Archy1221 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 4 hours ago, ZRod said: And the Saudis just happened to stay at Trump hotels. Hmmmmmmmmmm 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 It’s March 5th. Isn’t Trump President again? Link to comment
TGHusker Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: It’s March 5th. Isn’t Trump President again? Link to comment
TGHusker Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 40 years ago we had the Reagan Democrats, This article (quoted in part below) now argues that we have the Biden Republicans. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/04/reagan-democrats-biden-republicans-politics-stan-greenberg-473330 Quote Like the Reagan Democrats, they’re heavily white and live in suburbs. But where the Reagan Dems are blue-collar and culturally conservative, Greenberg sees the Biden Republicans as more affluent, highly educated and supportive of diversity. Historically, they identified with the Republican Party as their political home. But the leaders who were supposed to fight for them seem to care more about white grievance and keeping out immigrants; seem to care more about social issues and “owning the libs” than about childcare payments and college tuition. They don’t consider themselves Democrats — at least not yet — but they are voting for them, delivering them majorities in the House and Senate, and making Joe Biden just the fourth candidate in the last century to defeat an incumbent president. Now, with the support of Biden Republicans shored up — at least for the time being — Joe Biden is embarking on an audacious gambit that’s gone largely unnoticed, but, if successful, could kneecap national Republicans for a decade: Recapturing the support of the Reagan Democrats. “Biden is very self-consciously campaigning for Macomb County-type, white working-class voters [for whom] race is not the only thing driving their vote, but who went to Trump [in 2016] because of globalization and their belief that Democrats are not fighting for American workers,” says Greenberg, now based in Washington, D.C., where he continues to work in political polling. “‘America First’ rhetoric was a part of Biden’s campaign. It’s still part of ‘build back better.’” And that puts Republicans in a strategically difficult position. “You have this battle kind of in the mainstream between ‘Reagan Democrats’ — who voted for Reagan, came back to vote for Bill Clinton, some voted for Obama — and a whole new set of voters brought in by Trump,” says Greenberg. In both 2016 and 2020, Trump brought in new voters — people animated by “white nationalism and racial resentment, and whose overwhelming motivation is a deep worry that Black people and immigrants will control the country,” and who are “voting straight-ticket [Republican] to ‘save the country,’” says Greenberg. But by courting those votes, Republicans risk pushing the Biden Republicans further into the Democratic ledger. Another option, of course, is to try and keep these new Trump voters active — which could be a major political gamble, especially when Trump isn’t on the ballot — and try to run up margins with the Reagan Democrats. One big problem with that: Joe Biden. Biden lacks the cosmopolitan appeal of Obama, but to Reagan Democrats, that’s a feature not a bug. “Obama was pro-globalization, and believed we benefited from it,” says Greenberg. “He would have been embarrassed to go see a company that was bringing jobs back from abroad to build in America. He would have been embarrassed to highlight that. But Biden will.” It’s Trump’s economic populism without Trump’s dog-sees-a-squirrel message discipline. “Trump voters, a large portion of them, want a welfare state that is dependable for working people,” says Greenberg. And Biden’s proposed $1.9 trillion Covid relief package could make a tangible difference in their lives. Do the Reagan Democrats stick with non-Trump Republicans if Biden’s Democrats deliver reopened schools, a strong economy, a huge investment in infrastructure and a $3,600-per-child benefit to families on top of a $1,400 stimulus check? For Republicans, Greenberg sees a reality not unlike the one Democrats faced when he first decamped to Macomb County: “They are going to have to lose a few elections before there can be a new dynamic within the Republican Party — just as the Democrats lost a lot of national elections before Bill Clinton was able to change the party.” 1 Link to comment
FrantzHardySwag Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: For as much as the right talks about "Cancel Culture" they sure try to do a lot of cancelling. 'The left is trying to cancel everything' 5 min later......'Karl Rove hurt my feelings, HE SHOULD BE FIRED'. 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 3 hours ago, TGHusker said: Oh....I forgot. Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 This chart shows results from a two-part survey, conducted in late 2020 and early 2021, of hardcore Trump supporters. The political scientists behind the survey, Rachel Blum and Christian Parker, identified so-called “MAGA voters” by their activity on pro-Trump Facebook pages. Their subjects are engaged and committed Republican partisans, disproportionately likely to influence conflicts within the party like primary elections. Link to comment
funhusker Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: This chart shows results from a two-part survey, conducted in late 2020 and early 2021, of hardcore Trump supporters. The political scientists behind the survey, Rachel Blum and Christian Parker, identified so-called “MAGA voters” by their activity on pro-Trump Facebook pages. Their subjects are engaged and committed Republican partisans, disproportionately likely to influence conflicts within the party like primary elections. That was for the chart about election fraud and anti-democratic ideals. The chart @BigRedBuster posted was a different survey. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 58 minutes ago, funhusker said: That was for the chart about election fraud and anti-democratic ideals. The chart @BigRedBuster posted was a different survey. Actually, There's 13 different charts in the article. Link to comment
funhusker Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Actually, There's 13 different charts in the article. And it appears they were all based on different surveys, correct? Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, funhusker said: And it appears they were all based on different surveys, correct? That's the way I took it. Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 54 minutes ago, funhusker said: And it appears they were all based on different surveys, correct? They don't spell out who was polled except for the paragraph I quoted. Regardless, it makes the headline misleading when referring to the entire party. 1 Link to comment
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