zoogs Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 We must all be prepared to bear the costs for total, overwhelming victory. Link to comment
zoogs Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Making America Great Again. 1 Link to comment
zoogs Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 https://twitter.com/thinkprogress/status/896076489602420737 A high school graduate who was twice granted temporary deportation relief under a Obama-era program was deported to El Salvador on Wednesday, indicating that the Trump administration is not stopping its relentless crackdown of undocumented immigrants who have been in the country since they were children. (...)“He’s been calling me crying, ‘I don’t know anyone here and I don’t like it here. What can I do?’ And I tell him, ‘I don’t know what to do,'” Mario’s mother said, choking back tears. “He never had problems in school. He always went to class. He graduated from high school. His only issue was his error in committed with his driving otherwise he didn’t have any problems.” Making America Great Again. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 In Donald Trump's mind, "great heart" means a 6-month delay before bringing the hammer down on law-abiding kids who have only ever called America home. What a piece of sh#t. And a patriot he is not. 1 Link to comment
zoogs Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share Posted September 4, 2017 Making America Great Again. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 But hey, that's clearly a bridge too far. That's far too much for us peasants to demand. Instead we'll get a cowardly old man (Trump) sending another feckless, cowardly old man (Sessions) out in front of cameras to announce this complete 180 on important policy (and broken promise to Dreamers) and he'll scurry away from the podium just as fast as he's done reading his prepared statement about restoring law & order and faith in our constitution. What a joke this entire administration is. A bad one. 1 Link to comment
commando Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 another step forward for the white supremacists. Heil Trump! Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Predictably, Sessions is a coward. As is his boss, who is too afraid to tell Dreamers he lied to them to their face. This is an ongoing theme with this administration. If you're too afraid to stand in front of people and field questions about your policies, maybe you have bad policies. 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Thread breaking down this tremendous string of political cowardice by Sessions & Trump: Notably, they continue to lie about circumstances and hide behind "law and order" rhetoric. The fact of the matter is, despite the fact that technically Dreamers are here illegally, our immigration law is woefully out of date and if they commit a crime, they cannot re-up for another term of protection every 2 years. Saying they "pose a threat" to Americans is abject nonsense. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Except that it's not really cowardice - they intended to do this the whole time, and it is consistent with the way they've been running things since January. Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Here's Paul Ryan's statement. The play here for Trump/the Republicans could be two-fold: 1) Another slap in the face for Obama by repealing yet another of his accomplishments. 2) The Republicans craft a law that saves the Dreamers - as hinted at by Ryan's statement - in time to be good PR for the 2018 mid-terms. The GOP needs all the good press it can get after the ACA fiasco. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 It IS cowardice in the sense that Trump is just towing the company line, in a total flip-flop from his own previous position. Trump in 2012: Trump in 2017: Trump, today: Sends out a man he's thoroughly embarrassed and emasculated publicly to make this announcement for him. He lied to those kids, and now he's going to pass the buck to Congress and tell them to fix the problem for him. Maybe he'll try to leverage some wall-funding out of the deal. But do you expect him to show "great heart" and really dig in to the legislative details and learn the laws and try to protect these kids? I don't. He doesn't give a crap if these kids get deported or where they end up. This is just checking another box to him in his quest to undo more Obama stuff. 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I sense I may be out on a limb alone here in feeling REALLY passionately about this being a stupid, morally bankrupt decision. That's OK. It's a pet issue for me. But it just pains me that this is an accurate description of our president right now: Link to comment
Whistlebritches Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, knapplc said: Here's Paul Ryan's statement. The play here for Trump/the Republicans could be two-fold: 1) Another slap in the face for Obama by repealing yet another of his accomplishments. 2) The Republicans craft a law that saves the Dreamers - as hinted at by Ryan's statement - in time to be good PR for the 2018 mid-terms. The GOP needs all the good press it can get after the ACA fiasco. Your point number 2 is really interesting. It's kind of a best of both worlds scenario for the GOP. Congress gets a win for 2018 by saving DACA and by 2020 this likely won't even be a problem for Trump as it's just another drop in the bucket of craziness that is going on. If the Arpiao pardon didn't drop Trump's approvals this won't do much either and it makes the nutters happy. Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Trump's approval rating (or, his "disapproval" rating) is about bottomed out. Short of murdering children on live TV, I don't think there's anything he could do at this point to lose the people that are still supporting him and attending his rallies. I don't think any decision he's making anymore has anything to do with how it'll look to anyone. He's not going to craft policy with anyone but his hardcore base in mind from now on. 3 Link to comment
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