teachercd Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Hang on. Trump has a great relationship with The Blacks. Seriously, the way he talks about minority groups when he's attempting to show how unbigoted he is should be enough of a hint, without him coming out and saying "Hey guys I'm racist." Awesome job not judging! Link to comment
ZRod Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Hang on. Trump has a great relationship with The Blacks. Seriously, the way he talks about minority groups when he's attempting to show how unbigoted he is should be enough of a hint, without him coming out and saying "Hey guys I'm racist." Awesome job not judging! Way to further the discussion. Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Hang on. Trump has a great relationship with The Blacks. Seriously, the way he talks about minority groups when he's attempting to show how unbigoted he is should be enough of a hint, without him coming out and saying "Hey guys I'm racist." Awesome job not judging! Way to further the discussion. You don't seem to see the irony Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Hang on. Trump has a great relationship with The Blacks. Seriously, the way he talks about minority groups when he's attempting to show how unbigoted he is should be enough of a hint, without him coming out and saying "Hey guys I'm racist." Awesome job not judging! Way to further the discussion. Actually, I agree with teach. I thought Moiraine did an awesome job analyzing the situation without judging. Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Hang on. Trump has a great relationship with The Blacks. Seriously, the way he talks about minority groups when he's attempting to show how unbigoted he is should be enough of a hint, without him coming out and saying "Hey guys I'm racist." Awesome job not judging! Way to further the discussion. Actually, I agree with teach. I thought Moiraine did an awesome job analyzing the situation without judging. Thank you! Link to comment
zoogs Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 The point is that Trump deals pretty casually in racism -- enough to (apparently plausibly) pull back and say, "Woah, who, me? I'm just asking questions about the birth certificates, man. Many people are saying." Do I think he personally has it out for Black people? No. But to think that's the threshold is mistaken. Do I think Trump believes, for example, that laziness is a trait in Blacks? Well -- I don't know. It's dubious that he actually said that. It would not be inconsistent. Certainly it's something many people believe (don't kid yourselves, guys). And the guy with a past of being investigated for discriminatory housing practices, has he demonstrated empathy or understanding? Denounced any of that? No. What he has done is cast race-based aspersions on others at his convenience. His campaign harnessed the worst in us, multiplying fears of foreign immigrants in ways the media charitably referred to as "racially tinged." His loud insistence on the overwhelming love and support he has from communities reveals a lack of of interest in their concerns and welfare. Yes, that describes many a politician. Few have been so unabashed, or had blind spots this significant relative to their times. Trump probably doesn't think white people are a genetically superior masterrace. But he's probably pretty OK with the idea that this country and its institutions mostly belong to them, and is pretty comfortable with getting us "back" to the old days when diversity-blind norms ruled. If his transition team is any indication, America's next government will be a limited reflection of its enormous diversity. It takes a real understanding, a continued effort at developing more of it, and concerted intention. These things aren't that hard but they are important. Trump shows none of those, nor the willingness. 4 Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 What he has done is cast race-based aspersions on others at his convenience. Unfortunately, there are enough people in our country for whom the color of a person's skin is a decision-making factor. Those people need constant reinforcement that such behaviors are not OK. Trump does the opposite - he normalizes that behavior and thus perpetuates it. There is a mistaken belief that a person must be overtly racist to adversely affect race relations. The opposite, unfortunately, is true. One must overtly oppose racism to combat it. 4 Link to comment
WoodyHayes1951 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 The birther thing is stupid and Donald Trump was a birther which is also stupid. However, the inconvenient truth is that it came from Hillary Clinton supporters. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/02/08/the-secret-history-of-the-birthers.html Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Again, though, Hillary Clinton is not going to be president. Supporters of her are not going to be president. Donald Trump IS going to be president. So saying "but the left..." rings pretty hollow. Knapp hit the nail on the head. Trump's may not come out with any overtly racist policies. Apparently they've scrubbed that Muslim ban already from the platform. I have to laugh at the people that genuinely had their hearts set on that.But he's not going to do much to make race relations any better, I'd wager. How could he? He's got a long and sordid history of doing the opposite. DJT is to me, the epitome of rich white privilege. I for one plan to try to actively counter the views he's carried with him past the finish line this election.I mean the guy literally came out and patted himself on the back for his own bigoted attacks on the sitting President because he said he did the country the favor by getting Obama to release his birth certificate (he didn't, this is just the lens through which Trump views reality). You're telling me THAT guy is going to be our great racial Healer-in-Chief? 1 Link to comment
