Cdog923 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 As I'm unfamiliar with his situation, what are the chances he gets the academic stuff cleared up? Potential preferred walk-on candidate? Or will he go JUCO? All the talk has been that if he gets his grades up, and gets a qualifying ACT score, he'll get a scholly. I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up at a Juco if Nebraska wants to stash him for a couple years. PS, those ideas always sound great, but can anyone name the last time it actually worked out that way? (Meaning, we stashed him at a JUCO and then they eventually ended up at Nebraska) Who was the kid that Pelini put at Iowa Western with the intent of bringing him back? It happened during the transition, and Riley passed on him. In a business sense, it at least lets the program get a look at a kid against competition that is a higher level than Class A football in Nebraska. Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 As I'm unfamiliar with his situation, what are the chances he gets the academic stuff cleared up? Potential preferred walk-on candidate? Or will he go JUCO? All the talk has been that if he gets his grades up, and gets a qualifying ACT score, he'll get a scholly. I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up at a Juco if Nebraska wants to stash him for a couple years. PS, those ideas always sound great, but can anyone name the last time it actually worked out that way? (Meaning, we stashed him at a JUCO and then they eventually ended up at Nebraska) Who was the kid that Pelini put at Iowa Western with the intent of bringing him back? It happened during the transition, and Riley passed on him. In a business sense, it at least lets the program get a look at a kid against competition that is a higher level than Class A football in Nebraska. Dude, I agree with you. It's a great idea. I'm just saying it never seems to pan out. (It was a RB that was recently placed there, name escapes me though) Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Reading between the lines (second-to-thirdhand here), but I think what he's saying is that his elementary school teachers let him skate by without holding him accountable. That type of behavior snowballs until it smacks the student in the face later on in life (be it in HS or even college). If he didn't have any sort of work ethic, that would lend itself to him struggling in his first two years of HS, no matter how smart he is. Which screams at me...."PARENTS". This kid may very well be smart enough to get decent to good grades in HS and get well above a qualifying ACT. However, if everything discussed here is correct, I would put the first and foremost blame on the parents. If the grade school teacher let him "slip by" without learning anything to prepare him...the parents should have been better involved in making sure he IS learning something and preparing him. Work ethic??? Where do you think that is taught? Hint....it's not from the teachers. Quote Link to comment
Warrior10 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 As I'm unfamiliar with his situation, what are the chances he gets the academic stuff cleared up? Potential preferred walk-on candidate? Or will he go JUCO?His coach said last night something along the lines of: "There is a plan in place to get Jaylin to Lincoln, it's up to him to follow it." Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 As I'm unfamiliar with his situation, what are the chances he gets the academic stuff cleared up? Potential preferred walk-on candidate? Or will he go JUCO? All the talk has been that if he gets his grades up, and gets a qualifying ACT score, he'll get a scholly. I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up at a Juco if Nebraska wants to stash him for a couple years. PS, those ideas always sound great, but can anyone name the last time it actually worked out that way? (Meaning, we stashed him at a JUCO and then they eventually ended up at Nebraska) Who was the kid that Pelini put at Iowa Western with the intent of bringing him back? It happened during the transition, and Riley passed on him. In a business sense, it at least lets the program get a look at a kid against competition that is a higher level than Class A football in Nebraska. Dude, I agree with you. It's a great idea. I'm just saying it never seems to pan out. (It was a RB that was recently placed there, name escapes me though) Oh yea, I'm sorry if the tone conveyed was combative; I'm in agreement with you. I was more "thinking out loud" than anything. Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Reading between the lines (second-to-thirdhand here), but I think what he's saying is that his elementary school teachers let him skate by without holding him accountable. That type of behavior snowballs until it smacks the student in the face later on in life (be it in HS or even college). If he didn't have any sort of work ethic, that would lend itself to him struggling in his first two years of HS, no matter how smart he is. Which screams at me...."PARENTS". This kid may very well be smart enough to get decent to good grades in HS and get well above a qualifying ACT. However, if everything discussed here is correct, I would put the first and foremost blame on the parents. If the grade school teacher let him "slip by" without learning anything to prepare him...the parents should have been better involved in making sure he IS learning something and preparing him. Work ethic??? Where do you think that is taught? Hint....it's not from the teachers. As a teacher, all I can say is: Quote Link to comment
Atbone95 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I am friends with Bellevue West grads a couple years older than Jaylin who were friends with him in high school. Let's just say I'm not sure what his grades have been junior/senior year, but he was averaging below D's the first two years. Not easy to overcome in terms of averages. Quote Link to comment
