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I've known about this stuff for awhile now but I'm just thinking about it again.


It pisses me off, even if Trump didn't collude, that he and his people were f***ing dumb enough to let Manafort near them. He was instrumental in getting Ukraine's pro-Russian president elected and the opposite of what Europe and the U.S. needed was pro-Russian leaders in eastern Europe. And the dude probably went up to Trump and asked him for fashion tips and asked how he styled his hair and how he was genius enough to make so many huge billions and told him he liked how manly he was and Trump said "ok. You're so smart. You're the smartest other than me. Lead my campaign."

 

My friend tells me Yanukovych reminded her a little of Trump. He can't speak Ukrainian properly.
 

 

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Manafort also worked as an adviser on the Ukrainian presidential campaign of Viktor Yanukovych (and his Party of Regions during the same time span) from December 2004 until the February 2010 Ukrainian presidential election[60][61][62] even as the U.S. government (and US Senator John McCain) opposed Yanukovych because of his ties to Russia's leader Vladimir Putin.[30] Manafort was hired to advise Yanukovych months after massive street demonstrations known as the Orange Revolution overturned Yanukovych's victory in the 2004 presidential race.[63] Borys Kolesnikov, Yanukovich’s campaign manager, said the party hired Manafort after identifying organizational and other problems in the 2004 elections, in which it was advised by Russian strategists.[61] Manafort rebuffed U.S. Ambassador William Taylor when the latter complained he was undermining U.S. interests in Ukraine.[47] According to a 2008 U.S. Justice Department annual report, Manafort’s company received $63,750 from Yanukovych's Party of Regions over a six-month period ending on March 31, 2008, for consulting services.[64] In 2010, under Manafort's tutelage, the opposition leader put the Orange Revolution on trial, campaigning against its leaders' management of a weak economy. Returns from the presidential election gave Yanukovych a narrow win over Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, a leader of the 2004 demonstrations. Yanukovych owed his comeback in Ukraine's presidential election to a drastic makeover of his political persona and, people in his party say, that makeover was engineered in part by his American consultant, Manafort.[61]

 

In 2007 and 2008 Manafort was involved in investment projects with Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska (the acquisition of a Ukrainian telecoms company) and Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash (redevelopment of the site of the former Drake Hotel in New York City).[65] The Associated Press has reported that Manafort negotiated a $10 million annual contract with Deripaska to promote Russian interests in politics, business, and media coverage in Europe and the United States, starting in 2005.[66]

 

In 2013 Yanukovych became the main target of the Euromaidan protests.[67] After the February 2014 Ukrainian revolution (the conclusion of Euromaidan) Yanukovych fled to Russia.[67] On March 17, 2014, the day after the Crimean status referendum, Yanukovych became one of the first eleven persons who were placed under executive sanctions on the Specially Designated Nationals List (SDN) by President Obama, freezing his assets in the US and banning him from entering the United States.[68][69][70][71][72][73][74][75][76][77][78][a]

 

Manafort then returned to Ukraine in September 2014 to become an advisor to Yanukovych’s former head of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine Serhiy Lyovochkin.[62] In this role he was asked to assist in rebranding Yanukovych's Party of Regions.[62] Instead, he argued to help stabilize Ukraine, Manafort was instrumental in creating a new political party called Opposition Bloc.[62] According to Ukrainian political analyst Mikhail Pogrebinsky, "He thought to gather the largest number of people opposed to the current government, you needed to avoid anything concrete, and just become a symbol of being opposed".[62] According to Manafort, he has not worked in Ukraine since the October 2014 Ukrainian parliamentary election.[79][80] However, according to Ukrainian border control entry data, Manafort traveled to Ukraine several times after that election, all the way through late 2015.[80] According to The New York Times, his local office in Ukraine closed in May 2016.[38] According to Politico, by then Opposition Bloc had already stopped payments for Manafort and this local office.[80]

 

 

And then this dbag Gates helps Yanukovych get the woman he beat in the election, Tymoshenko, imprisoned.

 

*lightbulb*

 

I'm guessing Trump would do the same to Clinton if he could find a way. Maybe that's why he hired Manafort.
 

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Some what related. Kushner's ommissions in providing info for security clearance would typically be a crime.  Not so wt this Admin. Too much to hide.

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/shepard-smith-people-prison-jared-054241423.html

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White House senior aide Jared Kushner’s multiple omissions on required financial disclosure forms for his security clearance would “be a crime, punishable by prison” for other people, Fox News host Shepard Smith said Thursday.

“Apparently not in this case,” Smith added.

The White House has implied that Kushner’s frequent revisions to his financial forms to provide information that was incorrect or missing have caused delays which have held up his security clearance, even though he works with an interim clearance that allows him to view classified information.

Two sources, however, also told CNN Thursday that Kushner will not obtain full security clearance until special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation is complete.

Donald Trump’s son-in-law “submitted his application and did not include 100 contacts with foreigners,” Smith said on “Shepard Smith Reporting.” He “later had to go back and include them ... but he did not include the meeting in Trump Tower with the Russian lawyer and Russian translator. So that was another amendment to this thing.”

Revisions made last July by Kushner, who is married to Ivanka Trump, added 77 previously undisclosed assets and more than $10 million in holdings.

 

 

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A conviction for withholding, misrepresenting or falsifying information on the form for security clearance can result in up to $10,000 in fines and five years in prison.

“It’s really uncommon you’d still be trying to get the form correct at this stage in the game,” Don Fox, a former acting director and general counsel of the Office of Government Ethics, told TPM. Fox served under presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush.

The financial disclosure information is required by federal law so that investigators can determine any possible conflicts of interest or criminal activity in a security clearance probe. Kushner has yet to obtain full security clearance for access to highly sensitive classified information 13 months after he stepped into his White House role. Yet he can access classified information on a temporary basis.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

I can't stress enough how big this has to be.  A Trump campaign official pleads guilty to CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Wow......And Trump will do nothing but ridicule the Justice Department, investigation and the FBI.

 

 

The lies he's told about the media, the justice department, FBI and intelligence agencies should have been enough to impeach him for being mentally unfit for office months ago.

 

His words hold weight because he's the president. It's okay for some jackass at the bar to build up conspiracy theories. The president doing it endangers our democracy and country.

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Trump will do all of those things anyway. Why? Because he is an authoritarian who believes the Justice Dept and the FBI are instruments at his disposal, to be used at his pleasure and only at his pleasure. This is, needless to say, horrifying.

 

He will succeed in bringing them to heel if he tries. Are those people so different from Romney, Mitt? At the rate we are going, Paul Ryan and Congress is not going to step up to block Trump from doing so. 

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