Trump Foreign Policy

[RedDenver]

10 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

 

Highlighting another reason the Republican party is trash. They would be losing their mother effing minds right now if a Democratic president did this.

They'd be losing their minds even if the only thing done was the nepotism of the President appointing his own family into positions in the government.

[BigRedBuster]

Just a guess here, but I'm assuming they aren't going to be voting for Trump.

 

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

 

 

Remember when Obama bowed slightly to a world leader, and Fox lost its s#!t?

 

The body language and mouth-spewing language Donald Trump shows this novice dictator is stunning.

 

Kim Jong-Un effusively flattered Trump and got everything he wanted.

 

It's that simple.

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

 

This guy is an idiot. 

[Danny Bateman]

On 3/2/2019 at 9:37 AM, BigRedBuster said:

This guy is an idiot. 

 

I think perhaps the most damning trait about Trump, beyond the rampant dishonesty and general ignorance and intellectual laziness, is how the buck always stops with someone else.

[TGHusker]

Pence and Dick Cheney arguing over foreign policy.  Cheney calling Trump's FP as to 'Obama  like'  wt decisions being made while on the phone or overnight without consultation.

Some interesting batter going back and worth

 

https://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/Former-vice-president-Cheney-challenges-Pence-on-13680278.php
 

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Cheney also worried aloud to Pence that "we're getting into a situation when our friends and allies around the world that we depend upon are going to lack confidence in us," and then offered a blunt criticism of the current administration's response to foreign policy challenges.

 

"I worry that the bottom line of that kind of an approach is we have an administration that looks a lot more like Barack Obama than Ronald Reagan," he said.

 

 

 

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Pence also found himself responding to Cheney's questions about Trump's occasionally hostile posture toward NATO, which Cheney said "feeds this notion on the part of our allies overseas, especially in NATO, that we're not long for that continued relationship, that we're looking eagerly to find ways where somebody else will pick up the tab."

The resulting impression, at least publicly, Cheney warned, is that "the decision gets made overnight or it gets made oftentimes without consulting anybody else - that he's out there doing his thing."

"Well, who wrote these softball questions?" Pence joked, a nod to the unexpected - and tough - tenor of Cheney's line of query.

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

Ok, as Secretary of State, his answer isn’t out of line. 

 

Problem is, I don’t see any of his top five that aren’t worse since trump took office. 

 

 

[Danny Bateman]

Not really someone we should be cozying up to. And yet, we are.

 

 

[TGHusker]

Ok, so we are going to out source space related jobs to Brazil - how does that fit the MAGA program of bring all jobs and industries back to the USA.   I understand the reasoning from

an expense perspective - but how does this differ from countries moving factories to SE Asia and Mexico because labor rates are lower.  Space companies want to save fuel expenses and car, shoe companies, etc want to save on labor expenses.  So will Trump yell at Space X when it moves launches from Florida to Brazil    Seems to be a bit inconsistent here.

 

 

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/19/trump-brazil-an-ideal-launch-location-for-us-rockets.html

 

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The U.S. signed an agreement that would allow American rocket companies to operate from Brazil, possibly unlocking a operations base that has sat dormant for many years, the State Department said Tuesday.

a $260 billion business. That's because missions from the equator region often require less fuel.

"After 20 years of talks we are finalizing a technology safeguards agreement to allow U.S. companies to conduct space launches from Brazil," President Donald Trump said Tuesday at a press conference with Brazil's President Jair Bolsonaro. "Because of the location, tremendous amounts of money would be saved."

Alcantara has also drawn recent interest from U.S. space companies. CNBC has reported that in December 2017, representatives for five rocket companies visited the base, including Boeing, Lockheed Martin, SpaceX, Vector and Microcosm. While SpaceX did not share a continued interest in the Brazilian launchpad, and Microcosm could not be reached for comment, the other three companies were still considering the Alcantara option.

"Put very simply, the flights are a lot shorter," Trump said. "Brazil's proximity to the equator makes it an ideal launch location."

A launch from a latitude much farther north — such as NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida or Vandenberg Air Force Base in California — requires rockets to change direction so satellites can reach the equator. The same satellites launched from Alcantara would save as much as 20 percent to 30 percent in fuel, analysts estimate.

 

 

[funhusker]

22 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

Ok, so we are going to out source space related jobs to Brazil - how does that fit the MAGA program of bring all jobs and industries back to the USA.   I understand the reasoning from

an expense perspective - but how does this differ from countries moving factories to SE Asia and Mexico because labor rates are lower.  Space companies want to save fuel expenses and car, shoe companies, etc want to save on labor expenses.  So will Trump yell at Space X when it moves launches from Florida to Brazil    Seems to be a bit inconsistent here.

 

 

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/19/trump-brazil-an-ideal-launch-location-for-us-rockets.html

 

 

I think it is promising that Trump is actually citing science in a policy decision.  It also shows that space travel and technology should be an international endeavor.

[TGHusker]

19 minutes ago, funhusker said:

I think it is promising that Trump is actually citing science in a policy decision.  It also shows that space travel and technology should be an international endeavor.

good points.  This should and could be a opportunity for greater cooperation among nations with also the principle of banning the use of space for space launched weapons. 

[Danny Bateman]

Apparently MegaMind wants a little bit more time to work out a peace deal with the North Koreans.

 

This continues to be bad foreign policy. They're continuing to stockpile weapon hidden in plain sight and we're doing nothing about it.

 

 

 

 

[commando]

2 hours ago, Danny Bateman said:

Apparently MegaMind wants a little bit more time to work out a peace deal with the North Koreans.

 

This continues to be bad foreign policy. They're continuing to stockpile weapon hidden in plain sight and we're doing nothing about it.

 

 

 

 

what's really odd is that the treasury didn't announce any new sanctions on N. Korea today....but trump ordered their withdrawal anyway.   

[knapplc]

 

 

[Moiraine]

3 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

 

 

 

 

He is so dumb it’s hard to believe this is real life.