schriznoeder Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Once again, John Oliver finds a way to summarize things better than pretty much anyone else... Mueller Report: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) "The report only vindicates the administration on their own false premises. A year ago, we pointed out that Trump and his team were trying to center the narrative on "collusion," despite the fact that that term has no specific legal meaning in criminal law. But by reframing the investigation that way, Trump ensured that anything short of Mueller publishing 400 pages of text messages between him and Putin gaming out election fraud meant the whole thing was a complete waste of time. So Mueller's report didn't find collusion, and wasn't trying to, because that word doesn't even apply here. And it didn't establish that Trump's team was part of a criminal conspiracy to interfere with the election. But, it found a LOT of other stuff. Because just consider what we learned or had confirmed this week. Russia interfered in our election, and made efforts to help Trump win. And while his campaign did not provably cooperate with Russia, they seemed eager to accept their help in a way that NO one should be comfortable with. Also, Trump may have obstructed justice, and if he didn't, it might only be because people who worked for him ignored his orders. And on top of all of this, the Attorney General, the nation's top law enforcement official, has proven himself to be a dishonest hack. And I'm not saying that any of that is good news, but it is definitely good that we know about it. The point is, having the knowledge that the Mueller Report provides is infinitely better than the alternative, because that knowledge can inform Congress going forward, and crucially, voters a year-and-a-half from now. And the alternative is for America to end up like Michael Cohen - perpetually confused, easily manipulated, and never fully understanding how a guy with a full-time job as a press secretary can also be such a max-jacked, certifiable meat-king (this last line will make sense after watching the segment)." 1 3 Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: Question. Why do Trump and his supporters conveniently forget who originally paid for the dossier? That's a red herring [or dysphemistic "lie"]. The opposition research Jebflakes was buying didn't contain any Russian fan fiction. 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said: That's a red herring [or dysphemistic "lie"]. The opposition research Jebflakes was buying didn't contain any Russian fan fiction. Interesting. So, you are able to justify in your mind the Republicans starting the Steele Dossier deal....But....when the Dems got ahold of it, it becomes a huge illegal scandal. Convenient. 3 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Also....the Steele Dossier still has never been proven to be false. 2 Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 8 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: Interesting. So, you are able to justify in your mind the Republicans starting the Steele Dossier deal....But....when the Dems got ahold of it, it becomes a huge illegal scandal. Convenient. The salacious part came after it was in Hilary's payroll. She's at least morally allowed to burn cash on fan fiction if she wants to, just like Trump Jr can meet with whomever he wants to. The scandal is how it was submitted to a Court as 'evidence.' 1 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said: The salacious part came after it was in Hilary's payroll. She's at least morally allowed to burn cash on fan fiction if she wants to, just like Trump Jr can meet with whomever he wants to. The scandal is how it was submitted to a Court as 'evidence.' Of course....nobody with an R beside their name would do such horrible things. And....oh that despicable Hillary. She’s the real villain that made the sweet little angel Trump look bad. Shame on her. 4 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said: The salacious part came after it was in Hilary's payroll. She's at least morally allowed to burn cash on fan fiction if she wants to, just like Trump Jr can meet with whomever he wants to. The scandal is how it was submitted to a Court as 'evidence.' The Steele dossier is mostly confirmed with some of it unconfirmed and none debunked. That's some crazy accurate fiction. 1 1 Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 11 hours ago, RedDenver said: The Steele dossier is mostly confirmed with some of it unconfirmed and none debunked. That's some crazy accurate fiction. Nothing Steele revealed that wasn't discoverable from other sources. But scattering some truth on your lies doesn't clean them. 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 47 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said: Nothing Steele revealed that wasn't discoverable from other sources. But scattering some truth on your lies doesn't clean them. Nothing has been proven false. 3 Link to comment
ZRod Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, schriznoeder said: This guy doesn't even understand how our government works! 2 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 More lawlessness from Bill Barr's DOJ. This administration seems to sincerely believe that if you don't like the law it doesn't have to apply to you. Their corruption truly knows no bounds. 1 2 Link to comment
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