cm husker Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 So in other words, not really. Just an opinion craftily built towards giving all players carte blanche protection from disapproval. By the same token, then, can you prove there aren't playmakers already here? Nope. But as is the tendency with many here, the first instinct is to blame players before current coaches. Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 So in other words, not really. Just an opinion craftily built towards giving all players carte blanche protection from disapproval. By the same token, then, can you prove there aren't playmakers already here? Nope. But as is the tendency with many here, the first instinct is to blame players before current coaches. Of course I can't. I'm not idiotic enough to make claims like that. I also don't have a first instinct to blame players. I also don't have a first instinct to blame coaches. I observe things and I think about things and I form opinions that range all the way across the spectrum, and I guarantee that almost all of them are pretty uneducated, stupid, ignorant and clueless. Why you feel the need to do otherwise is very confusing to me. 2 Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Why do I feel the need to form opinions that aren't uneducated, stupid, ignorant or clueless? I think that's something everyone should strive for. Here are my opinions based on the information I have at hand: 1. Post season individual honors tend to flow from unit success more than intrinsic ability or even production 2. NU has historically (going back to the expansion of the conference to 12 teams) had about 5.8 defenders per season receive honors of some sort from the coaches. NU has 5 this year, which puts it not that far outside of the average. So, I don't think the lack of all-conference players tells us much about the talent level of the current team. Do you actually disagree with that statement or are you just looking to argue? P.s., if you're really just worried about people on a BBS having a strongly held opinion, why are you questioning me on mine rather than the 3 to 6 people who have used the subject matter of this thread to form an opinion that NU doesn't have the talent it needs to compete? Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Recruiting is like a cardboard box when you are a kid. It can be anything you want it to be, reality can suck it because I wanna be an astronaut today! Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I thought Bandares might have a shot at making All B1G Ten. Maybe second or third team. Guess not. : Quote Link to comment
4skers89 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 So in other words, not really. Just an opinion craftily built towards giving all players carte blanche protection from disapproval. By the same token, then, can you prove there aren't playmakers already here? Easy. Watch the OSU game. Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 So, I don't think the lack of all-conference players tells us much about the talent level of the current team. I don't either, which is why you don't see me making claims about our talent level. Quote Link to comment
AFhusker Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 2016 Total Defense #22 351 Yds/Game2016 Scoring Defense #30 22.8 Pts/GameSagarin SOS #552015 Total Defense #64 400.4 Yds/Game2015 Scoring Defense #76 27.8 Pts/GameSagarin SOS #492014 Total Defense #52 383.7 Yds/Game2014 Scoring Defense #59 26.4 Pts/GameSagarin SOS #612013 Total Defense #40 370.8 Yds/Game2013 Scoring Defense #50 24.8 Pts/GameSagarin SOS #552012 Total Defense #35 350.64 Yds/Game2012 Scoring Defense #58 27.57 pts/GameSagarin SOS #202011 Total Defense #37 350.69 Yds/Game2011 Scoring Defense #42 23.38 Yds/GameSagarin SOS #262010 Total Defense #11 306.79 Yds/Game2010 Scoring Defense #9 7.36 Pts/GameSagarin SOS #392009 Total Defense #7 272 Yds/Game2009 Scoring Defense #1 10.43 Yds/GameSagarin SOS #52 Quote Link to comment
Elf Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 2016 Total Defense #22 351 Yds/Game 2016 Scoring Defense #30 22.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #55 2015 Total Defense #64 400.4 Yds/Game 2015 Scoring Defense #76 27.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #49 2014 Total Defense #52 383.7 Yds/Game 2014 Scoring Defense #59 26.4 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #61 2013 Total Defense #40 370.8 Yds/Game 2013 Scoring Defense #50 24.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #55 2012 Total Defense #35 350.64 Yds/Game 2012 Scoring Defense #58 27.57 pts/Game Sagarin SOS #20 2011 Total Defense #37 350.69 Yds/Game 2011 Scoring Defense #42 23.38 Yds/Game Sagarin SOS #26 2010 Total Defense #11 306.79 Yds/Game 2010 Scoring Defense #9 7.36 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #39 2009 Total Defense #7 272 Yds/Game 2009 Scoring Defense #1 10.43 Yds/Game Sagarin SOS #52 So statistically, this has been our best defense since 2010? And we need to fire Banker? Quote Link to comment
