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Trump has said and done some really really stupid things in the election and since he has taken office. However, I'm surprised there is a rise in attacks and threats towards Jewish people and places. Of all the religions or races that have been in the news, I have to say he has said more pro jewish things than anything. After all....how many times have we been told his son in law is Jewish.

 

I'm struggling to see where these disgusting people are all of a sudden feel emboldened to attack jewish people at this high of rate.

 

Trump embraced the white racists in America. He gladly accepted endorsements from the kkk and practically all other white nationalist hate groups.

 

He removed white hate groups from the list classifying them as terrorist organizations.

 

So even though he may not necessarily hold anti-LBGTQIA or Jewish sentiments: a large percentage of his supporters do.

 

When Trump stands by and does nothing to stop the bigotry and hatred, it emboldens the racists and bigots. Silence is equal to complicity and guilt.

 

No he didn't

 

No he didn't

 

Probably

 

Definitely.

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Trump has said and done some really really stupid things in the election and since he has taken office. However, I'm surprised there is a rise in attacks and threats towards Jewish people and places. Of all the religions or races that have been in the news, I have to say he has said more pro jewish things than anything. After all....how many times have we been told his son in law is Jewish.

 

I'm struggling to see where these disgusting people are all of a sudden feel emboldened to attack jewish people at this high of rate.

 

Trump embraced the white racists in America. He gladly accepted endorsements from the kkk and practically all other white nationalist hate groups.

 

He removed white hate groups from the list classifying them as terrorist organizations.

 

So even though he may not necessarily hold anti-LBGTQIA or Jewish sentiments: a large percentage of his supporters do.

 

When Trump stands by and does nothing to stop the bigotry and hatred, it emboldens the racists and bigots. Silence is equal to complicity and guilt.

 

No he didn't

 

No he didn't.

 

Probably

 

Definitely.

 

Yes he did. His silence up until recently on this issue is the exact same as out-right support of hate groups. And Trump's very recent "denouncing" of anti-Semitism was about as sincere and genuine as an apology from Mel Gibson (who is also an anti-Semetic loon) .

 

He's actively pushing to have white nationalist hate groups removed from terror watch lists:

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-extremists-program-exclusiv-idUSKBN15G5VO?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5892aff004d3012ade6d4b39

 

We agree on #3 and #4.

 

Edited in commentary after I posted: If Trump truly wants to NOT be viewed as a racist, hate-monger, he needs to:

 

a) fire Steve Bannon immediately,

b) replace Jeff Sessions with a more moderate Attorney General who believes all Americans should have equal rights, and

c) re-establish Obama's civil protections for people in employment, housing, schools, medical care, etc.

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Trump has said and done some really really stupid things in the election and since he has taken office. However, I'm surprised there is a rise in attacks and threats towards Jewish people and places. Of all the religions or races that have been in the news, I have to say he has said more pro jewish things than anything. After all....how many times have we been told his son in law is Jewish.

 

I'm struggling to see where these disgusting people are all of a sudden feel emboldened to attack jewish people at this high of rate.

 

Trump embraced the white racists in America. He gladly accepted endorsements from the kkk and practically all other white nationalist hate groups.

 

He removed white hate groups from the list classifying them as terrorist organizations.

 

So even though he may not necessarily hold anti-LBGTQIA or Jewish sentiments: a large percentage of his supporters do.

 

When Trump stands by and does nothing to stop the bigotry and hatred, it emboldens the racists and bigots. Silence is equal to complicity and guilt.

 

No he didn't

 

No he didn't.

 

Probably

 

Definitely.

 

Yes he did. His silence up until recently on this issue is the exact same as out-right support of hate groups. And Trump's very recent "denouncing" of anti-Semitism was about as sincere and genuine as an apology from Mel Gibson (who is also an anti-Semetic loon) .

 

He's actively pushing to have white nationalist hate groups removed from terror watch lists:

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-extremists-program-exclusiv-idUSKBN15G5VO?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5892aff004d3012ade6d4b39

 

We agree on #3 and #4.

 

Question.....what would he have to say to change your mind about the bolded?

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Trump has said and done some really really stupid things in the election and since he has taken office. However, I'm surprised there is a rise in attacks and threats towards Jewish people and places. Of all the religions or races that have been in the news, I have to say he has said more pro jewish things than anything. After all....how many times have we been told his son in law is Jewish.

 

I'm struggling to see where these disgusting people are all of a sudden feel emboldened to attack jewish people at this high of rate.

 

Trump embraced the white racists in America. He gladly accepted endorsements from the kkk and practically all other white nationalist hate groups.

 

He removed white hate groups from the list classifying them as terrorist organizations.

