guns. He played for the Chiefs and that segment happened shortly after the incident in KC. Link to comment
obert1 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Decoy73 said: I think you’re asking good questions. The way I see it is that a gun has a two purposes. Shooting targets for recreation and killing things including people. Therefore there is a great responsibility for safe use and storage. We lack those severely in our country IMO. Well said Decoy. I'm an avid hunter and I'm overly cautious with storage and when it comes to my children and guns. But I also enjoy hunting and collecting of guns. I would suppose this goes into a lot of things where we all feel punished by some things because of lack of responsibility by others. 6 minutes ago, teachercd said: I don't know...and I always read your name as Qbert! Qbert was one of my favorite games as a youngster. But nah, it's a tiny little town in Nebraska lol. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, obert1 said: Well said Decoy. I'm an avid hunter and I'm overly cautious with storage and when it comes to my children and guns. But I also enjoy hunting and collecting of guns. I would suppose this goes into a lot of things where we all feel punished by some things because of lack of responsibility by others. The thing is, we can't get rid of guns, because we need people like you to help keep down the deer population, if nothing else. We've eliminated all the natural predators on the plains, so without guns deer herds would be tearing up fields and causing even more accidents in a year. I think that's why it's important to speak about gun control, and have honest conversations about how that can realistically be managed. 1 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, knapplc said: The thing is, we can't get rid of guns, because we need people like you to help keep down the deer population, if nothing else. We've eliminated all the natural predators on the plains, so without guns deer herds would be tearing up fields and causing even more accidents in a year. I think that's why it's important to speak about gun control, and have honest conversations about how that can realistically be managed. Well...I mean, cars get rid of a lot of deers. Link to comment
Enhance Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 hours ago, obert1 said: My apologies for not finding the correct way to ask this, but the solution is to hold the person accountable that is being stolen from? Only in situations of negligence, yes. I think guns come with a sincere amount of responsibility... moreso than just about any other kind of property a citizen can own. That responsibility, in my humble opinion, demands accountability. If you leave a gun unsecured in your vehicle and it gets stolen, there should be repercussions. To be clear, I'm not anti-gun. I own them. But I think our citizenry has been given enough opportunities to do the right thing over the years and... we kind of suck at it. That's why I'm in favor of much stiffer gun control overall. 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, knapplc said: The thing is, we can't get rid of guns, because we need people like you to help keep down the deer population, if nothing else. We've eliminated all the natural predators on the plains, so without guns deer herds would be tearing up fields and causing even more accidents in a year. I think that's why it's important to speak about gun control, and have honest conversations about how that can realistically be managed. If it weren't for the GOP we could offer them plan B without a prescription and cover it. That and free condoms. Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 37 minutes ago, Moiraine said: If it weren't for the GOP we could offer them plan B without a prescription and cover it. That and free condoms. As someone who has put plan B in A LOT of morning coffee, you don't need a prescription, just a quiet garage door and close proximity to a CVS. 3 Link to comment
funhusker Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 10 hours ago, teachercd said: Well...I mean, cars get rid of a lot of deers. What if keys are left in a car, and someone steals it and then kills a deer? 2 Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, funhusker said: What if keys are left in a car, and someone steals it and then kills a deer? Case like that...that ends up in the Supreme Court. Link to comment
Scarlet Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 11 hours ago, teachercd said: Well...I mean, cars get rid of a lot of deers. Deer, Teach 5 Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 36 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: No way this will ever pass. Nor should it. Link to comment
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