Danny Bateman Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Nevermind, I'll just post the whole thing below. 1 Link to comment
AR Husker Fan Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 This has the potential to become explosive... 1 Link to comment
ColoNoCoHusker Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Travel ban suspension upheld by US Appeals Court http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/09/appeals-court-to-issue-decision-on-trump-travel-ban-later-today.html Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 So the court saw through the thin veneer of bigotry. Good for them. Let's see what the Supremes do. (fingers crossed) Link to comment
Lil' Red Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Travel ban suspension upheld by US Appeals Court http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/09/appeals-court-to-issue-decision-on-trump-travel-ban-later-today.html I think this pretty much means the ban in its current form is dead. With the Supreme Court the way it is, I think the best Trump could hope for is a 4-4 ruling which leaves this ruling in place. Link to comment
Whistlebritches Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Travel ban suspension upheld by US Appeals Court http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/09/appeals-court-to-issue-decision-on-trump-travel-ban-later-today.html I think this pretty much means the ban in its current form is dead. With the Supreme Court the way it is, I think the best Trump could hope for is a 4-4 ruling which leave this ruling in place. Or he looks for a way to immediately seat Gorsuch. Link to comment
ColoNoCoHusker Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I am curious if Trump ignores SCOTUS' ruling. We already saw Immigration & Homeland security agencies at Dulles ignore the initial court order. Since 2008, Republican party has undertaken massive research to fight Judicial Supremacy and document the Constitutionality of the Executive ignoring judiciary rulings. I wonder if Trump's admin tests all that research here... Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Ooooooo....the little man is pissed. Link to comment
ColoNoCoHusker Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Ooooooo....the little man is pissed. I know GSG was trying to explain cap lock Friday/eve to him... Link to comment
Moiraine Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I don't know if it'll matter. Roberts might vote against the ban and even Gorsuch might. Dunno enough about him. Link to comment
ColoNoCoHusker Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Here's the Court of Appeals full decision in case anyone wants to read it. It's quite interesting and sounds like Trump's defense was half-baked. The core of the US Government defense was: The Government contends that the district court lacked authority to enjoin enforcement of the Executive Order because the President has “unreviewable authority to suspend the admission of any class of aliens.” The Government does not merely argue that courts owe substantial deference to the immigration and national security policy determinations of the political branches The court replied with: There is no precedent to support this claimed unreviewability, which runs contrary to the fundamental structure of our constitutional democracy They address discrimination, imminent threat, previous statement etc as well... https://www.scribd.com/document/338917971/9th-Circuit-Travel-Ban-Stay-Ruling Link to comment
NM11046 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 So his defense was the presidential/governmental version of "because I said so"? His lawyers and Bannon are sure steering him wrong. Link to comment
ColoNoCoHusker Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 So his defense was the presidential/governmental version of "because I said so"? His lawyers and Bannon are sure steering him wrong. Pretty much. Listening to the interviews from the Washington Solicitor General, he tears apart the Federal Government defense as ignoring reality and jurisprudence. If you read the decision (QMany - looking at you), the majority of the decision addresses the Judiciary's right to review the Executive. The argument was Judiciary doesn't have the right to review; by reviewing the EO the Judiciary has irreparably injured the Government; the EO is preventing imminent danger without providing an example of upcoming danger. Total Keystone Cops Link to comment
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