 

So even though he may not necessarily hold anti-LBGTQIA or Jewish sentiments: a large percentage of his supporters do.

 

When Trump stands by and does nothing to stop the bigotry and hatred, it emboldens the racists and bigots. Silence is equal to complicity and guilt.

 

No he didn't

 

No he didn't.

 

Probably

 

Definitely.

 

Yes he did. His silence up until recently on this issue is the exact same as out-right support of hate groups. And Trump's very recent "denouncing" of anti-Semitism was about as sincere and genuine as an apology from Mel Gibson (who is also an anti-Semetic loon) .

 

He's actively pushing to have white nationalist hate groups removed from terror watch lists:

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-extremists-program-exclusiv-idUSKBN15G5VO?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5892aff004d3012ade6d4b39

 

We agree on #3 and #4.

 

He didn't gladly accept endorsements from those groups. Perhaps he didn't denounce them in a matter that is fitting to everyone but it what difference does it make? They were going to vote for him either way.

 

Your Reuters article was deemed factually inaccurate by Snopes. Plus, that only involves DHS. FBI would still have their own watch list and it includes white supremacists.

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Trump has said and done some really really stupid things in the election and since he has taken office. However, I'm surprised there is a rise in attacks and threats towards Jewish people and places. Of all the religions or races that have been in the news, I have to say he has said more pro jewish things than anything. After all....how many times have we been told his son in law is Jewish.

 

I'm struggling to see where these disgusting people are all of a sudden feel emboldened to attack jewish people at this high of rate.

 

Trump embraced the white racists in America. He gladly accepted endorsements from the kkk and practically all other white nationalist hate groups.

 

He removed white hate groups from the list classifying them as terrorist organizations.

 

So even though he may not necessarily hold anti-LBGTQIA or Jewish sentiments: a large percentage of his supporters do.

 

When Trump stands by and does nothing to stop the bigotry and hatred, it emboldens the racists and bigots. Silence is equal to complicity and guilt.

 

No he didn't

 

No he didn't.

 

Probably

 

Definitely.

 

Yes he did. His silence up until recently on this issue is the exact same as out-right support of hate groups. And Trump's very recent "denouncing" of anti-Semitism was about as sincere and genuine as an apology from Mel Gibson (who is also an anti-Semetic loon) .

 

He's actively pushing to have white nationalist hate groups removed from terror watch lists:

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-extremists-program-exclusiv-idUSKBN15G5VO?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5892aff004d3012ade6d4b39

 

We agree on #3 and #4.

 

Question.....what would he have to say to change your mind about the bolded?

 

Actually, it's what he could do: fire Steve Bannon and Jeff Sessions immediately.

 

Then, replace them with people who are more moderate, who believe everyone in America should have equal rights and protections under the law.

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Trump has said and done some really really stupid things in the election and since he has taken office. However, I'm surprised there is a rise in attacks and threats towards Jewish people and places. Of all the religions or races that have been in the news, I have to say he has said more pro jewish things than anything. After all....how many times have we been told his son in law is Jewish.

 

I'm struggling to see where these disgusting people are all of a sudden feel emboldened to attack jewish people at this high of rate.

 

Trump embraced the white racists in America. He gladly accepted endorsements from the kkk and practically all other white nationalist hate groups.

 

He removed white hate groups from the list classifying them as terrorist organizations.

 

So even though he may not necessarily hold anti-LBGTQIA or Jewish sentiments: a large percentage of his supporters do.

 

When Trump stands by and does nothing to stop the bigotry and hatred, it emboldens the racists and bigots. Silence is equal to complicity and guilt.

 

No he didn't

 

No he didn't.

 

Probably

 

Definitely.

 

Yes he did. His silence up until recently on this issue is the exact same as out-right support of hate groups. And Trump's very recent "denouncing" of anti-Semitism was about as sincere and genuine as an apology from Mel Gibson (who is also an anti-Semetic loon) .

 

He's actively pushing to have white nationalist hate groups removed from terror watch lists:

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-extremists-program-exclusiv-idUSKBN15G5VO?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5892aff004d3012ade6d4b39

 

We agree on #3 and #4.

 

He didn't gladly accept endorsements from those groups. Perhaps he didn't denounce them in a matter that is fitting to everyone but it what difference does it make? They were going to vote for him either way.

 

Your Reuters article was deemed factually inaccurate by Snopes. Plus, that only involves DHS. FBI would still have their own watch list and it includes white supremacists.

 

Given Trump's campaign rhetoric and actions since being elected, I think the part in red is a push.

 

And no hate groups wouldn't necessarily have voted for him. If he'd a been a decent human being and denounced their racism, bigotry, and intolerance from the start.

