knapplc Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 Just now, Redux said: I really don't like there being minimal transparency. There is full transparency to our election systems. Every vote is counted in public. All of the election officials are answerable to elected officials, all of whom are required by open meeting laws to hold public hearings in the event of fraud or malfeasance. There are built-in fail-safes to the electoral process, including ballot verification, poll watchers, and recounts in the case of close votes. These are all bipartisan groups. For election fraud to take place, as trump has claimed, both Republicans and Democrats would have to be in on it. Anyone wishing to contest the results of an election can do so in court. Which trump did, going 1-60 in those cases. Most were laughed out of court, a few with prejudice, because like this whole line of nonsense you keep putting in this thread, they provided zero evidence of fraud. You know why they didn't even try in most cases? Because to do so in a court of law opens them up to prosecution. Not one of trump's lawyers was willing to actually put anything of substance in front of a judge. 3 Link to comment
Redux Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 44 minutes ago, knapplc said: There is full transparency to our election systems. Every vote is counted in public. All of the election officials are answerable to elected officials, all of whom are required by open meeting laws to hold public hearings in the event of fraud or malfeasance. There are built-in fail-safes to the electoral process, including ballot verification, poll watchers, and recounts in the case of close votes. These are all bipartisan groups. For election fraud to take place, as trump has claimed, both Republicans and Democrats would have to be in on it. Anyone wishing to contest the results of an election can do so in court. Which trump did, going 1-60 in those cases. Most were laughed out of court, a few with prejudice, because like this whole line of nonsense you keep putting in this thread, they provided zero evidence of fraud. You know why they didn't even try in most cases? Because to do so in a court of law opens them up to prosecution. Not one of trump's lawyers was willing to actually put anything of substance in front of a judge. Boy, that would just be crazy huh..... Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 So, I lost track after like 1-40, but what is Trumps record in court cases now? And how much money has he stole from gullible supporters to have his lawyers go in front of a judge and say they have no evidence of fraud? Literally, the judge in one PA case asked straight up and the lawyer said no, we dont. And the judge basically said gtfo: Trump appointed judge btw. These lawyers know they can be disbarred for lying in court, so they tell the truth when nobody is looking. Open your f#&%ing eyes, youre being conned by a con man! Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 16 hours ago, Redux said: That's more than fair. But I also remember 4 years ago when nobody wanted to accept those results. I just can't stand the double standards. I like seeing the same logic and rules applied both ways. If there is proof of fraud I want to see it. So far I haven't seen squat that convinces me either way. And unfortunately I think that's the way they want it. What? I don’t remember Democrat’s claiming there was fraud in the election. Everyone was surprised Trump won. But, I don’t remember anyone claiming the votes were fraudulent. 1 1 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 20 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: What? I don’t remember Democrat’s claiming there was fraud in the election. Everyone was surprised Trump won. But, I don’t remember anyone claiming the votes were fraudulent. I seem to remember grumbling, but it didnt stick,, likely due to the fact that Trump garnered less tallies in the popular vote. 1 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Lol... tail between their legs after the threat of legal action Link to comment
knapplc Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/19/2020 at 8:15 AM, BigRedBuster said: I don’t remember Democrat’s claiming there was fraud in the election. Trump claimed there was fraud. It's his brand. 2016 Quote Trump claims millions voted illegally in presidential poll US President-elect Donald Trump has asserted he won the popular vote on 8 November "if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally". The Republican, who won the all-important electoral college count, offered no evidence to back his claim. It comes after the camp of Democratic rival Hillary Clinton said it would support a vote recount in Wisconsin initiated by a Green Party candidate. 2012 Sound familiar? Trump called 2012 vote a ‘total sham’ 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, knapplc said: Trump claimed there was fraud. It's his brand. Yes, I specifically was talking about Democrats claiming fraudulent voting and that's why Trump won. Trump just did this because his big fat ego couldn't handle knowing he didn't win the popular vote. Link to comment
knapplc Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 You will NEVER GUESS who this person cast fraudulent votes for! NEVER!!! Quote Pennsylvania man accused of casting dead mother's ballot A Pennsylvania man is facing charges of unlawful voting and perjury after prosecutors say he illegally voted on behalf of a long-dead family member in the General Election. Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer said during a news conference Monday that Bruce Bartman, 70, of Marple, voted in place of his dead mother. He also said Bartman registered his mother-in-law, who died in 2019, to vote but did not obtain an absentee ballot for her. Stollsteimer said Bartman had registered both women as Republicans and told investigators he had done so to help reelect Donald Trump. The district attorney said he only mentioned the party affiliation because of multiple conspiracy theories circulating about voter fraud, adding that this is the only case during this election that his office has encountered. Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Not really under this banner, but kinda related 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: Not really under this banner, but kinda related This is a really good idea. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 So Democrats are for changing outcomes of election!?!? I’m so confused now https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/12/22/298952-n298952 2 Link to comment
Dr. Strangelove Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 10 hours ago, Archy1221 said: So Democrats are for changing outcomes of election!?!? I’m so confused now https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/12/22/298952-n298952 Have they grifted donors into donating millions of dollars to hire an army of lawyers to throw out those results? I don't see Democrats offering any support for this case, it won't go anywhere. Also, Redstate is a cesspool that published revenge porn of a sitting member of Congress. It's a complete and total joke. Posting links to it does not help you. 3 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said: Have they grifted donors into donating millions of dollars to hire an army of lawyers to throw out those results? I don't see Democrats offering any support for this case, it won't go anywhere. Also, Redstate is a cesspool that published revenge porn of a sitting member of Congress. It's a complete and total joke. Posting links to it does not help you. Check out the other Iowa house Dem support 51 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said: Have they grifted donors into donating millions of dollars to hire an army of lawyers to throw out those results? I don't see Democrats offering any support for this case, it won't go anywhere. Also, Redstate is a cesspool that published revenge porn of a sitting member of Congress. It's a complete and total joke. Posting links to it does not help you. So cause a fact comes from RedState makes it all of a sudden untrue? Please, your comment does not help you. 1 Link to comment
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