TGHusker Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/border-wall-could-save-taxpayers-five-times-its-cost-over-10-years One estimate how the wall saves tax payers $$s over the next 10 years. Link to comment
Making Chimichangas Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Moraine said: The big differences are that almost no one wants to ban guns and they kill a lot more innocent people than illegal immigrants. Not to derail this thread, and this is all I will say about this here... But guns don't kill people. People kill people. Guns are merely the tool used to do the deed, just like a: knife bat car your 4th grade, "participation" trophy from 1984, et al Link to comment
Landlord Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 The ease of use and the relative effectiveness of the tool matter. Not all tools are created equally or to be viewed in the same light. Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/border-wall-could-save-taxpayers-five-times-its-cost-over-10-years One estimate how the wall saves tax payers $$s over the next 10 years. Where do you find this stuff? I'm trying to get verification on the first allegation: Each illegal is a lifetime net cost to taxpayers of $74,722 And I get nothing but alt-right websites. Where does this figure come from? Because if this figure isn't accurate, none of their "cost savings" calculations are accurate. EDIT - found this on Politifact: Trump said, "Illegal immigration costs our country more than $113 billion a year." Trump presented this figure as a hard fact to make his case, and not as the rough, high-end estimate that it is. The figure matches a 2013 study by a group that wants to reduce immigration, FAIR. It’s uncertain how much immigrants in the United States illegally cost taxpayers, but FAIR’s data is largely based on broad estimates and assumptions. Another report by a conservative think tank pegged the amount at about $85 billion a year. Reports by pro-immigration or neutral groups have come in significantly lower, and other reports have been inconclusive. Estimating the costs of illegal immigration is extremely difficult and produces dramatically different figures, depending on the source. Yes, there are costs. But Trump is selecting the highest of all possible estimates from a range that varies widely. We rate Trump’s statement Mostly False. 1 Link to comment
Making Chimichangas Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 The ease of use and the relative effectiveness of the tool matter. Not all tools are created equally or to be viewed in the same light. True, but still the tool in and of itself does not kill anyone. Link to comment
Landlord Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 The ease of use and the relative effectiveness of the tool matter. Not all tools are created equally or to be viewed in the same light. True, but still the tool in and of itself does not kill anyone. I don't think anyone has ever claimed that. Link to comment
Kiyoat Husker Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 That quote can't be real. I'm sure it was just the script for Alec Baldwin. Link to comment
knapplc Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Notice how he was initially saying the wall would be sea-to-sea, but now he's going back on that, saying there will be large gaps at natural barriers. This thing has been a distraction since day one. Like, literally since day one - he mentioned the wall the day he announced his campaign. Link to comment
Kiyoat Husker Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 It's a transparent wall. See? It's already there! We didn't pay for it either! 5 Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Remember when Mexico was going to pay for Trump's monument to uselessness? Good times. 1 Link to comment
deedsker Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Looks like Trump still doesn't know how to keep project costs down either. Quote The funds transfer would bring the total amount devoted to border wall construction under Trump to $18.4 billion. Quote Finally, Congress compromised to give the president $1.375 billion for “existing technologies” like “bollard fencing,” far less than the $5.7 billion originally requested by the White House. No wonder Trump is the debt king. 1 Link to comment
commando Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 well...the wind did reach 37 MPH https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/29/politics/us-border-wall-falls-over-high-winds/index.html 2 Link to comment
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