zoogs Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Hillary neither started nor stoked the brother stuff. I think she's done a thorough job of directly and unreservedly repudiating it, actually. So have, I suspect, most of her supporters. Racism wasn't much of an animus in the HRC camp, at least not this time around. Knapp makes a great point about overt rejection. On racism, the only controversy I see about liberals is that they do this too much. Link to comment
NUance Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 There is a mistaken belief that a person must be overtly racist to adversely affect race relations. The opposite, unfortunately, is true. One must overtly oppose racism to combat it. Sometimes even that isn't enough. Race relations seem worse today than eight years ago. And I believe it's fair to say that Obama overtly opposes racism. It makes me wonder what's in store for the next four years. : 1 Link to comment
ZRod Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 The birther thing is stupid and Donald Trump was a birther which is also stupid. However, the inconvenient truth is that it came from Hillary Clinton supporters. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/02/08/the-secret-history-of-the-birthers.html The birther thing is stupid and Donald Trump was a birther which is also stupid. However, the inconvenient truth is that it came from Hillary Clinton supporters. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/02/08/the-secret-history-of-the-birthers.html Did you even read your own article? Link to comment
Landlord Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Didn't read the ENTIRE thread, and copy/pasted this from reddit. Many of us will realize that some of them are stretches as far as strict definition of what is or isn't overtly racist, and some of them refer more to his supporters than to him himself, but you know the saying where there's smoke there's fire? Well in this case can we just admit that when there's a firetruck, with firemen, spraying firehoses, and the sky is orange, and there's lots of smoke, that there's actually a fire, and that it's okay to acknowledge the fact that there is a fire and that it's not just being used as a distraction from an earthquake a mile away, or that we are dismissing the fact that other fires exist in other places? Okay, cool. Donald Trump violated the civil rights act by refusing to rent homes to black people. http://www.nytimes.com/times-insider/2015/07/30/1973-meet-donald-trump/ http://new.www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/donald-trump-blacks-lawsuit_n_855553.html http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/15/doj-trump-s-early-businesses-blocked-blacks.html http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/09/07/the-death-and-life-of-atlantic-city Trump continued to refuse to rent homes to black people three years after Justice Department ruling on the matter sides against Trump. http://www.nytimes.com/1978/03/07/archives/trump-charged-with-rental-bias.html http://www.nytimes.com/1983/10/16/realestate/for-starrett-city-an-integration-test.html?scp=4&sq=trump+discrimination&st=nyt&pagewanted=all Trump ordered blacks to leave casino floor whenever him or wife arrives on property. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/09/07/the-death-and-life-of-atlantic-city 1991 book written by Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino President quotes Trump as saying: “I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day… . I think the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.“ http://articles.philly.com/1991-05-10/news/25795529_1_trump-associates-trump-s-atlantic-city-donald-trump Trump built a casino in black majority city and breaks promise to mayor about hiring locals, refrains to hire the minorities and opting to staff the casino with almost exclusively all Caucasian employees. http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/money/trump-hit-race-suit-blacks-don-dealt-casino-jobs-article-1.726389 Trump was asked about replacing TSA's 'heebeejabis' with veterans, responded with: "We're looking at it" http://www.npr.org/2016/06/30/484229621/woman-asks-trump-about-replacing-tsas-heebejabis-with-veterans http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-response-anti-muslim-tsa-worker-question-veterans-2016-7 http://time.com/4039658/trump-obama-muslim/ Trump responded to accusations of racism by hiring a former aid for Joseph McCarthy to sue the government for half a billion dollars. http://www.salon.com/2011/04/28/donald_trump_discrimination_suit/ Trump kept books of Hitler Speeches by his bed. http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8 http://forward.com/the-assimilator/318664/trump-and-hitler/ http://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-hitler-speeches-book Trump's campaign photoshopped a white model black. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trumps-people-almost-definitely-photoshopped-a-white-model-to-make-her-black_us_56d872d5e4b03a405677a680 http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/donald-trump-photoshopped-models-to-be-african-american-in-his-online-store/ Trump refused to disavow support from the Klu Klux Klan multiple times during interview only to change his mind later on twitter. http://www.dailywire.com/news/3739/disgusting-trump-reverses-himself-refuses-disavow-ben-shapiro https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-kkk-cnn-tapper-154053871.html http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/28/468455028/trump-wont-condemn-kkk-says-he-knows-nothing-about-white-supremacists http://time.com/4240268/donald-trump-kkk-david-duke/ http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-duke-trump-219777 The KKK endorses Trump. http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/a-lot-of-what-he-believes-we-believe-kkk-grand-imperial-wizard-endorses-trump/ http://www.snopes.com/2016/05/02/klan-leader-endorses-trump/ http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/04/30/3774243/ku-klux-klan-imperial-wizard-endorses-donald-trump-for-president/ Trump retweets message from Pro-Hitler, white genocide conspiracy Twitter account. