The First Trump Impeachment Thread

[teachercd 10,259]

5 minutes ago, QMany said:

 

I had a very tiny glimmer of hope that Senators, including mine, would uphold the Constitution and remove Trump. I didn't think they would so quickly dispose of this without witnesses. Call me naive. 

 

Politically, this is probably the best outcome for Independents and Democrats, short of removal. This cover-up will hang heavy over their necks in November, 2022, etc. 

I agree...I would think if you are a Democrat that you just realized that you are winning the election with ease.

 

 

[TGHusker 5,665]

5 minutes ago, teachercd said:

I agree...I would think if you are a Democrat that you just realized that you are winning the election with ease.

 

 

I wish I could agree wt the ease part.   I believe it will embolden trump to do even worse.  He's probably on the phone asking Putin for help now in scheming something new up.   He will lie his way through the primaries, nomination and general election. He will attack his opponent without any concern about backlash and he will promise jobs, a booming economy etc and the foolish will forget these days and just vote their pocketbook.  Could he get re-elected.  Yes.  He shocked us once and it is possible again.  Very important the Dems put forward a strong ticket.

[Notre Dame Joe 1,339]

4 hours ago, Decoy73 said:

Going to court likely would have taken months to resolve and they simply didn’t have that kind of time.  You know this to be true. To address your other point. Executive privilege was NEVER exerted.  So that deflates your argument about that. 

 

The Ds had time for over 2 weeks vacation at the end of the inquiry.  Then Nancy dilly dallied for what seemed like a month after the vote.  That's a lot of time for the Courts to rule on these issues that would clearly be fastracked.  But I understand.  Nadler said they already had overwhelming proof, so we can ignore last minute attempts to reboot the trial.

[teachercd 10,259]

5 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

I wish I could agree wt the ease part.   I believe it will embolden trump to do even worse.  He's probably on the phone asking Putin for help now in scheming something new up.   He will lie his way through the primaries, nomination and general election. He will attack his opponent without any concern about backlash and he will promise jobs, a booming economy etc and the foolish will forget these days and just vote their pocketbook.  Could he get re-elected.  Yes.  He shocked us once and it is possible again.  Very important the Dems put forward a strong ticket.

Yeah, I get what you are saying but Sanders or Biden can promise a booming economy and jobs too.

[Notre Dame Joe 1,339]

39 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

We're talking about the Obama admin's spying in an election TODAY?

[Nebfanatic 6,316]

5 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

 

The Ds had time for over 2 weeks vacation at the end of the inquiry.  Then Nancy dilly dallied for what seemed like a month after the vote.  That's a lot of time for the Courts to rule on these issues that would clearly be fastracked.  But I understand.  Nadler said they already had overwhelming proof, so we can ignore last minute attempts to reboot the trial.

Clinton trial allowed new witnesses and evidence 

[QMany 5,477]

7 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Nadler said they already had overwhelming proof...

 

Republican Senators conceded that too.

[Danny Bateman 9,895]

 

 

Even Mr. Baby Cages is chiming in to note how pathetic this Senate GOP is. Ouch.

 

 

 

[commando 9,006]

5 minutes ago, QMany said:

 

Republican Senators conceded that too.

murkowski also said she was voting against witnesses because the senate trial WAS NOT FAIR.   i wonder what she meant by that?   

[BigRedBuster 24,116]

1 hour ago, schriznoeder said:

 

Well, but he's not the last after reading Rubio's statement.

 

Pathetic.

[TGHusker 5,665]

1 minute ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

We're talking about the Obama admin's spying in an election TODAY?

You sound like a good cult member - pointing the finger elsewhere while being in denial about what your dear leader has done. 

Deception continues when you are unwilling to look into the mirror.   Wrong is wrong - stop excusing what trump has done today because you believe someone else did something wrong yesterday.  Morality/ethics doesn't work that way.

 

If you read all of my old posts from the Obama era, you'll see that I was far from being an Obama supporter.  I took a lot of flack (some warranted and some not) for my strong opinions about Obama's policies.  So no deflection of the issue at hand will work on me.  In retrospect and despite my policy differences, I would say that trump isn't worthy of holding Obama's jock strap.   

 

One day you might wake up and get out of the deception.  I pray that you do. 

[Nebfanatic 6,316]

Just now, BigRedBuster said:

Well, but he's not the last after reading Rubio's statement.

 

Pathetic.

And Portmans statement. 

[BigRedBuster 24,116]

14 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

 

The Ds had time for over 2 weeks vacation at the end of the inquiry.  Then Nancy dilly dallied for what seemed like a month after the vote.  That's a lot of time for the Courts to rule on these issues that would clearly be fastracked.  But I understand.  Nadler said they already had overwhelming proof, so we can ignore last minute attempts to reboot the trial.

So, in other words you don't care about hearing from people who can tell you first hand what happened....as long as keeping them quite keeps your guy in office.

[BigRedBuster 24,116]

3 minutes ago, commando said:

murkowski also said she was voting against witnesses because the senate trial WAS NOT FAIR.   i wonder what she meant by that?   

WTF??? NOW....how as the Senate trial not fair?

[commando 9,006]

lots of repubs have said something along of the lines of yeah...he did it...but...

 

 

seems like a bunch of responsible  guys and gals right there...voting to let someone they think is guilty go free.