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I actually really like the idea Warren is proposing here.

 

It would circumvent the issue that impeachment is fruitless because Mitch McConnell will opt to protect Trump rather than hold him accountable. It would shift power to federal prosecutors, who are far less likely to be partisan figures and should theoretically place highest priority on simply upholding the rule of law.

 

I only wish it was a thing when we have a president who actively sh#ts on the rule of law, like we do now.

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44 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

I actually really like the idea Warren is proposing here.

 

It would circumvent the issue that impeachment is fruitless because Mitch McConnell will opt to protect Trump rather than hold him accountable. It would shift power to federal prosecutors, who are far less likely to be partisan figures and should theoretically place highest priority on simply upholding the rule of law.

 

I only wish it was a thing when we have a president who actively sh#ts on the rule of law, like we do now.

This is my thing. It would be great for situations just like this, but at the same time it does seem a bit knee jerk to me. I would rather our constitutional proccesses play out how they should rather than create an entirely new check on the President. Again, it would be fantastic to have in a scenario such as this, but in my opinion it puts us on a slippery slope with future presidents.

 

That said Trumps entire presidency is a slippery slope.

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54 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

This is my thing. It would be great for situations just like this, but at the same time it does seem a bit knee jerk to me. I would rather our constitutional proccesses play out how they should rather than create an entirely new check on the President. Again, it would be fantastic to have in a scenario such as this, but in my opinion it puts us on a slippery slope with future presidents.

 

That said Trumps entire presidency is a slippery slope.

It makes you wonder if this is just an anomaly or a new normal.

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58 minutes ago, jsneb83 said:

It makes you wonder if this is just an anomaly or a new normal.

 

 

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if Trump himself doesn’t decide to stage a coup, he’s taught people much smarter and more methodical than he is how to get it done. And as long as politics stay the way they are now in the U.S., the opportunity is still going to be there. I’m hoping this dies off with the baby boomers but we’ll see.

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I know a lot of people think all this anti-Trump hysteria is from people who are simply butthurt that Hillary lost, but I swear-to-God, Donald Trump ended up being far worse than I even imagined, and it's actually bizarre how much we've been forced to accept as normal.

 

And for me, less than 5% of this has anything to do with Russia.

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9 hours ago, Danny Bateman said:

I actually really like the idea Warren is proposing here.

 

It would circumvent the issue that impeachment is fruitless because Mitch McConnell will opt to protect Trump rather than hold him accountable. It would shift power to federal prosecutors, who are far less likely to be partisan figures and should theoretically place highest priority on simply upholding the rule of law.

 

I only wish it was a thing when we have a president who actively sh#ts on the rule of law, like we do now.

What country do you live in?

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4 hours ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

Sorry man, I don't buy what the far right is serving up. Conspiracy theories are bad.

 

Warren and the Left are serving up the idea that government lawyers should usurp the powers Constitutionally granted to the elected branches.  can the Democrats get any less democratic?

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8 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

 

Warren and the Left are serving up the idea that government lawyers should usurp the powers Constitutionally granted to the elected branches.  can the Democrats get any less democratic?

What if we made it possible for the DOJ to press charges and show the evidence to the House.  Then the house will vote to proceed with impeachment (kind of like a grand jury). Then the Senate takes care of the trial?

 

I think everyone currently is conflicted by Mueller’s lack of blatantly saying “our investigation found obstruction which is illegal.”  The report obviously found obstruction, But Trump supporters are left with enough wiggle room to make a poor argument.  Sadly, that’s all it takes for sides to dig in.

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The overriding issue here is this: Presidents who don't commit crimes wouldn't ever be indicted.

If hyperpartisanship and Mitch McConnell are going to break the one mechanism that could remove a criminal president, I fail to see why adding an additional check that is less political would be a bad idea.

 

Again, this would not affect presidents who are not criminals.

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45 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

The overriding issue here is this: Presidents who don't commit crimes wouldn't ever be indicted.

If hyperpartisanship and Mitch McConnell are going to break the one mechanism that could remove a criminal president, I fail to see why adding an additional check that is less political would be a bad idea.

 

Again, this would not affect presidents who are not criminals.

Keep telling yourself that.  Also remind yourself that Prosecutors tend Republican.

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59 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Keep telling yourself that.  Also remind yourself that Prosecutors tend Republican.

Whats your point? Are republican prosecuters going to indict democrat presidents for purely political reasons? Thats real honorable of them.

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2 hours ago, Nebfanatic said:

Whats your point? Are republican prosecuters going to indict democrat presidents for purely political reasons? Thats real honorable of them.

republicans impeached a democrat for getting a hummer....and will do everything possible to stop any investigation into a "republican"  who can't function unless he is breaking the law.

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16 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

can the Democrats get any less democratic?

 

Which political party keeps trying to gerrymander districts and put more barriers in place between people and voting? Which party keeps pushing for easier voting access and fair non-gerrymandered districts?

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6 minutes ago, Landlord said:

 

Which political party keeps trying to gerrymander districts and put more barriers in place between people and voting? Which party keeps pushing for easier voting access and fair non-gerrymandered districts?

both.  Now which party calls for socialism, importing foreign voters, and generally prefers SCOTUS to decide political questions?

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