The Right-Wing Disinformation Machine

[Danny Bateman]

On 4/27/2022 at 12:34 PM, knapplc said:

 

It hits a sore spot because one million Americans died from Covid, many of them because of misinformation like the nonsense about ivermectin. 

 

How can people not care about that? That's baffling.

 

For those who work in the medical field, it's frustrating to have the layperson do their own "research" and decide the trust word-of-mouth hearsay, blog posts and evidence-free crap pushed by zealots and alternative "medicine" enthusiasts more than the advice of people who have made a career of knowing their s#!t and being entrusted to shepherd public health.

 

Here's an article on "pereneum sunning" (or tanning your bunghole). Wellness gurus claim it improves energy, promotes better hygiene and regulates hormones, despite the lack of any rigorous evidence. And exposing your digestive system to direct sunlight seems like a quick way to damage a sensitive organ.

 

Medicine IS and SHOULD BE evidence-based for a reason. Otherwise we're just guessing, throwing treatment darts at a diagnosis dartboard and convincing ourselves things work with a massive dose of placebo effect.

 

As a concrete example, Steve Jobs thought alternative remedies would fix his cancer. Steve Jobs is dead now.

[Redux]

1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

Not sure I understand your sentence.  But, it is horse medicine.  Amazingly, some people still think it kills Covid.

 

You do understand, and you know there are different iterations of the medecine used to treat both human and animal.  And there are ongoing studies to gage the effectiveness of ivermectin against covid.  Amazingly, some people still pretend to not know this.

[BigRedBuster]

2 hours ago, Redux said:

 

You do understand, and you know there are different iterations of the medecine used to treat both human and animal.  And there are ongoing studies to gage the effectiveness of ivermectin against covid.  Amazingly, some people still pretend to not know this.

Of course there is human ivermectin and I’ve said so on this board in the last couple days. 
 

However, there has yet to be a valid research study that I’ve seen that proves an anti-parasite drug treats a virus. 
 

So, for now, it’s nothing more than a scam from people who claim it does. 

[Redux]

10 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Of course there is human ivermectin and I’ve said so on this board in the last couple days. 
 

However, there has yet to be a valid research study that I’ve seen that proves an anti-parasite drug treats a virus. 
 

So, for now, it’s nothing more than a scam from people who claim it does. 

 

So why keep only saying it's horse medecine, that's inaccurate.  That's the same thing CNN would do.  And the same data you're using, which is a lack thereof, doesn't suggest that Ivermectin would harm a person either.  So why wouldn't someone want to take it as an off label use for Covid since many have found it to be a valuable treatment?

[BigRedBuster]

3 minutes ago, Redux said:

 

So why keep only saying it's horse medecine, that's inaccurate.  That's the same thing CNN would do.  And the same data you're using, which is a lack thereof, doesn't suggest that Ivermectin would harm a person either.  So why wouldn't someone want to take it as an off label use for Covid since many have found it to be a valuable treatment?

Because it is a horse medicine. I’ve acknowledged multiple times there is a human version. But, the vast majority is sold for horses and other livestock. 
 

There have been idiots actually buying the horse version thinking eating that will save them. 
 

And, your last question is just BS. There is not one valid study showing it has any affect on Covid even though some idiots believe it does. 
 

The manufacturer even acknowledges this. 

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5 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Because it is a horse medicine. I’ve acknowledged multiple times there is a human version. But, the vast majority is sold for horses and other livestock. 
 

There have been idiots actually buying the horse version thinking eating that will save them. 
 

And, your last question is just BS. There is not one valid study showing it has any affect on Covid even though some idiots believe it does. 
 

The manufacturer even acknowledges this. 

 

But you're specifically calling it horse medecine and omitting that it's also a people drug.  And the people drug is the version PEOPLE take.  Only morons take animal medecine (happens on farms more than you think with other drugs and WAAAAAYYYYYYYY before Covid).  That's a glorified media headline that isn't nearly as accurate as you seem to think.

 

Oh there absolutely are.  But those doctors have been deemed dangerous.  Robert Malone has plenty to say on that, not that you'd listen to him anyway.  You made up your mind and are comfortable spinning yarn calling it horse medecine instead of being honest.  You do you.

[BigRedBuster]

43 minutes ago, Redux said:

 

But you're specifically calling it horse medecine and omitting that it's also a people drug.  And the people drug is the version PEOPLE take.  Only morons take animal medecine (happens on farms more than you think with other drugs and WAAAAAYYYYYYYY before Covid).  That's a glorified media headline that isn't nearly as accurate as you seem to think.

 

Oh there absolutely are.  But those doctors have been deemed dangerous.  Robert Malone has plenty to say on that, not that you'd listen to him anyway.  You made up your mind and are comfortable spinning yarn calling it horse medecine instead of being honest.  You do you.

Oh...OK.

 

And, I'm fine calling that Dr. a quack on this subject.

[Born N Bled Red]

 

Except you are conveniently forgetting the run on the the livestock medicine, and the news stories of TSC, Fleet N Farm, and other livestock supply houses being sold out of Ivomec. 

 

And, it doesn't work.. 

[teachercd]

15 hours ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

For those who work in the medical field, it's frustrating to have the layperson do their own "research" and decide the trust word-of-mouth hearsay, blog posts and evidence-free crap pushed by zealots and alternative "medicine" enthusiasts more than the advice of people who have made a career of knowing their s#!t and being entrusted to shepherd public health.

 

Here's an article on "pereneum sunning" (or tanning your bunghole). Wellness gurus claim it improves energy, promotes better hygiene and regulates hormones. And exposing your digestive system to direct sunlight seems like a quick way to damage a sensitive organ.

 

Medicine IS and SHOULD BE evidence-based for a reason. Otherwise we're just guessing, throwing treatment darts at a diagnosis dartboard and convincing ourselves things work with a massive dose of placebo effect.

 

As a concrete example, Steve Jobs thought alternative remedies would fix his cancer. Steve Jobs is dead now.

Sounds like you are saying that people should leave things to the experts in those fields?

 

I agree!  Yet we have so many people that think they "know more" than people that do that job everyday. 

[Redux]

55 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Oh...OK.

 

And, I'm fine calling that Dr. a quack on this subject.

 

Lol, see

[Scarlet]

2 hours ago, Redux said:

 

Lol, see

Can you post an actual peer reviewed, double blind placebo study showing ivermectin is effective is the prevention and/or treatment of COVID-19?

 

Thanks.  I'll wait.

[Redux]

3 hours ago, Scarlet said:

Can you post an actual peer reviewed, double blind placebo study showing ivermectin is effective is the prevention and/or treatment of COVID-19?

 

Thanks.  I'll wait.

 

Can you post one that shows it's not?

 

What a ridiculous thing to say 

Spoiler

 

[BigRedBuster]

I believe Scotch and a cigar kills Covid.  I can't find any research saying it doesn't.  So....it must be true.

[DevoHusker]

3 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

I believe Scotch and a cigar kills Covid.  I can't find any research saying it doesn't.  So....it must be true.

That'd be a lot more fun

[Scarlet]

 

1 hour ago, Redux said:

 

Can you post one that shows it's not?

 

What a ridiculous thing to say 

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Nah, a ridiculous thing to say is that something prevents or cures an illness without any scientific evidence whatsoever for such claim.  It's even more ridiculous when the most recent studies show that it's entirely ineffective.  Then even more ridiculous is to double down when asked to provide any studies you may have been getting your information from and you present..... nothing.   

 

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869

 

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Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of Covid-19 or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of Covid-19.

 

So do you have anything?