Will There be War wt N Korea next 4 years

[mrandyk]

You'd think that a cunning businessman like himself would understand something as simple as a cost-benefit analysis. I guess that's out the window when the cost is other people's money, and the benefit is a heightened ego.

[commando]

especially if it's just in time for the mid term elections 

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

 

[TGHusker]

John Dean, of Watergate fame, believes Trump to be out of his league here.    My concern is that of BRB's tweet post ^^^ - NK thug leader will be perceived now as an equal.  He'll play Trump along and then back off once he gets concessions he wants.  Who knows, China might be pulling their puppet's string to play this game as a retaliation to Trump's tariffs against their steel.

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/john-dean-trump-north-korea-meeting/2018/03/09/id/847774/

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President Donald Trump's upcoming meeting with North Korean strongman Kim Jong Un could be "extremely dangerous" and could "go very wrong," says John Dean, the attorney who served as White House Counsel for President Richard Nixon.

Dean took to Twitter on Friday morning to warn that the powwow cannot be considered anything like Nixon's historic 1972 trip to China to meet with Chairman Mao Zedong and Premier Zhou Enlai

 

 

 

Greater surprise is some CNN and  MSNBC journalists gave Trump praise.  Maybe they are setting him up for a big disappointment.  Exaggerate expectations and feel the boom when those exaggerated expectations aren't met.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2018/03/08/cnn-msnbc-journalists-give-trump-glowing-praise-north-korea-move

[Kiyoat Husker]

I don't know.  Maybe letting Trump and his crack team go to North Korea could turn out fine.  Just like it turned out for Hans Blix.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIPSvIz9NDs

 

[BigRedBuster]

How many letters like this do you think Trump is receiving?

 

 

[TGHusker]

According to some the chance of war wt NK went up 4-5x with the appointment of Bolton as NCA

 

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/23/17155796/john-bolton-trump-mike-pompeo-war-cabinet

 

 

 

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John Bolton will officially become President Trump’s third national security adviser on April 9. And after that, the risk of the United States getting into another devastating war — or two — will rise substantially.

Vipin Narang, an MIT political scientist, estimated in a tweet that Bolton’s appointment raised the risk of war with North Korea by four times. Michael Horowitz, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, responded by saying he had revised his estimation upward by a factor of five.

Nor is Bolton alone in his hawkishness. Trump’s pick for his new secretary of state, CIA Director Mike Pompeo, is a vocal opponent of the nuclear deal with Iran who has called for strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities. More recently, he’s mused about regime change in North Korea.

“I am hopeful we will find a way to separate that regime from this system,” Pompeo said in a 2017 interview. “The North Korean people, I’m sure are lovely people and would love to see him [Kim Jong Un] go.”

Equally important are the people Bolton and Pompeo are replacing. The outgoing national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, is relatively hawkish on Korea but a staunch voice for preserving the Iran deal. Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is a relative dove on both issues; he also believed in keeping the Iran deal in place and has repeatedly and publicly reached out to North Korea to try to come to a diplomatic solution to the nuclear crisis.

 

 

The era of Trump unbound  quote below has this response from me:     Mueller get this guy out of here NOW. or has someone once famously put it: obi wan kenobi  you are out only hope!

 

 

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Jeremy Bash, a former chief of staff at both the CIA and the Defense Department, said on MSNBC Friday morning that Trump is “assembling a war cabinet” — and it’s hard to argue with him.

“The ‘axis of adults’ era is officially over,” says Derek Chollet, senior adviser for security and defense policy at the German Marshall Fund of the United States.

Instead, it’s possible we’re entering the era of Trump unbound — with all of the instability that entails.

 

 

 

Another related link

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/23/17155830/john-bolton-national-security-adviser-trump-mcmaster

 

Edited March 23, 2018 by TGHusker

[BigRedBuster]

 

[BigRedBuster]

Good write up about where things stand. 

 

 

[teachercd]

It is amazing that 6 months ago Kim was talking about war...now not so much.

 

[BigRedBuster]

Interesting. 

 

 

[Nebfanatic]

What is up with Kim Jong over this last month? It seems he is acting somewhat sensibly, hopefully things continue in this manner.

[Moiraine]

Maybe his wife had a baby

[commando]

1 hour ago, Nebfanatic said:

What is up with Kim Jong over this last month? It seems he is acting somewhat sensibly, hopefully things continue in this manner.

sensibly compared to who?

[knapplc]

1 hour ago, Nebfanatic said:

What is up with Kim Jong over this last month? It seems he is acting somewhat sensibly, hopefully things continue in this manner.

 

This was the plan all along. Develop a weapons system that appears capable of targeting mainland America, demonstrate nuclear capabilities, and suddenly you have leverage in negotiations.

 

If he'd have come to the table without doing that, he has no bargaining power. Now he has the ability to bargain away a holocaust he never intended to use in order to get what he wants.

 

There was never going to be a war with North Korea, at least not one started by the North Koreans.  They'd lose, Kim would be dead, and all of this would have been for nothing. 

 

Now he's going to get what he wants and he'll survive the ordeal.  He may even come out of it a hero to his people if food & supplies start flowing into his country.