 

Oh, and Trump has zero credibility when he says he's not a racist bigot. He hired two of the most disgusting, racist, and vile people to be major parts of his administration: Sessions and Bannon.

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Trump saying or doing anything now wouldn't change my mind about him. It would actually appear more disingenuous. He has shown who he is and what he's about. It's not going to change because he says something or picks different people after the fact.

I disagree.

 

It is one thing to make a bad decision based on bad/faulty information--can happen to anyone.

 

But to stick with that bad decision, regardless of the ramifications, is irresponsible at best. Not to mention that anti-Semitic attacks are happening even more frequently and out in the open. Trump's actions are making racists much bolder. And Trump owes it to the American people to change course. He won't, because deep down he's every bit the hate-monger he's made out to be.

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-vote-down-attempt-to-force-debate-on-trump-russia-allegations/ar-AAnErWn?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

 

The republicans in congress, particularly the house of representatives, are doing everything they can to cover up Trump's ties to Russia.

 

I know there was a republican who "urged" Jeff Sessions to continue investigations into wrong-doing according to the article I linked to.

 

But come on, does anyone seriously believe Jeff Sessions will do his job if it means bringing Trump down?

 

Republicans are trying their best to bury this Russia investigation and make sure nothing comes of it.

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A response to the Republican claim that the protesters are paid agitators:

Town hall demonstrations: Are protesters being paid to attend?

Stories about paid protesters fabricated

Regarding claims that anti-Trump demonstrations are filled with “paid protesters,” here are the people I personally know who have been protesting, besides myself (a technical writer): my sister (marketing director), my aunts (a paralegal, an animal welfare worker), my husband (technical writer), my sons, nieces and nephew (students), friends (a Realtor, an artist, a retired judge, a reading specialist, a retiree).

None of us are professionals. None of us have been paid. Almost none of us have ever protested before. We are speaking out now because we are worried and afraid. Donald Trump’s values are not our values.

As our representatives, (and, yes, if we live in their districts, they represent us, even if we didn’t vote for them), their jobs are not to dismiss us with lies about who we are. Their jobs are to listen to us. And we will keep speaking out until they do.

Shelley Spisak

 

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A response to the Republican claim that the protesters are paid agitators:

 

 

Town hall demonstrations: Are protesters being paid to attend?

 

Stories about paid protesters fabricated

 

Regarding claims that anti-Trump demonstrations are filled with “paid protesters,” here are the people I personally know who have been protesting, besides myself (a technical writer): my sister (marketing director), my aunts (a paralegal, an animal welfare worker), my husband (technical writer), my sons, nieces and nephew (students), friends (a Realtor, an artist, a retired judge, a reading specialist, a retiree).

 

None of us are professionals. None of us have been paid. Almost none of us have ever protested before. We are speaking out now because we are worried and afraid. Donald Trump’s values are not our values.

 

As our representatives, (and, yes, if we live in their districts, they represent us, even if we didn’t vote for them), their jobs are not to dismiss us with lies about who we are. Their jobs are to listen to us. And we will keep speaking out until they do.

 

Shelley Spisak

 

 

 

Counter-point:

 

Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin (dang is that fun to say) sends his constituents a cease-and-desist letter.

 

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A response to the Republican claim that the protesters are paid agitators:

 

 

Town hall demonstrations: Are protesters being paid to attend?

 

Stories about paid protesters fabricated

 

Regarding claims that anti-Trump demonstrations are filled with “paid protesters,” here are the people I personally know who have been protesting, besides myself (a technical writer): my sister (marketing director), my aunts (a paralegal, an animal welfare worker), my husband (technical writer), my sons, nieces and nephew (students), friends (a Realtor, an artist, a retired judge, a reading specialist, a retiree).

 

None of us are professionals. None of us have been paid. Almost none of us have ever protested before. We are speaking out now because we are worried and afraid. Donald Trump’s values are not our values.

 

As our representatives, (and, yes, if we live in their districts, they represent us, even if we didn’t vote for them), their jobs are not to dismiss us with lies about who we are. Their jobs are to listen to us. And we will keep speaking out until they do.

 

Shelley Spisak

 

 

 

Counter-point:

 

Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin (dang is that fun to say) sends his constituents a cease-and-desist letter.

 

 

the elitists slob doesn't need to talk to the people he represents.

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On the face of it, that looks pretty bad from the Senator's office. But I'd like to know how civil this guy's interactions with the Senator's staff have been before totally throwing the Senator under the bus.

 

The bar is high for the Senator's office to show that this guy is such a distraction and/or danger that they have to bar him from contact.

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