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-whitegenocidetm-retweet http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/430201/donald-trump-retweets-white-genocide-twitter-user http://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-retweets-white-genocide-account-based-in-jewmerica/ http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-retweets-neo-nazi-sympathizer-article-1.2506735 Analysis shows that 62% of the people Trump retweeted on the week of January 19th 2016 were white supremacist accounts. http://www.getlittlebird.com/blog/data-62-of-the-people-donald-trump-rted-this-week-follow-multiple-white-supremacist-accounts Trump picks famed white supremacist leader as delegate. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/donald-trump-white-nationalist-afp-delegate-california http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/45928_Donald_Trump_Picks_Well-Known_White_Nationalist_Leader_as_a_Delegate_in_California http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-picks-white-nationalist-leader-as-delegate/ Trump's son gives interview with Holocaust denying radio show host who wants to bring back slavery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Political_Cesspool#Donald_Trump_Jr._interview http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/donald-trump-son-pro-slavery-host-interview-220120?lo=ap_c1 http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/271501-trump-grants-press-credentials-to-pro-white-radio-show Trump's "my African-American" isn't even a Trump supporter. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/06/05/480864303/trumps-african-american-i-am-not-a-trump-supporter Trump gives press credentials to white supremacist radio host. http://www.nationalmemo.com/donald-trump-gives-interview-pres-credentials-to-white-supremacist/ Trump discriminated against Native-Americans as well. http://www.courant.com/business/dan-haar/hc-haar-donald-trump-connecticut-indians-weicker-20150810-column.html Six former contestants of The Apprentice blast Trump as a racist and sexist. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/former-apprentice-contestants-denounce-donald-trump-s-candidacy-n556306 Trumps father was arrested for attacking police officers at KKK rally. http://boingboing.net/2015/09/09/1927-news-report-donald-trump.html http://addictinginfo.org/2015/09/09/donald-trumps-dad-was-arrested-during-kkk-rally-that-attacked-two-police-officers/ http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fred-trump-arrest-1927-kkk Public Policy Polling polls Trump supporters and discovers: 60% Support banning Muslims from entering the United States 50% Support the Confederate flag hanging on the capital grounds 30% Support shutting down all mosques in the United States 30% Wish the South won the civil war 25% Islam should be illegal in the United States 25% Support the policy of Japanese Internment 20% Support banning homosexuals from entering the United States 10% Say Whites are a superior race (11% aren’t sure one way or another) http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_SC_21616.pdf http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/one_out_of_three_trump_voters_in_sc_would_ban_gays_from_entering_the_u_s http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/02/guess-how-many-donald-trump-supporters-want-gay-people-barred-from-entering-america/ Trump refuses to condemn violence against muslims and African-Americans committed by his supporters. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-idUSKCN0WM0RJ http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/trump-refuses-to-condemn-violence-at-his-rallies When asked for comments on two of his supporters who brutally beat and urinated on a Hispanic homeless man while yelling Pro-Trump Slogans, Trump responds by defending the men as just being "passionate". https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/21/trump-says-fans-are-very-passionate-after-hearing-one-of-them-allegedly-assaulted-hispanic-man/ http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donald-trump-calls-boston-brothers-who-beat-homeless-hispanic-man-his-name-passionate-1516392 https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/08/20/after-two-brothers-allegedly-beat-homeless-man-one-them-admiringly-quote-donald-trump-deporting-illegals/I4NXR3Dr7litLi2NB4f9TN/story.html The Economist polls Trump supporters and discovers: 15% disapprove of slavery being abolished - (Another 20% aren’t sure one way or another) 50% support the use of torture on foreign enemy combatants - (Another 25% aren’t sure one way or another) https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ctucuikdsj/econToplines.pdf http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-supporters-for-intolerance.html?smid=tw-share&_r=2 http://time.com/4236640/donald-trump-racist-supporters/ 80% of Trump's supporters claim to have no problem with racist comments. http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/12/8o-percent-gop-voters-trumps-racist-comments-totally-fine.html Trump falsely claims 4 out of 5 white people who were victims of homicide were murdered by blacks. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/ Trump believes that Mexicans are rapist by default. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi33KkhKRWs https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/08/donald-trumps-false-comments-connecting-mexican-immigrants-and-crime/ Trump tweeted an anti-semitic tweet likely depicting Hillary jewish. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-star-david-225058?cmpid=sf https://mic.com/articles/147711/donald-trump-s-star-of-david-hillary-clinton-meme-was-created-by-white-supremacists#.tfw8osmNX The HRC David star tweet turned out to originate from a neo-nazi website. