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It isn’t relevant whether the whistleblower is anti-Trump or not. Being against someone while witnessing them doing something wrong does not require bias. Seeing someone doing something wrong should cause people to be against them.

 

It’s a f#&%ing ridiculous argument to use to discredit someone.

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29 minutes ago, funhusker said:

How does a person like Don Jr. get the name anyway?  Sounds like a "leaker" is sitting at the dinner table....

 

Nevermind, that couldn't be it.  No way in hell Trump actually sits down with his family and shares a meal in private. 

He just retweeted a Breitbart article that supposedly gives the name. This really shouldn't be that big of a story. People have been throwing out potential names since day one. Now he gets to play "victim" as the fake news liberal media attacks him...

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12 minutes ago, ZRod said:

He just retweeted a Breitbart article that supposedly gives the name. This really shouldn't be that big of a story. People have been throwing out potential names since day one. Now he gets to play "victim" as the fake news liberal media attacks him...

Makes sense.  Thanks!

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2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

 

https://www.axios.com/bill-taylor-ukraine-interview-transcript-65975653-0d18-44bd-9cd2-c5b64ca298ef.html

 

Good reason the ambassador, Trump donor, changed his story yesterday as his 'memory' became clearer.  Lying to Congress is not a good thing.   Again, we have strong evidence from someone who is not the whistle blower.    

 

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The House Intelligence Committee on Wednesday released the transcript of its closed door interview with Bill Taylor, the top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine.

Why it matters: In his opening statement, Taylor told House investigators that he understood President Trump to be conditioning the release of military aid on the Ukrainian president's willingness to announce investigations into Trump's political rivals, including Joe Biden and the Democratic National Committee.

  • Taylor's testimony, which drew a direct line from congressionally approved military aid to Ukrainian interference in domestic U.S. politics, was met with allegations from the president that the longtime diplomat is a "Never Trumper."
  • Taylor, a West Point graduate and Vietnam War veteran, has served in every administration since 1985 and was asked to return to serve as acting ambassador to Ukraine in May by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
  • He was skeptical of accepting the job because he was worried that an irregular channel of foreign policy led by Rudy Giuliani would undermine U.S.-Ukraine relations.

What to watch: Taylor is scheduled to testify in open session next week as part of the impeachment inquiry's first public hearings.

Key excerpts

Taylor testified that he first heard about military aid being tied to the investigations from National Security Council official Tim Morrison, who described a conversation EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland had with Ukrainian official Andrey Yermak.

CHAIRMAN SCHIFF: And when you say that, this was the first time I heard that the security assistance not just the White House meeting was conditioned on the investigation, when you talk about conditioned, did you mean that if they didn't do this, the investigations, they weren't going to get that, the meeting and the military assistance?
TAYLOR: That was my clear understanding, security assistance money would not come until the President committed to pursue the investigation.
SCHIFF: So if they don't do this, they are not going to get that was your understanding
TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
SCHIFF: Are you aware that quid pro quo literally means this for that?
TAYLOR: I AM.

 

 
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House investigators have released the deposition by William Taylor, who runs the U.S. diplomatic mission in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv.

Taylor, a career foreign policy specialist in the State Department, has been a central witness in the Ukraine affair. He described the intent by President Trump, as described by another diplomat, to put Ukraine's president "in a public box" committing to investigations that Trump thought might help him in the 2020 elections.

 

 

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57 minutes ago, knapplc said:

Rick Perry? Is this somehow a new development, or did we already know about his involvement in Ukraine?

 

Maybe I just forgot in the whirlwind of info that comes out on this subject every day.

 

 

In the swirl of the whirlwind.  It appears Trump trusted a few people to get this done.  Rick was one.  Of course he is resigning effective the first of the year - 'they said' it has nothing to do wt Ukraine.  Right!   Perry, Giuliani have proven to be not the brightest of bulbs. 

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2 hours ago, knapplc said:

Rick Perry? Is this somehow a new development, or did we already know about his involvement in Ukraine?

 

Maybe I just forgot in the whirlwind of info that comes out on this subject every day.

 

 

He's been there all along. Trump threw him under the bus right away, saying he only made the phone call because of him. I'm not sure how he's been so under the radar, he's been subpoenaed.

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