Crashman44b Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 2016 Total Defense #22 351 Yds/Game 2016 Scoring Defense #30 22.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #55 2015 Total Defense #64 400.4 Yds/Game 2015 Scoring Defense #76 27.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #49 2014 Total Defense #52 383.7 Yds/Game 2014 Scoring Defense #59 26.4 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #61 2013 Total Defense #40 370.8 Yds/Game 2013 Scoring Defense #50 24.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #55 2012 Total Defense #35 350.64 Yds/Game 2012 Scoring Defense #58 27.57 pts/Game Sagarin SOS #20 2011 Total Defense #37 350.69 Yds/Game 2011 Scoring Defense #42 23.38 Yds/Game Sagarin SOS #26 2010 Total Defense #11 306.79 Yds/Game 2010 Scoring Defense #9 7.36 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #39 2009 Total Defense #7 272 Yds/Game 2009 Scoring Defense #1 10.43 Yds/Game Sagarin SOS #52 So statistically, this has been our best defense since 2010? And we need to fire Banker? Boyd Epley flat out said the football team was about 3 years behind the "boy bigs" in college football talent wise. If his talent evaluation system works which I assume it does, then Banker did a decent job. We are in a hole talent and depth wise due to the previous staff that I hope we can climb out of. The Ohio state game exposed it and the Iowa game confirmed it. Riley needs 2 more years. Took Ferentz 4 years to get the ball rolling and I'll give HCMR the same. 9-3 this year sure felt better then 9-3 with Blow Pelini. It's nice not to see a grown man acting like a juvenile delinquent on the side lines. And we're beat up.....we'll be a new team come bowl time. Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Read in context, that's not what epley said. Quote Link to comment
chamrocck Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 This is not surprising but irks me because we should do better on defense. We have the unique tradition that should attract more talent. I still have hope in recruiting. But this only validates why we are a good but not great team at this time. It makes our 9-3 respectable...we simply don't have the talent at this time. Who are guys we expect to be on this list in the top 3 all conference teams next year? I think Kalu and Jones can be pretty good next year. I like M. Newby. After that...not sure what we have with individual talent on defense? Freedom can ball but needs consistency with his play. Gosh, I am waiting for that kid or kids that just wants to come in here and own the Blackshirt tradition as his own. One of the best defensive brands in college football and only Suh has really done anything with it in recent years. We should have a stellar defender or two every year. Quote Link to comment
Count 'Bility Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 2016 Total Defense #22 351 Yds/Game 2016 Scoring Defense #30 22.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #55 2015 Total Defense #64 400.4 Yds/Game 2015 Scoring Defense #76 27.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #49 2014 Total Defense #52 383.7 Yds/Game 2014 Scoring Defense #59 26.4 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #61 2013 Total Defense #40 370.8 Yds/Game 2013 Scoring Defense #50 24.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #55 2012 Total Defense #35 350.64 Yds/Game 2012 Scoring Defense #58 27.57 pts/Game Sagarin SOS #20 2011 Total Defense #37 350.69 Yds/Game 2011 Scoring Defense #42 23.38 Yds/Game Sagarin SOS #26 2010 Total Defense #11 306.79 Yds/Game 2010 Scoring Defense #9 7.36 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #39 2009 Total Defense #7 272 Yds/Game 2009 Scoring Defense #1 10.43 Yds/Game Sagarin SOS #52 So statistically, this has been our best defense since 2010? And we need to fire Banker? Boyd Epley flat out said the football team was about 3 years behind the "boy bigs" in college football talent wise. If his talent evaluation system works which I assume it does, then Banker did a decent job. We are in a hole talent and depth wise due to the previous staff that I hope we can climb out of. The Ohio state game exposed it and the Iowa game confirmed it. Riley needs 2 more years. Took Ferentz 4 years to get the ball rolling and I'll give HCMR the same. 9-3 this year sure felt better then 9-3 with Blow Pelini. It's nice not to see a grown man acting like a juvenile delinquent on the side lines. And we're beat up.....we'll be a new team come bowl time. based on his curved athletic performance index, wasnt it that only 2 football players last winter tested better than any of our volleyball players? or something along those lines. I know our volleyball team is Alabamaish on the volleyball side of things, but it shows how far behind football actually is Again. we have talented players. But we're not an overly talented team. Quote Link to comment
