LumberJackSker Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 If Trump is as rich as he says he is couldn't he just pay for the wall himself? 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Lindsey Graham: "If we undercut the president, that’s the end of his presidency and the end of our party." If standing up to Trump means it's the end of the party, maybe the party should end. 4 Link to comment
Oade Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 8 hours ago, LumberJackSker said: If Trump is as rich as he says he is couldn't he just pay for the wall himself? Oh man, can you imagine the Hitler/Stalin comparisons if he did personally fund the wall?? "He is so racist that he basically funded the entire thing himself!! Blahhh!" I'm not sure of how much free cash flow Trump (or anyone) has sitting in their bank account, but it would be cool if he donated his Presidential income toward the Go Fund Me thing for a month or two. Link to comment
Ulty Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Moiraine said: Lindsey Graham: "If we undercut the president, that’s the end of his presidency and the end of our party." If standing up to Trump means it's the end of the party, maybe the party should end. IMO, the end of their party occurred in 2016 when they allowed him to hijack the party and toss all of their supposed values out the window. It is a slow, kicking-and-screaming end that will hurt everyone along the way, but the eventual end nonetheless. 1 Link to comment
Ulty Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I think the issue with the wall is more about who is funding it. It doesn't matter if Mexico pays for it, or the taxpayers. There are other principles at stake, such as the idea of this wall being irrational and ineffective, a symbol of fear-mongering and racism, and the fight over it being so childish and unpresidential. If it was really about funding, finding $5 billion for a pet project is not that big of a deal in the whole scheme of things for an annual budget that tops $4 Trillion. 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 He doesn’t even need to lie about doing something bigger than anyone else. Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 This guy has been a Republican Representative in the House for 15 years. 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 7 hours ago, knapplc said: This guy has been a Republican Representative in the House for 15 years. What is wrong with Iowa? Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 "Speaker (Nancy) Pelosi's refusal to negotiate on funding for a border wall/barrier -- even if the government were to be reopened -- virtually ends the congressional path to funding for a border wall/barrier," Graham said in a statement. "It is time for President Trump to use emergency powers to fund the construction of a border wall/barrier." I think Graham is worse than Trump for enabling him. Emergency funds should be used for emergencies. People with lower crime rates in America than Americans are not an emergency. They may not even be a negative. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 57 minutes ago, Moiraine said: What is wrong with Iowa? How much time have you got? 1 2 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Moiraine said: "Speaker (Nancy) Pelosi's refusal to negotiate on funding for a border wall/barrier -- even if the government were to be reopened -- virtually ends the congressional path to funding for a border wall/barrier," Graham said in a statement. "It is time for President Trump to use emergency powers to fund the construction of a border wall/barrier." I think Graham is worse than Trump for enabling him. Emergency funds should be used for emergencies. People with lower crime rates in America than Americans are not an emergency. They may not even be a negative. WTF?!? Hey Graham, the Senate voted 100-0 to fund the budget and not the wall. 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Moiraine said: What is wrong with Iowa? I lived in his district growing up. He’s only really been super open with his views for the past couple election cycles... gee, I wonder what changed? Anywho, I’ll tell you that district is overwhelmingly rural and white and cultural conservatism runs deep in that neck of the woods. To the point of a lot of them don’t hear about or outright look the other way at his awful views and vote for the R. 2 Link to comment
wiby_NU Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Clifford Franklin said: I lived in his district growing up. He’s only really been super open with his views for the past couple election cycles... gee, I wonder what changed? Anywho, I’ll tell you that district is overwhelmingly rural and white and cultural conservatism runs deep in that neck of the woods. To the point of a lot of them don’t hear about or outright look the other way at his awful views and vote for the R. I currently live in this district and in a rural community. Your points are spot on. This is a place where people still openly drop racial slurs and talk about minorities like they are the plague without any backlash. I’ve lived in many rural areas throughout the Midwest. This is by far the most pro-trump/racist I have ever been around. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Now this is getting serious. Link to comment
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