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8 minutes ago, bugeater17 said:

 

How has he welcomed meddling? 

Well, first of all, he has completely denied it happened, has believed Putin over his own intelligence community, he has done everything he can to prevent the investigation into it.  He has demonized the entire intelligence community that has even tried to investigate it.  He was sending his personal lawyer over there to make a deal to help out in this election....oh....until the idiot decided to blab it to the world and got so much push back he canceled the trip.  

 

Seriously,.....you are not so obtuse that you can't see what's happening here.  

 

What has he done to prevent it from happening again in 2020?

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30 minutes ago, bugeater17 said:

 

So Obama's response to Russia for trying to influence our elections was to kick 30 some diplomats out? :thumbs How harsh!! :lol: 


If you're being intellectually honest, Obama wanted to release a joint, bipartisan statement announcing Russia was meddling in the elections. But Mitch McConnell said no:

 

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In a secure room in the Capitol used for briefings involving classified information, administration officials broadly laid out the evidence U.S. spy agencies had collected, showing Russia’s role in cyber-intrusions in at least two states and in hacking the emails of the Democratic organizations and individuals.

And they made a case for a united, bipartisan front in response to what one official described as “the threat posed by unprecedented meddling by a foreign power in our election process.”

The Democratic leaders in the room unanimously agreed on the need to take the threat seriously. Republicans, however, were divided, with at least two GOP lawmakers reluctant to accede to the White House requests.

According to several officials, McConnell raised doubts about the underlying intelligence and made clear to the administration that he would consider any effort by the White House to challenge the Russians publicly an act of partisan politics.

 

So in reality McConnell is a scumbag who doesn't put a high priority on democracy. Bad for the GOP brand, you know.

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2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Well, first of all, he has completely denied it happened, has believed Putin over his own intelligence community, he has done everything he can to prevent the investigation into it.  He has demonized the entire intelligence community that has even tried to investigate it.  He was sending his personal lawyer over there to make a deal to help out in this election....oh....until the idiot decided to blab it to the world and got so much push back he canceled the trip.  

 

Seriously,.....you are not so obtuse that you can't see what's happening here.  

 

What has he done to prevent it from happening again in 2020?

 

You, like others, are apparently commingling so many issues that it has prevented a logical stream of thought. There is a difference in Russia meddling and Russia collusion (for which Trump was investigated). The only similarity between the two is neither had any effect on the election. 

 

As to meddling, do you really think Russia making and posting fake videos swayed voters to vote for a different candidate? If so, you sir, are the obtuse one. If not, yes steps should be taken to prevent, which there have been, but its largely overblown political issue that republicans and democrats can point the finger at each other. But in the end, why do we really care?  

 

As to collusion, that's been discussed and investigated at length. There simply isn't any evidence of it. 

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4 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Why do you keep proclaiming that this is some great accomplishment that has made us safer?  IT HASN'T.  

Saying he will do something is the same as doing in the eyes of the Cult of Trump personality disorder. 

Believing that we have accomplished something because Trump said we have when we really haven't is an accomplishment in the eyes of the Cult of Trump personality disorder.

 

Trump is great at saying what he will do, can do and pointing fingers at what others should have done, but he is poor on follow through. 

North Korea - China - Iran - Russia  -  we've heard a lot of bluster but after 3 years we aren't any closer to resolving hot issues associated with these countries.

Mexico - Canada - European countries - relationships are more strained than ever.    

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56 minutes ago, bugeater17 said:

 

You, like others, are apparently commingling so many issues that it has prevented a logical stream of thought. There is a difference in Russia meddling and Russia collusion (for which Trump was investigated). The only similarity between the two is neither had any effect on the election. 

 

As to meddling, do you really think Russia making and posting fake videos swayed voters to vote for a different candidate? If so, you sir, are the obtuse one. If not, yes steps should be taken to prevent, which there have been, but its largely overblown political issue that republicans and democrats can point the finger at each other. But in the end, why do we really care?  

 

As to collusion, that's been discussed and investigated at length. There simply isn't any evidence of it. 

