RedDenver Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, TGHusker said: Yes I was aware of this - the voting was being allowed in local elections only and not federal. Thusly, I made that section in BOLD in the quote from the article in my original post. However, my position remains - I still think only citizens should have the right to vote in any and all elections. This is the true value in citizenship - the right to vote - to determine our representations on the issues that face us. This is not an "anti" anything opinion but rather a 'right' that gives value to citizenship. Something that makes citizenship something to be desired. While I generally agree with you, I think things like the local school board elections shouldn't require citizenship to vote. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I'm interested in knowing what he specifically means by "closing the border." So, no goods can pass across either? If so, I'm sure industry will love that. 1 Link to comment
funhusker Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: I'm interested in knowing what he specifically means by "closing the border." So, no goods can pass across either? If so, I'm sure industry will love that. I'm sure Americans vacationing in Cancun right now would love that. 1 Link to comment
commando Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: I'm interested in knowing what he specifically means by "closing the border." So, no goods can pass across either? If so, I'm sure industry will love that. that is exactly what he is threatening. red meat for his "base" Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 3 hours ago, commando said: that is exactly what he is threatening. red meat for his "base" He's a moron, but I'd be all for Mexico facing consequences for allowing their people to flee to the U.S. undeterred. Link to comment
commando Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 can he close the border without his wall? is that possible? Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, B.B. Hemingway said: He's a moron, but I'd be all for Mexico facing consequences for allowing their people to flee to the U.S. undeterred. They're not doing that, though. 2 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, B.B. Hemingway said: He's a moron, but I'd be all for Mexico facing consequences for allowing their people to flee to the U.S. undeterred. What the what? Do you want countries to try to imprison their people within their own borders? Isn't that against the entire idea of freedom? "Mr. Gorbachev, build up this wall!" -Ronald Reagan (or at least how the 2019 GOP remember him) 2 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 You know that many crossing the border aren't from Mexico right? 1 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Realizing now this might be hard to read. The red line is Central Americans crossing the border - they currently make up about 50% of what we see cross the southern border. Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, RedDenver said: What the what? Do you want countries to try to imprison their people within their own borders? Isn't that against the entire idea of freedom? You're being dramatic. Asking large amounts of people to stay within their country's borders is far from imprisonment. 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 2 hours ago, B.B. Hemingway said: You're being dramatic. Asking large amounts of people to stay within their country's borders is far from imprisonment. That's one of the more insane and oppressive things I've heard. So you'd be ok with our government banning you from leaving the country? If that had been the case, many of our ancestors wouldn't have been allowed to emigrate, and we wouldn't be here. 3 Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 6 hours ago, RedDenver said: That's one of the more insane and oppressive things I've heard. So you'd be ok with our government banning you from leaving the country? If that had been the case, many of our ancestors wouldn't have been allowed to emigrate, and we wouldn't be here. It's oppressive to ask that masses of people not enter your country illegally? Now that's insane.... Ellis Island, and what's happening at our southern border are not equatable. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 5 hours ago, B.B. Hemingway said: It's oppressive to ask that masses of people not enter your country illegally? Now that's insane.... Ellis Island, and what's happening at our southern border are not equatable. You know he’s talking about stopping people leaving. Not stopping people entering. They’re very different things. 1 Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 33 minutes ago, Moiraine said: You know he’s talking about stopping people leaving. Not stopping people entering. They’re very different things. You don't think any responsibility for what's happening on our falls on the Mexican government? Link to comment
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