Gun Control

[JJ Husker]

Interesting read on what Australia did to curtail gun violence.

 

https://apple.news/ALDwUn0S6SrKDEdQYgBQ4cw

 

[suh_fan93]

Incredible   

 

 

[teachercd]

7 hours ago, JJ Husker said:

Interesting read on what Australia did to curtail gun violence.

 

https://apple.news/ALDwUn0S6SrKDEdQYgBQ4cw

 

This is pretty much the idea I have and amazingly it doesn't even require a law.  People that have guns in America can just go and turn them in and never buy another one.  Sporting good stores can simply no longer sell them.

 

People, and clearly there are many of us that feel this way, can start this.

[BigRedBuster]

But….why????

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

 

[BigRedBuster]

OMG….

 

 

[knapplc]

The police are going to have a lot of explaining to do. The more we hear about this, the worse it gets for them.

[FrantzHardySwag]

18 minutes ago, knapplc said:

The police are going to have a lot of explaining to do. The more we hear about this, the worse it gets for them.

Just saw this stuff....what the ever loving f#&% were they doing? Did I read that an off duty border control officer went in alone and killed the shooter? How many more kids dead if it was up to the PD? 40% of the cities budget so they can play solider every day except the day they are actually needed?

[teachercd]

Wow, an hour!

 

That is hard to even imagine.  I have been on real lockdowns at school twice...neither lasted much more than like 20 minutes and it seemed like forever.

[nic]

11 hours ago, knapplc said:

So much for the right-wing lie of "good guy with a gun."

 

This was one 18 year old with a couple of assault rifles. They were trained law enforcement officers.

 

The whole 2nd Amendment gun cult in this country is built on lies. "Molon labe" pencil dicks with less courage than a kid amped up by 4chan.

 

Onlookers urged police to charge into Texas school

UVALDE, Texas (AP) — Onlookers urged police officers to charge into the Texas elementary school where a gunman’s rampage killed 19 children and two teachers, witnesses said Wednesday, as investigators worked to track the massacre that lasted upwards of 40 minutes and ended when the 18-year-old shooter was killed by a Border Patrol team.

 

“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza, 24, who saw the scene from outside his house, across the street from Robb Elementary School in the town of Uvalde. Carranza said the officers did not go in.

 

Javier Cazares, whose fourth grade daughter, Jacklyn Cazares, was killed in the attack, said he raced to the school when he heard about the shooting, arriving while police were still massed outside the building.

 

Upset that police were not moving in, he raised the idea of charging into the school with several other bystanders.

 

“Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything like they are supposed to,” he said. “More could have been done.”

 

“They were unprepared,” he added.

 

 

Minutes earlier, Carranza had watched as Ramos crashed his truck into a ditch outside the school, grabbed his AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle and shot at two people outside a nearby funeral home who ran away uninjured.

 

He then exchanged fire with a school district security officer, ran inside and fired on two arriving Uvalde police officers who were outside the building, said Texas Department of Public Safety spokesperson Travis Considine. All the law enforcement officers were injured, he said.

 

Hours later, Considine said authorities did not know for sure whether the school officer exchanged gunfire with Ramos. Law enforcement officials have also issued sometimes-contradictory statements about the length of Ramos’ rampage.

 

After entering the school, Ramos charged into one classroom and began to kill, a law enforcement official said.

 

He “barricaded himself by locking the door and just started shooting children and teachers that were inside that classroom,” Lt. Christopher Olivarez of the Department of Public Safety told CNN. “It just shows you the complete evil of the shooter.”

 

All those killed were in the same classroom, he said.

 

Department of Public Safety Director Steve McCraw said “40 minutes or so” elapsed from when Ramos opened fire on the school security officer and when the SWAT-like Border Patrol team shot him.

 

A law enforcement official familiar with the investigation said the Border Patrol agents had trouble breaching the classroom door and had to get a staff member to open the room with a key. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about the ongoing investigation.

I read on CNN that a school security officer confronted the kid when he walked in. It made him drop a bag of ammo, but I have not seen any other details. Not sure if the kid just ran away from the guard and the guard didn’t shoot. It will be interesting to find out what happened. Maybe he missed his chance to be a hero. 

[nic]

13 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

Sorry to burst your excitement bubble.  

Great question 

CNN has a little write up. Loner. Got bullied at school. Got in fights a lot. this doesn’t explain it but the story Sounds familiar. Every school has kids like this. He needed some friends.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/25/us/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-salvador-ramos/index.html
 

 

[knapplc]

5 minutes ago, nic said:

I read on CNN that a school security officer confronted the kid when he walked in. It made him drop a bag of ammo, but I have not seen any other details. Not sure if the kid just ran away from the guard and the guard didn’t shoot. It will be interesting to find out what happened. Maybe he missed his chance to be a hero. 

 

Their job is to stop this. We've been assured that all the gun toters out there are one crisis away from stopping these guys. Clearly that's a lie.

 

How many "from my cold dead hands" guys were within 60 minutes of this incident? Why wasn't there an armed mob of 100s of "good guys with guns" descending on this school to save these kids?

 

Why were the cops arguing with bystanders instead of going in there to stop him? 

 

Clearly the gun cult in Texas is a facade. If the good guys with guns aren't going to stop the bad guys with guns, what's the use of the 2nd Amendment?

[Archy1221]

2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

But….why????

 

 

The caption under the photo tells you. 

[BigRedBuster]

1 minute ago, Archy1221 said:

The caption under the photo tells you. 

But why?  Don't these people believe more guns the better because then everyone's safer?

[knapplc]

2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

But….why????

 

 

 

 

A true lover of gun freedom would be outraged that the Secret Service is taking away basic human rights. 

 

Unless that's all for show and he doesn't believe having everyone in the building armed makes him safer. Surely it couldn't be something so hypocritical?