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I read that letter as Pelosi asking Trump to pick another date. I was wrong. It's off.

 

 

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In other news, the wife of Mike Pence has chosen a really awesome place to work.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, knapplc said:

I read that letter as Pelosi asking Trump to pick another date. I was wrong. It's off.

 

 

 

 

Oh I bet there is one very specific way for Trump to convince Pelosi to change her mind. 

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17 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

 

 

Oh I bet there is one very specific way for Trump to convince Pelosi to change her mind. 

 

Ewww.

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2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

Ewww.

I know right?  It's gross that she would have to shake hands with him after they agreed on a budget that re-opened the government

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1 hour ago, TGHusker said:

Got to admit - this is a brilliant move.  

 

 

It’s hilarious. 

 

 

But he will just give a speech soemwhere else. I hope the main networks won’t broadcast it. I’m sure it’ll be on CNN, Fox, etc. 

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14 hours ago, Clifford Franklin said:

But that theory relies on the GOP pulling their heads out and realizing the government does important stuff and should actually be, you know, running and stuff...

 

None of them will admit that. One of the basic tenants of the modern-day GOP is that the Government is worthless and does nothing worthy of the taxes given to it. 

 

This is a far cry from the Eisenhower days of the Republican Party, to say the very least, when Government work and workers were valued and respected. 

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52 minutes ago, knapplc said:

In other news, the wife of Mike Pence has chosen a really awesome place to work.

 

 

 

What a damnable hypocrite. Christians shouldn't want to be associated with that kind of hatred if they truly cared about Jesus' teachings.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, VectorVictor said:

This is a far cry from the Eisenhower days of the Republican Party, to say the very least, when Government work and workers were valued and respected. 

 

Which is funny, because for almost two years we were constantly reminded that during that era the Democrats were a bunch of racist asshats. 

 

Funny how that's an important thing to remember from that era, but not how the Republicans were at that time.

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At what point do the Republicans on this board actually start to question their party?

 

Are you kidding me?

 

 

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28 minutes ago, knapplc said:

At what point do the Republicans on this board actually start to question their party?

 

Are you kidding me?

 

 

Reagan would be so proud.

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32 minutes ago, knapplc said:

At what point do the Republicans on this board actually start to question their party?

 

Are you kidding me?

 

 

Remember.....he's been tougher on the Russians than any other President in history.

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1 hour ago, TGHusker said:

Cliff, I'll have to correct you on one thing:  The core belief of 'small govt' conservatives is 'efficient govt' not closed govt.  What is happening isn't efficient nor is it small.  It is a total waste of funds as we look at the real cost of this shutdown.  Small govt isn't to be the end game.  It should only be the result of efficient govt - correctly meeting all of the societal needs of the people in an efficient manner - cutting fraud and waste.  Trump's action is one fraudulent act that is hurting the country.  He and the Dems could sit down and settle the boarder issue if he was willing to 'compromise' and secure the boarder through all of the means possible.  

 

:thumbs I wish more of the small government crowd thought like this.

 

My experience with them is that more of them would rather slice and dice it regardless of the collateral damage. Small government by any means necessary. Even looking at this shutdown, I don't hear any of them complaining about the shutdown. The hardcore Trumpers are crowing about how we need the wall, and the small government and libertarian crowd are conspicuously silent.

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33 minutes ago, Clifford Franklin said:

 

:thumbs I wish more of the small government crowd thought like this.

 

My experience with them is that more of them would rather slice and dice it regardless of the collateral damage. Small government by any means necessary. Even looking at this shutdown, I don't hear any of them complaining about the shutdown. The hardcore Trumpers are crowing about how we need the wall, and the small government and libertarian crowd are conspicuously silent.

There is a quote of Reagan's that I don't agree with  ( I know your reaction is :eek:)  Reagan said something to the affect that "Govt isn't the solution but the problem."  I think at the core he meant - inefficient govt is the problem.  But words matter and just saying govt is the problem sets the wrong narrative for conservatives for too long.  We need govt, we need social programs, we need defense spending, etc and etc - but we need efficient  govt so that we can actually bring more (not less) services to the people. 

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4 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

There is a quote of Reagan's that I don't agree with  ( I know your reaction is :eek:)  Reagan said something to the affect that "Govt isn't the solution but the problem."  I think at the core he meant - inefficient govt is the problem.  But words matter and just saying govt is the problem sets the wrong narrative for conservatives for too long.  We need govt, we need social programs, we need defense spending, etc and etc - but we need efficient  govt so that we can actually bring more (not less) services to the people. 