If you think that’s all Russia did then you have consciously chosen to be blind to it and there is no reason to continue. With anything that is bad said about him, you purposely either ignore it or brush it off. 

 

That typically is what happens when someone is committed to a team.

 

Anything for the R.  

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4 hours ago, bugeater17 said:

Uranium One has not been debunked. There just has not been an in-depth investigation into the deal. However, what he do know is that the Clinton's were receiving $500,000 pay days for secretive "speaking engagements" during the time. 

Considering that Hillary didn't have the authority to approve or disapprove the deal and she didn't even take part in approving the Uranium One deal, this argument falls apart quickly. 

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Clinton told a New Hampshire TV station in June 2015 that "I was not personally involved because that wasn’t something the secretary of state did." And Jose Fernandez, who served as assistant secretary of state for economic, energy and business affairs under Clinton and represented the department on the panel, told the Times that Clinton "never intervened with me on any CFIUS matter."

 

But even if you don’t take either Clinton or Fernandez at their word, the reality is that the State Department was just one of nine government agencies that signed off on the transaction.

 

 

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3 hours ago, bugeater17 said:

 

As to collusion, that's been discussed and investigated at length. There simply isn't any evidence of it. 

Thats because collusion isn't a charge. Conspiracry on the other hand is a charge of which there is some evidence. I take it you've read none of the Mueller report but think you know the contents because Bill Barr told you so. 

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1 hour ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

Your thesis would get an F brother.  You can't tout "facts" from a Pro Saudi newspaper about Hezbollah and think that it's going to hold water.

 

I fought for this country in the war.  When Russians meddle in our elections, it is an attack on our constitution, our sovereignty, our way of life, and an attack on freedom.  I want that investigated.  I want it to never happen again.  The fact that you don't makes you less like me...a supporter of US freedom, sovereignty, and the constitution.  You should think about the crap Trump spews and actually take note of what he's saying...it's not American.

First, thank you for your service. Second, I have never said meddling in our elections should not be investigated or curbed. Third, are you disputing that Iran funnels money to terrorist organizations such as Hezbollah?

 

Last, perhaps you should re-read my posts before your trying to pull my “American” card. 

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1 hour ago, Nebfanatic said:

Thats because collusion isn't a charge. Conspiracry on the other hand is a charge of which there is some evidence. I take it you've read none of the Mueller report but think you know the contents because Bill Barr told you so. 

Thanks for your laymen’s analysis of collusion and conspiracy. 

 

What evidence of conspiracy did Mueller find?

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On 6/18/2019 at 4:53 PM, bugeater17 said:

 

How much did they pay in sales tax? So your position they paid NO taxes is untenable. Also, your position in prior posts is completely undercut by the fact that tax reform under Trump removed many tax loopholes which lead to lower FEDERAL INCOME taxes due and larger deductions. If you run a company you would certainly understand the items that businesses can write-off have decreased dramatically.  

 

 

This has to be a joke. What does it matter if loopholes are closed if tax revenue has plummeted??

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1 minute ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

This has to be a joke. What does it matter if loopholes are closed if tax revenue has plummeted??

Did large companies just start paying no federal income taxes under Trump? If you don’t understand how corporate tax, including write-offs, depreciation, and past losses work, then this conversation is pointless. 

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14 minutes ago, bugeater17 said:

Did large companies just start paying no federal income taxes under Trump? If you don’t understand how corporate tax, including write-offs, depreciation, and past losses work, then this conversation is pointless. 

 

 

What would you say the purpose of closing loopholes is? Not sure why you're asking me that question, as I didn't mention it let alone claim it.

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1 hour ago, bugeater17 said:

Thanks for your laymen’s analysis of collusion and conspiracy. 

 

What evidence of conspiracy did Mueller find?

Here is one interesting section of the Mueller report. The report outlines hundreds of interactions with Russia. Mueller just wasn't going to go there in accusing the President of working with a foriegn power, but there is evidence in the report even if it wouldn't be enough to convict in a court of law. Shady stuff nonetheless 

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