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1 hour ago, Waldo said:

I always knew Trump was innocent!! 
 

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i am not sure that is even the republican talking point.  many of them said that he is guilty of what he was charged with...but that it didn't reach the scale to warrant removing him from office.   so not innocent...just not guilty enough

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2 minutes ago, commando said:

i am not sure that is even the republican talking point.  many of them said that he is guilty of what he was charged with...but that it didn't reach the scale to warrant removing him from office.   so not innocent...just not guilty enough

That’s what his followers believe though. 

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36 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

Random Observation from today: Can you imagine being Ted Cruz (plz don't). Trump called him Lyin' Ted, said he's soft like a baby, said he has mental problems, called his wife ugly, and said his dad killed JFK and Ted is over here still kissing his ring. Surprised he can stand without a spine - what a cuck that guy is. 

 

Sometimes a picture says it all.

 

Sometime during the fall of 2016:

 

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They are on a fishing expedition, with no credible evidence as predicate. They will surely leak the most redacted smears without context. It is about to get really ugly.

 

NOTE: The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations (Graham, Paul, Rubio, etc.) still has a on their website a FACT SHEET: DOD CERTIFIED THAT UKRAINE MET CORRUPTION BENCHMARKS.  

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The Claims: President Trump and senior administration officials have claimed that security assistance to Ukraine was held up because they were concerned the assistance would be diverted. For example:

  • Trump said, “why would you give money to a country that you think is corrupt?” [Roll Call, 9/23/19].
  • Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney said that “the corruption in the country” was one of three key reasons the assistance was withheld. [Press briefing, 10/17/19].
  • According to Secretary Pompeo, assistance was held up because of concerns that “the money wouldn’t flow to the mission that it was intended for” and to therefore “ensure that there wasn’t corruption in Ukraine that would divert these resources to an inappropriate place.” [Interview with George Stephanopoulos, 10/20/19].

But DOD Had Twice Certified Ukraine’s Progress on Corruption: Long before President Trump ordered a halt to security assistance, the Secretary of Defense—in coordination with Secretary Pompeo—twice certified that Ukraine had made sufficient reforms to decrease corruption and increase accountability, and that the country could ensure accountability for U.S. provided military equipment. Further, after OMB held the assistance to Ukraine in July, the Department of Defense (DOD) conducted an additional analysis and concluded that the assistance was effective and should be resumed. [Amb. Taylor testimony, 10/22/19]. Finally, before the July 2019 hold, the Trump administration had approved sending foreign assistance to Ukraine nearly 50 separate times without ever holding it because of concerns that it would be diverted due to corruption.

 

 

 

 

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Trump is at some podium airing his grievances at being impeached.

 

And this, this is so very true. And there are a lot of people in this country who feel perpetually aggrieved, regardless of their position or privilege in life, and those are the never-wavering foundation of Trump's support.

 

 

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