AMEN to every thing you've said in your last few posts.  This is one area where the government is like a business.  The more efficient you are at what you need to be doing, the more you can do.  This is one reason why I'm so much for reducing the deficit and the debt.  We are on pace to spend almost $390 billion dollars next year.....just on interest.  Soon, we will spend more in interest than the entire defense budget.

 

Imagine the social programs and infrastructure we could build with that.

 

I know it's a pipe dream at this point.  But.....Good lord....

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1 hour ago, TGHusker said:

There is a quote of Reagan's that I don't agree with  ( I know your reaction is :eek:)  Reagan said something to the affect that "Govt isn't the solution but the problem."  I think at the core he meant - inefficient govt is the problem.  But words matter and just saying govt is the problem sets the wrong narrative for conservatives for too long.  We need govt, we need social programs, we need defense spending, etc and etc - but we need efficient  govt so that we can actually bring more (not less) services to the people. 

Here, here! :cheers

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1 hour ago, TGHusker said:

There is a quote of Reagan's that I don't agree with  ( I know your reaction is :eek:)  Reagan said something to the affect that "Govt isn't the solution but the problem."  I think at the core he meant - inefficient govt is the problem.  But words matter and just saying govt is the problem sets the wrong narrative for conservatives for too long.  We need govt, we need social programs, we need defense spending, etc and etc - but we need efficient  govt so that we can actually bring more (not less) services to the people. 

 

The government we have reflects the people we are. As we get lazier and less vigilant, our government becomes more corrupt and wasteful. 

 

Government is never the initial problem. It's just (usually) a more visible symptom.

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Someone's going to have to explain to me how that is a white power symbol. It's a very common hand symbol, one I use frequently, and I've never once heard it associated with white power before.

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37 minutes ago, mrandyk said:

Someone's going to have to explain to me how that is a white power symbol. It's a very common hand symbol, one I use frequently, and I've never once heard it associated with white power before.

I have no clue about the hand gesture. 

 

But WTF is he doing showing love for a leader in the white supremist/neo nazi movement?

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1 hour ago, mrandyk said:

Someone's going to have to explain to me how that is a white power symbol. It's a very common hand symbol, one I use frequently, and I've never once heard it associated with white power before.

 

Hard to see it because he used his left hand.

 

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It's a bit of a judgment thing, but any time you see a white supremacist using it, I think it's fair game to wonder.

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2 minutes ago, Clifford Franklin said:

 

Hard to see it because he used his left hand.

 

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It's a bit of a judgment thing, but any time you see a white supremacist using it, I think it's fair game to wonder.

I thought it was a 4chan thing someone made up and then people took it seriously

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1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

That would be interesting. 

 

 

 

 

 

I would love it if they did this. Almost everyone watches the Super Bowl. It would be a more real thing for a lot of people.

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1 hour ago, Clifford Franklin said:

 

Hard to see it because he used his left hand.

 

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It's a bit of a judgment thing, but any time you see a white supremacist using it, I think it's fair game to wonder.

I assumed this would be the logic, but we could make the peace sign or any number of other hand gestures into anything we want by this logic. 

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17 hours ago, knapplc said:

 

The government we have reflects the people we are. As we get lazier and less vigilant, our government becomes more corrupt and wasteful. 

 

Government is never the initial problem. It's just (usually) a more visible symptom.

Well said.  It is the 'You get the govt you deserve'.  Thus we had lazy,  un-discerning voters elect Trump (not a majority, but enough in the right states to get the 270+ EC votes) who believed his basket full of crap. 

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14 hours ago, Clifford Franklin said:

 

4chan meming to own the normies. :facepalm:

 

Except that now that this explanation is out there, people are doing it intentionally to say 'White Power', then pointing to the 4Chan bit to say 'no, that's not what I meant at all', all while winking and nodding the whole time. 

 

So 4Chan essentially created physical doublespeak. Forget 1984--we're in 1985 now.

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22 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

 

And look, there's Nebraska's very own Jeff Fortenberry on the right. He appears to be oblivious to the situation, so I'm guessing he's probably just an innocent bystander. Although... he does have that same look on his face pretty much 24/7. So it's hard to tell for sure.

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