Trump Foreign Policy

[BigRedBuster]

Yeah.....ISIS has been defeated.

 

 

[QMany]

30 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Yeah.....ISIS has been defeated.

 

 

[Danny Bateman]

3 hours ago, QMany said:

 

My first thought when I saw him tweet about it initially too.

[knapplc]

 

 

 

Good. No one person should have the power to dissolve alliances. 

 

Putin had to be salivating at the thought of a US withdrawal from the most powerful alliance in the world. He's gotta be loving the Trump Era.

[TGHusker]

15 hours ago, knapplc said:

 

 

 

Good. No one person should have the power to dissolve alliances. 

 

Putin had to be salivating at the thought of a US withdrawal from the most powerful alliance in the world. He's gotta be loving the Trump Era.

Putin devised, strategized  and paid for the Trump Era

[Moiraine]

Trump is meeting with Kim again. Because it worked so well last time.

[TGHusker]

This article is about the threat of Russian, Chinese, nor NK or Iran EMP bombs.   If factually true, I was surprised to find out that the USA does not

have any EMP bombs of its own.  Of course EMPs would be devastating to our electrical, digital world - our teenagers would not know what to do without being able to hash tag someone.  Seriously, the threat could be used against our military satellites besides our electrical grid.

 

A couple of questions:

1.  Have we as a country ignored this threat or have we hardened our electrical grid against such an attack?

2.  Where is this issue on your scale of threats?  Above or below nuclear war, above or above Trump's affect on America?

 

 

 

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-russia-building-super-emp-bombs-for-blackout-warfare/

[RedDenver]

7 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

This article is about the threat of Russian, Chinese, nor NK or Iran EMP bombs.   If factually true, I was surprised to find out that the USA does not

have any EMP bombs of its own.  Of course EMPs would be devastating to our electrical, digital world - our teenagers would not know what to do without being able to hash tag someone.  Seriously, the threat could be used against our military satellites besides our electrical grid.

 

A couple of questions:

1.  Have we as a country ignored this threat or have we hardened our electrical grid against such an attack?

2.  Where is this issue on your scale of threats?  Above or below nuclear war, above or above Trump's affect on America?

 

 

 

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-russia-building-super-emp-bombs-for-blackout-warfare/

Electronics can be hardened against EMP's, which most if not all of the military's equipment is and satellites are hardened even more since they are under constant bombardment of high energy particles and rays.

[Nebfanatic]

40 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Electronics can be hardened against EMP's, which most if not all of the military's equipment is and satellites are hardened even more since they are under constant bombardment of high energy particles and rays.

In my view the biggest concern is the electrical grids. Probably at a greater risk than government tech and has more effect on the average citizen. 

[Moiraine]

1 hour ago, TGHusker said:

A couple of questions:

1.  Have we as a country ignored this threat or have we hardened our electrical grid against such an attack?

2.  Where is this issue on your scale of threats?  Above or below nuclear war, above or above Trump's affect on America?

 

 

It would cripple us, but it would be less deadly and less permanently damaging than a nuclear attack.

[RedDenver]

3 hours ago, Nebfanatic said:

In my view the biggest concern is the electrical grids. Probably at a greater risk than government tech and has more effect on the average citizen. 

It would be disruptive for sure, but it'd be less than a lightning strike would do, so I suspect the grid would come back in hours or days. However, an EMP attack is an act of war, so it seems like a terrible idea since our military would do far, far worse to them in response.

[TGHusker]

14 hours ago, RedDenver said:

It would be disruptive for sure, but it'd be less than a lightning strike would do, so I suspect the grid would come back in hours or days. However, an EMP attack is an act of war, so it seems like a terrible idea since our military would do far, far worse to them in response.

So you don't see it as a multi month, year or 2 long no electricity event with millions dying because we've been ushered back to the stone ages.  That is how most alarmist paint an EMP attack.  Kind of like in War between the World - Tom Cruz gets in an old car from the 1970s as it was the only one operational since it wasn't full of computers and other digital electronics.

[BigRedBuster]

17 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

It would cripple us, but it would be less deadly and less permanently damaging than a nuclear attack.

 

14 hours ago, RedDenver said:

It would be disruptive for sure, but it'd be less than a lightning strike would do, so I suspect the grid would come back in hours or days. However, an EMP attack is an act of war, so it seems like a terrible idea since our military would do far, far worse to them in response.

 

This only depends on how long the outage would be.  Think of all the people on life support systems who need electricity of some type to simply survive.  Most major hospitals have generators.  However, if long enough, it would disrupt our entire economic structure.  If that is disrupted, so is the flow of other types of fuels, services and goods (food).  

[RedDenver]

21 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

So you don't see it as a multi month, year or 2 long no electricity event with millions dying because we've been ushered back to the stone ages.  That is how most alarmist paint an EMP attack.  Kind of like in War between the World - Tom Cruz gets in an old car from the 1970s as it was the only one operational since it wasn't full of computers and other digital electronics.

 

2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

This only depends on how long the outage would be.  Think of all the people on life support systems who need electricity of some type to simply survive.  Most major hospitals have generators.  However, if long enough, it would disrupt our entire economic structure.  If that is disrupted, so is the flow of other types of fuels, services and goods (food).  

 

I see an EMP attack (which would require many EMP's to take out any significant portion of the grid as the power decreases with the cube of the distance or would require detonating a megaton nuclear device which would result in a nuclear retaliatory response from the US) as being similar to a hurricane or other natural disaster that destroys infrastructure. And the EMP wouldn't take down power lines like a storm can - the damage would be more centralized. (And would be mostly limited to electronics as most analog systems like transformers, power lines, circuit breakers, etc. wouldn't be damaged except by nuclear EMP's.) The power companies (and the government including FEMA, the military, national guard, etc.) would then start fixing things. It might take months in some places, but more like days in most places is what I expect.

 

Yes, it would be devastating, but not like a nuclear attack or other sustained conventional bombing attacks would be, which is why an EMP attack against the US is dumb. The US military would be unaffected and would retaliate with physically destroying the infrastructure and military power of the attacker, which will be LOTS more things than just electronics and power grid. And that's assuming the US doesn't respond with a nuclear attack.

 

P.S. Additionally, an EMP is defeated (or strongly minimized) with a Faraday cage. If we're really worried, then we could put a metal cage around sensitive infrastructure (like a server rack could protect the servers inside). And many buildings with metal roofs, metal siding, or closely spaced metal rebar in the concrete will act as a Faraday cage and limit the effectiveness.

[knapplc]

 

Trump is looking for a winnable little war before the next election. Just wait.