Decked Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Most courses In high school you can just do the homework and not study and STILL pass. Just don't be lazy. Quote Link to comment
sho Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I haven't read the entire thread, but I used to date a 5th grade teacher working for a metro area school. She would tell me on average, she'd have 4-5 kids a year in her class of around 20 that read at a 1st or 2nd grade level. And because the process was so difficult to actually hold the kid back to work on his education, the kids would be moved up the next grade. So, I can see his point where his elementary school teachers failed him. However, it sounds like it's more a systematic issue where teachers feel it's too difficult to hold kids back to repeat a grade, and instead just push the kid to the next grade level. Quote Link to comment
sho Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Also, my nephew goes to Bell West, knows Jaylin personally and says there's very little chance he'll make it to a D1 school Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I haven't read the entire thread, but I used to date a 5th grade teacher working for a metro area school. She would tell me on average, she'd have 4-5 kids a year in her class of around 20 that read at a 1st or 2nd grade level. And because the process was so difficult to actually hold the kid back to work on his education, the kids would be moved up the next grade. So, I can see his point where his elementary school teachers failed him. However, it sounds like it's more a systematic issue where teachers feel it's too difficult to hold kids back to repeat a grade, and instead just push the kid to the next grade level. To reply to that, I have taught at an extremely low socio-economic school. It's not hard for the teacher to say this kid should stay back, or this could should move up. It's hard to get the parent to agree. That's the hard part. The Teacher only "moves the kid up" because that's what the parent wants to do. I've never heard of a school district that can force a parent to make their kid stay back a grade. They can only make strong recommendations... So once again, that's on the parent, if that's truly what the issue is. NOT THE ELEMENTARY TEACHER FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. Quote Link to comment
Warrior10 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Hopefully Jaylin doesn't give up, whether its this year or via JUCO. Best of wishes to him. Quote Link to comment
MinnwiscowaSker Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 To reply to that, I have taught at an extremely low socio-economic school. It's not hard for the teacher to say this kid should stay back, or this could should move up. It's hard to get the parent to agree. That's the hard part. The Teacher only "moves the kid up" because that's what the parent wants to do. I've never heard of a school district that can force a parent to make their kid stay back a grade. They can only make strong recommendations... So once again, that's on the parent, if that's truly what the issue is. NOT THE ELEMENTARY TEACHER FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. Dear God, Matty is leading our children... 3 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I haven't read the entire thread, but I used to date a 5th grade teacher working for a metro area school. She would tell me on average, she'd have 4-5 kids a year in her class of around 20 that read at a 1st or 2nd grade level. And because the process was so difficult to actually hold the kid back to work on his education, the kids would be moved up the next grade. So, I can see his point where his elementary school teachers failed him. However, it sounds like it's more a systematic issue where teachers feel it's too difficult to hold kids back to repeat a grade, and instead just push the kid to the next grade level. To reply to that, I have taught at an extremely low socio-economic school. It's not hard for the teacher to say this kid should stay back, or this could should move up. It's hard to get the parent to agree. That's the hard part. The Teacher only "moves the kid up" because that's what the parent wants to do. I've never heard of a school district that can force a parent to make their kid stay back a grade. They can only make strong recommendations... So once again, that's on the parent, if that's truly what the issue is. NOT THE ELEMENTARY TEACHER FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. Why would the parent have ultimate say in this? Quote Link to comment
Judoka Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 As I'm unfamiliar with his situation, what are the chances he gets the academic stuff cleared up? Potential preferred walk-on candidate? Or will he go JUCO? All the talk has been that if he gets his grades up, and gets a qualifying ACT score, he'll get a scholly. I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up at a Juco if Nebraska wants to stash him for a couple years. PS, those ideas always sound great, but can anyone name the last time it actually worked out that way? (Meaning, we stashed him at a JUCO and then they eventually ended up at Nebraska) Who was the kid that Pelini put at Iowa Western with the intent of bringing him back? It happened during the transition, and Riley passed on him. In a business sense, it at least lets the program get a look at a kid against competition that is a higher level than Class A football in Nebraska. That would be Vondrae Tostenson. Quote Link to comment
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