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3 hours ago, TGHusker said:

John Kelly, speaks his mind about Trump - trump was wrong about Ukraine, NK, pardoning 

Eddie Gallagher,  & immigration.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/john-kelly-alexander-vindman-north-korea-and-trump/606496/

 

Strong words from the guy making money off locking up children and separating them from their parents.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/john-kelly-new-role-will-profit-from-child-separation-policy-2019-5

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1,2 , 3, 4  when does Barr hit the door?     Barr is critical of Trump and his tweets.

 

(Of course Trump may have given him permission to speak thusly to 'give the appearance' of being independent of Trump) 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/barr-blasts-trumps-tweets-stone-case-impossible-job/story?id=68963276


 

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In an exclusive interview, Attorney General Bill Barr told ABC News on Thursday that President Donald Trump "has never asked me to do anything in a criminal case” but should stop tweeting about the Justice Department because his tweets “make it impossible for me to do my job.”

Barr’s comments are a rare break with a president who the attorney general has aligned himself with and fiercely defended. But it also puts Barr in line with many of Trump’s supporters on Capitol Hill who say they support the president but wish he’d cut back on his tweets.

“I think it’s time to stop the tweeting about Department of Justice criminal cases,” Barr told ABC News Chief Justice Correspondent Pierre Thomas.

When asked if he was prepared for the consequences of criticizing the president – his boss – Barr said “of course” because his job is to run the Justice Department and make decisions on “what I think is the right thing to do.”

“I’m not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody ... whether it’s Congress, a newspaper editorial board, or the president,” Barr said. “I’m gonna do what I think is right. And you know … I cannot do my job here at the department with a constant background commentary that undercuts me.”

 

 

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4 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

1,2 , 3, 4  when does Barr hit the door?     Barr is critical of Trump and his tweets.

 

(Of course Trump may have given him permission to speak thusly to 'give the appearance' of being independent of Trump) 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/barr-blasts-trumps-tweets-stone-case-impossible-job/story?id=68963276


 

 

trumps tweets expose that barr is working for trump.   barr is asking for donnie to stop admitting that barr is doing his dirty work

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49 minutes ago, commando said:

trumps tweets expose that barr is working for trump.   barr is asking for donnie to stop admitting that barr is doing his dirty work

yep

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On 2/12/2020 at 7:27 AM, TGHusker said:

Full Stone trial team resigns.   This is how dictators take control.  Change the definition of right and wrong, innocence & guilt,  justice & injustice.   Pardons for friends and criminals, purge the honorable.      Hitler's Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels would be so proud as would his Minister of Justice Franz Schlegelberger 

 

https://apnews.com/f9addeca0df46d91442701d1420ed046

 

 

 

 

 

So do the dictators have the judge and jury more or less predisposed to hate the accused?

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5 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

 

 

 

So do the dictators have the judge and jury more or less predisposed to hate the accused?

I used to have a dog.  But my favorite color is red.  So what does my favorite jacket have to do with this?: I’m having Chinese food for lunch today!

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Wednesday, December 4, 2019 during the House Judiciary hearing:

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What happened in 2016 was bad enough: there is widespread agreement that Russian operatives intervened to manipulate our political process. But that distortion is magnified if a sitting President abuses the powers of his office actually to invite foreign intervention. To see why, imagine living in a part of Louisiana or Texas that’s prone to devastating hurricanes and flooding. What would you think if, when your governor asked the federal government for the disaster assistance that Congress has provided, the President responded, “‘I would like you to do us a favor.’ I’ll meet with you and send the disaster relief once you brand my opponent a criminal.”? Wouldn’t you know in your gut that such a president had abused his office, betrayed the national interest, and tried to corrupt the electoral process?

Professor Karlan.

 

Thinly-veiled, corrupt QPD is no less wrong just because it is blatant and public.

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2 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

 

who leads the DOJ and who is it that needs to show that he isn't trumps lap dog?

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Can we impeach the guy again??   Actually, this 'confession' tells me the guy is confident he can get away wt anything now. 