Crashman44b Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 2016 Total Defense #22 351 Yds/Game 2016 Scoring Defense #30 22.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #55 2015 Total Defense #64 400.4 Yds/Game 2015 Scoring Defense #76 27.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #49 2014 Total Defense #52 383.7 Yds/Game 2014 Scoring Defense #59 26.4 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #61 2013 Total Defense #40 370.8 Yds/Game 2013 Scoring Defense #50 24.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #55 2012 Total Defense #35 350.64 Yds/Game 2012 Scoring Defense #58 27.57 pts/Game Sagarin SOS #20 2011 Total Defense #37 350.69 Yds/Game 2011 Scoring Defense #42 23.38 Yds/Game Sagarin SOS #26 2010 Total Defense #11 306.79 Yds/Game 2010 Scoring Defense #9 7.36 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #39 2009 Total Defense #7 272 Yds/Game 2009 Scoring Defense #1 10.43 Yds/Game Sagarin SOS #52 So statistically, this has been our best defense since 2010? And we need to fire Banker?Boyd Epley flat out said the football team was about 3 years behind the "boy bigs" in college football talent wise. If his talent evaluation system works which I assume it does, then Banker did a decent job. We are in a hole talent and depth wise due to the previous staff that I hope we can climb out of. The Ohio state game exposed it and the Iowa game confirmed it. Riley needs 2 more years. Took Ferentz 4 years to get the ball rolling and I'll give HCMR the same. 9-3 this year sure felt better then 9-3 with Blow Pelini. It's nice not to see a grown man acting like a juvenile delinquent on the side lines. And we're beat up.....we'll be a new team come bowl time. based on his curved athletic performance index, wasnt it that only 2 football players last winter tested better than any of our volleyball players? or something along those lines. I know our volleyball team is Alabamaish on the volleyball side of things, but it shows how far behind football actually is Again. we have talented players. But we're not an overly talented team. Epley said seven football players scored in the 1,700s. Twenty were at 900 or below. Epley said that 900 figure is a good benchmark for walk-ons. NU has a significant number over 1,500.-OWH Full link.... http://www.omaha.com/huskers/boyd-epley-brings-back-performance-index-weighs-in-on-husker/article_1a7c4940-a387-11e5-9643-0bc10d4a2c5d.html I bet the cream puffs are in the trenches. Somewhat concerning 20 players are under 900. The article doesn't specify if they're scholarship players are not. Quote Link to comment
Count 'Bility Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 2016 Total Defense #22 351 Yds/Game 2016 Scoring Defense #30 22.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #55 2015 Total Defense #64 400.4 Yds/Game 2015 Scoring Defense #76 27.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #49 2014 Total Defense #52 383.7 Yds/Game 2014 Scoring Defense #59 26.4 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #61 2013 Total Defense #40 370.8 Yds/Game 2013 Scoring Defense #50 24.8 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #55 2012 Total Defense #35 350.64 Yds/Game 2012 Scoring Defense #58 27.57 pts/Game Sagarin SOS #20 2011 Total Defense #37 350.69 Yds/Game 2011 Scoring Defense #42 23.38 Yds/Game Sagarin SOS #26 2010 Total Defense #11 306.79 Yds/Game 2010 Scoring Defense #9 7.36 Pts/Game Sagarin SOS #39 2009 Total Defense #7 272 Yds/Game 2009 Scoring Defense #1 10.43 Yds/Game Sagarin SOS #52 So statistically, this has been our best defense since 2010? And we need to fire Banker?Boyd Epley flat out said the football team was about 3 years behind the "boy bigs" in college football talent wise. If his talent evaluation system works which I assume it does, then Banker did a decent job. We are in a hole talent and depth wise due to the previous staff that I hope we can climb out of. The Ohio state game exposed it and the Iowa game confirmed it. Riley needs 2 more years. Took Ferentz 4 years to get the ball rolling and I'll give HCMR the same. 9-3 this year sure felt better then 9-3 with Blow Pelini. It's nice not to see a grown man acting like a juvenile delinquent on the side lines. And we're beat up.....we'll be a new team come bowl time. based on his curved athletic performance index, wasnt it that only 2 football players last winter tested better than any of our volleyball players? or something along those lines. I know our volleyball team is Alabamaish on the volleyball side of things, but it shows how far behind football actually is Again. we have talented players. But we're not an overly talented team. Epley said seven football players scored in the 1,700s. Twenty were at 900 or below. Epley said that 900 figure is a good benchmark for walk-ons. NU has a significant number over 1,500.-OWH Full link.... http://www.omaha.com/huskers/boyd-epley-brings-back-performance-index-weighs-in-on-husker/article_1a7c4940-a387-11e5-9643-0bc10d4a2c5d.html I bet the cream puffs are in the trenches. Somewhat concerning 20 players are under 900. The article doesn't specify if they're scholarship players are not. very good. thanks. I didnt know the exact numbers. And i dont have the ambition to look. I just remember there being a pretty glaring comparison to volleyball. Which again, isnt a knock cuz volleyball is a full speed freight train right now. But it showed how far off we from being at even a level we want to be. Quote Link to comment
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