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1 hour ago, NM11046 said:

It was so, so so good!  TG, it's probably written with more of a liberal lean (Sorkin specialty) but there are some really great broad brush statements that ring true.  They did then and really do now.

 

Sorkin is definitely left but I think someone like TG would love the show because of Will McAvoy (Jeff Bridges') character. He's an actual registered Republican but one that speaks out against the tea party, extremism, fake news/media and the like. 

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On 3/12/2019 at 12:56 PM, Fru said:

FWIW, other developed  nations don't seem to have this issue. 

 

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/09/26/u-s-lacks-mandated-paid-parental-leave/

 

"The U.S. is the only country among 41 nations that does not mandate any paid leave for new parents, according to data compiled by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD)."

 

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I got an idea. Since the USA basically subsidizes each of these countries' military budget with our huge expenditures on the military and our military umbrella surrounding these nations, maybe Trump can convince them to pay for our social programs as he has successfully persuaded Mexico to pay for the wall.:o  

We have to look realistically at this - we have a burden (financial and otherwise) that so many of these countries don't have - that as the world's policeman.  Since WW2 it has been our military spending that has kept communism, during the cold war, at bay and allowed these nations to become free or remain free.  Since the end of the cold war, we have still played that role (while also getting into and starting some needless wars ourselves) We have a choice - abandon that role (world policeman/peacekeeper) so that we can fund more social programs here at home (MIC & their strong lobby may not allow us to abandoned that role) and thereby force these countries to spend more on their own protection. The risk - Russian, China and other rouge nations will take advantage of the vacuum we create by our reduced presence.  Or we can keep doing what we are doing and raise our debt level (and taxes) by spending on the social programs that other countries are enjoying.  

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16 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Yep. There is a group of people, lets call them snowflakes, who freaks out any time you question anything about this country. It’s kinda weird how many of those same people think America wasn’t great before Trump came along...

 

And how they consistently hide behind eye trolling and can't come up with any sort of viable defense for Republican or Trump actions taken.

 

It's pathetic--like they willfully wish to remain ignorant, because admitting their failures as human beings means they have to end the fantasy they've created for themselves. 

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1 hour ago, TGHusker said:

I got an idea. Since the USA basically subsidizes each of these countries' military budget with our huge expenditures on the military and our military umbrella surrounding these nations, maybe Trump can convince them to pay for our social programs as he has successfully persuaded Mexico to pay for the wall.:o  

We have to look realistically at this - we have a burden (financial and otherwise) that so many of these countries don't have - that as the world's policeman.  Since WW2 it has been our military spending that has kept communism, during the cold war, at bay and allowed these nations to become free or remain free.  Since the end of the cold war, we have still played that role (while also getting into and starting some needless wars ourselves) We have a choice - abandon that role (world policeman/peacekeeper) so that we can fund more social programs here at home (MIC & their strong lobby may not allow us to abandoned that role) and thereby force these countries to spend more on their own protection. The risk - Russian, China and other rouge nations will take advantage of the vacuum we create by our reduced presence.  Or we can keep doing what we are doing and raise our debt level (and taxes) by spending on the social programs that other countries are enjoying.  

We don't only have to choose between military or social spending - it's possible to do both. We may have to take a harder look at how much military spending we're doing plus take a look at the additional expenditures of the ongoing wars. Or we can raise government revenue to cover all the above.

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41 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

We don't only have to choose between military or social spending - it's possible to do both. We may have to take a harder look at how much military spending we're doing plus take a look at the additional expenditures of the ongoing wars. Or we can raise government revenue to cover all the above.

Yes, not getting into trillion $ wars would be helpful in funding the social programs we need here.  It comes down to priorities.  We also have war hawks, neo-cons, beating the drum about China and Russia gaining military superiority over us and how we would lose a 2 front war against them.  Cue in the Trump budget which seeks to raise defense spending, cut domestic spending (probably the growth but not the actual dollars - but I haven't researched that - it may be a cut in actual $$s:dunno) and won't balance the budget until 2035. 

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A little morning reading for you.

 

The Bulwark has creeped up recently with some good material from a conservative perspective. Apparently its basically run by the shell of the recently disbanded The Weekly Standard and headed by Charlie Sykes and Bill Kristol. Sykes has fully renounced the GOP because he realized selling out to Trumpism isn't a good thing. Kristol is a thoughtful guy, even if I disagree with him.  I'd recommend any conservative-leaning friends take a closer look at it.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

That's the GOP's official Twitter?

f#&%ing hell.

 

It's all similarly bad crap.

 

I clicked on it and scrolled for a bit. It's all the same. They have no positive, uplifting message to offer. Their agenda is hugely unpopular and they know it. They don't have anything aspirational or positive to put forth.

 

So it's all just doubling and tripling down on defending Trump and whatever they can do to make Democrats look bad. It's their only play. Tribalism. Hate the other guy.

 

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