 

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-ukraine-biden_n_5e4691d3c5b64433c614e787

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-ukraine-biden-141733650.html

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President Donald Trump now admits he sent his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani to Ukraine to dig up dirt on 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son Hunter, a central part of Trump’s impeachment. 

Trump on Thursday explained why he chose to “use Rudy” in an interview for Fox News host Geraldo Rivera’s podcast, perhaps feeling at ease after being acquitted by the Republican-led Senate earlier this month.

“Was it strange to send Rudy Giuliani to Ukraine, your personal lawyer? Are you sorry you did that?” Rivera asked Trump.

“No, not at all,” Trump said.

Here’s my choice: I deal with the Comeys of the world, or I deal with Rudy,” he continued, referring to former FBI Director James Comey, whom he fired in 2017 after the FBI began investigating his 2016 campaign. The investigation mushroomed into special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe of Russian election interference.

Trump said he has “a very bad taste” for U.S. intelligence officials because of Mueller’s investigation, so he chose Giuliani to do his bidding.

“So when you tell me, why did I use Rudy? And one of the things about Rudy, number one, he was the best prosecutor, you know, one of the best prosecutors, and the best mayor,” Trump told Rivera. “But also, other presidents had them. FDR had a lawyer who was practically, you know, was totally involved with government. Eisenhower had a lawyer. They all had lawyers.”

In November, Trump denied that he sent Giuliani to Ukraine, despite congressional testimony from multiple witnesses, including career diplomats and government officials, who said Giuliani met with and pressured Ukrainian officials as part of Trump’s plot to coerce a foreign government into aiding his reelection.

“No, I didn’t direct him, but he is a warrior, he is a warrior,” Trump said in an interview on former Fox News host Bill O’Reilly’s radio show, when asked if he instructed Giuliani to “do anything” in Ukraine.

But then-ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland testified that Trump gave him “express direction” to work with Giuliani.

Giuliani also was mentioned in Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, when Trump told Zelensky to “speak to him.”

“Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man,” Trump said, according to the summary of the call released by the White House. “He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what’s happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great.”

Giuliani said this week his Ukraine snooping uncovered “smoking gun” evidence of the Bidens’ involvement in corruption. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a prominent Trump defender, said Attorney General William Barr told him there would be an “intake process” for Giuliani to funnel his dirt to the Justice Department.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

no one polices the police

It looks like the DOJ did just that and found no crime to charge him with.  

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Impeachment is over.  Trump and Barr are trying to clean it all up to fit their view.  Fire those who testified against Trump (the innocent) and try to diminish or overturn the sentences of the friends (the guilty).  

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-opens-inquiry-fbi-interview-heart-flynn-s-guilty-n1136481

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The Department of Justice recently opened an inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the FBI's interview of Michael Flynn while he was serving as President Donald Trump's national security adviser, according to two people familiar with the inquiry.

Flynn pleaded guilty to giving false statements to the FBI during that interview, but recently asked to withdraw that plea, further delaying his sentencing.

 

Attorney General William Barr asked the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Missouri, Jeffrey Jensen, to look into Flynn's FBI interview, the people familiar with the inquiry said. The inquiry began within the past month, they said.

Around that same time, federal prosecutors on the Flynn case came under pressure from senior Justice Department officials to recommend a lighter sentence for him than they had proposed, according to people familiar with the matter.

A third person familiar with the inquiry said Jensen is broadly reviewing the Flynn case.

Asked about the inquiry into Flynn's FBI interview, a spokesperson for Jensen said, "I can't answer those questions" and directed queries to the Justice Department.

A spokesperson for the Justice Department declined to comment.

One of the people familiar with the inquiry described it as "very sensitive."

 

 

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11 hours ago, Decoy73 said:

It looks like the DOJ did just that and found no crime to charge him with that couldn't come around to bite them in the a$$. 

FYP, everyone knows McCabe lied in his official capacity.  The problem thoughout the ages is that the police never want people really looking hard at how they work. 

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5 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

.  The problem thoughout the ages is that the police never want people really looking hard at how they work. 

how long have you been a black lives matter member?

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