knapplc Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 Trump, apparently, advocating for Islam to be taught in American schools. No, thank you. 1 Link to comment
zoogs Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 There's a certain vision for America that is only possible if the state sponsors the indoctrination of future generations with our preferred religion. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Ryan's excuse for Trump's interactions with Comey is that he's "New at this." Why didn't Clinton get the same defense? Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 This is not a defense of Ryan's absurd statement, but you can't possibly use that excuse with Clinton. After 20+ years in public office, she's not remotely new to the rules of the game. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 This is not a defense of Ryan's absurd statement, but you can't possibly use that excuse with Clinton. After 20+ years in public office, she's not remotely new to the rules of the game.I totally can and it's not wrong. The claim that Trump was ignorant about it being okay to ask the FBI to stop investigating his friend is not anymore believable than the claim that Clinton was ignorant to the dangers of using a personal email server. The claim about her wouldn't be about being ignorant of checks and balances. It's easy to say everyone her age is "new to this" when it comes to that kind of thing. 1 Link to comment
zoogs Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Jalopnik: Why Kushner's Russia Back Channel Looks "Dirty as Hell" http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/why-kushners-russian-back-channel-looks-dirty-as-hell-1795855952 In the world of U.S. diplomacy, back channels of communication between governments exist for various reasons. But they are more regulated than you may think. Though, it appears that President Trump’s son-in-law ’s meeting with the Russian ambassador at Trump Tower was anything but regulated. And his actions weren’t just suspicious to the average person. Experts who held diplomatic positions with top-secret clearance said all of this looks very bad for Jared Kushner. This is pretty bad. On the one hand, Hillary was careless and flout-the-rules secretive. On the other hand, we have people who quite seriously have bad intent -- not because they're paranoid about record-keeping but actually to go under the nose of the U.S.'s own security services in order to sidle up to foreign powers inappropriately. The same Republicans who put on their serious "concerned citizen" faces to try to bring the house down on Hillary are now coming up with every manner of excuse, explanation, and whataboutism for Kushner, Flynn, and Trump himself. And these are the sane voices, supposedly, in the building. Lindsey Graham? John McCain? Those are the Republicans' stalwart anti-Russia mavericks of the day. If this is what we get out of Republican leadership then rule of law has already lost, and decisively. Nobody is willing to bring down President Trump over this. Because deep, deep down, they love him. They need him. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I fear we're paving the way for something worse than Trump. All of this is showing that Congress will put party over country. A government takeover is looking a lot easier than it did previously. We'll see what they do with the voting laws. Maybe it's already happening. 3 Link to comment
deedsker Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 http://www.npr.org/2017/06/08/532036374/house-passes-bill-aimed-at-reversing-dodd-frank-financial-regulations Start stuffing the pockets of banks and payday lenders! Woohoo! It's not like banks deregulation caused risky lending to lead to a mortgage crisis/great recession less than a decade ago. 3 Link to comment
zoogs Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 https://news.thestreet.com/story/13749658/3/if-nevertrump-candidate-evan-mcmullin-was-president-here-s-what-would-happen-to-the-u-s-economy.html Woo! On financial regulation, McMullin would roll back Dodd-Frank. He would instead replace it with a "market-oriented solution" to provide incentives for banks to maintain higher capital reserves, which he says would reduce the bailout risk to taxpayers. Conservatives are applauding this -- even the ones for whom it's not convenient to advertise. Evan McMullin won't highlight this alignment, I suspect; he's got a brand to build. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I wonder where we'd be as a country if opinion shows never started being prolific on TV. Imagine this hearing happening 20-30 years ago. Many more people would probably watch most/all of the testilony and maybe get a statement by a couple important Democrat or GOP politicians. Now so many people get the whole thing through a filter and have their opinions formed for them. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 How this for nostalgic? 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I wonder where we'd be as a country if opinion shows never started being prolific on TV. Imagine this hearing happening 20-30 years ago. Many more people would probably watch most/all of the testilony and maybe get a statement by a couple important Democrat or GOP politicians. Now so many people get the whole thing through a filter and have their opinions formed for them. Well....that would have been right at the start of my Rush phase where I thought he was the greatest thing on radio. So, we would have had that. Link to comment
zoogs Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Here's John McCain doing his #NeverTrump thing. H/T NM. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I wonder where we'd be as a country if opinion shows never started being prolific on TV. Imagine this hearing happening 20-30 years ago. Many more people would probably watch most/all of the testilony and maybe get a statement by a couple important Democrat or GOP politicians. Now so many people get the whole thing through a filter and have their opinions formed for them. Well....that would have been right at the start of my Rush phase where I thought he was the greatest thing on radio. So, we would have had that. I will give him credit, he makes me laugh sometimes. Still can't stand him though. Or the damage he causes. Link to comment
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