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DC_GOP_2016_TRUMP_TWEET?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-s-star-david-tweet-about-hillary-clinton-posted-n603161 Trump retweets quote from Italian Dictator Benito Mussolini. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35682844 http://time.com/4240330/donald-trump-benito-mussolini-quote/ http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/28/donald-trump-retweets-post-likening-him-to-mussolini/ Trump uses picture of Nazi soldiers in official campaign poster. https://news.vice.com/article/donald-trump-just-tweeted-and-deleted-a-picture-featuring-nazi-ss-soldiers?utm_source=vicenewstwitter https://i.imgur.com/JDqBCXd.jpg Trump's spokesman, Katrina Pierson, critized Obama for being "a negro" and not "pure-breed". http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/29/katrina-pierson-donald-trump-spokeswoman-defends-t/ http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/top-trump-official-defends-call-for-pure-breed-president-obama-is-a-half-breed-and-so-am-i/ http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/266845-trump-spokeswoman-defends-pure-breeds-tweet Opinions of his supporters. 20% of Trump's supporters think that freeing the slaves was a bad thing. http://time.com/4236640/donald-trump-racist-supporters/ 65% of Trump's supporters think Obama is a muslim. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/05/gop-quickly-unifies-around-trump-clinton-still-has-modest-lead.html#more 64% of Trump's supporters think that "Muslims should be subject to more scrutiny" http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/05/11/trump-supporters-differ-from-other-gop-voters-on-foreign-policy-immigration-issues/?utm_content=buffer053ac&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer Trump supporters are more likely than supporters of other Republican candidates to have negative feelings towards feminists, Muslims, Latinos, Gays and Lesbians, and Transgender people. In contrast, Trump supporters have far warmer feelings towards whites than supporters of other candidates. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-voters-versus-republicans_us_573b0ec0e4b060aa781b32ce Trump's "muslim ban" is unconstitutional. http://time.com/4139476/donald-trump-shutdown-muslim-immigration/ http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/12/08/is-trumps-proposed-ban-on-muslim-entry-constitutional/ https://reason.com/blog/2016/03/03/donald-trump-enemy-of-the-constitution Trump thinks that muslims should wear "special ID badges", as well as having a database tracking muslims. http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/trump-crosses-the-nazi-line-maybe-muslims-should-wear-special-id-badges/ http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/20/opinions/obeidallah-trump-anti-muslim/ Trump lies about how "muslims celebrated 9/11". http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-911_us_565b1950e4b08e945feb7326 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/22/donald-trumps-outrageous-claim-that-thousands-of-new-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/ Trump wants to racially profile to "prevent criminality". http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKCN0Z50PV http://fortune.com/2016/06/19/trump-racial-profiling/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/19/donald-trump-proposes-racial-profiling-gun-control-nra Trump had a full-page ad promoting execution of a group of Latino and Black children, who later turned out to be innocent. Trump continued to believe that they were somehow guilty dispite the DNA test. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/17/central-park-five-donald-trump-jogger-rape-case-new-york http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/donald-trump-and-the-central-park-five He believes that Obama was born in Kenya. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/07/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-president-obamas-grandmother-cau/ http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/us/politics/donald-trump-obama-muslim.html?_r=0 https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate He attacked Judge P. Curiel for his "Mexican heritage" http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-keeps-up-attacks-on-judge-gonzalo-curiel-1464911442 http://www.forbes.com/sites/henrymiller/2016/06/30/greenpeace-more-dishonest-and-dangerous-than-the-mafia/#18d6cc541f44 http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/06/no-judge-curiel-not-biased-against-donald-trump Anne Frank's relatives thinks that Trump is 'acting like Hitler'. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/anne-franks-step-sister-says-donald-trump-is-acting-like-hitler-a6838531.html http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/27/politics/anne-frank-donald-trump-adolf-hitler/index.html Trump was fined $200,000 in 1992 by the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement for not allowing blacks or women onto his casino floor while a racist Mafia leader was gambling. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/donald-trump-scandals/474726/ http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/downashore/Trump-ties-to-mobster-racist-casino-policies-resurface-in-new-report.html Trump kicked the only black Republican official out of an Atlanta Trump event with no explanation. http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/black-georgia-gop-official-booted-from-atlanta-trump-event-with-no-explanation/ ... and it keeps going on. 7 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 LOMS thanks for taking the time to compile and post the stuff above - I knew it all and yet its still just horrific and mind boggeling to see it all in one place. Link to comment
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