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3 minutes ago, teachercd said:

You have to really be mushy to think that the Russian bots are actual people in the US.  

 

 

I look for them under my pillow every night before I go to bed.  I heard it on CNN, Russians are everywhere!!!  

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4 minutes ago, 4skers89 said:

I look for them under my pillow every night before I go to bed.  I heard it on CNN, Russians are everywhere!!!  

Dude, I totally get it if they are online doing s#!t, sure, I can believe that.  But to think there are like hundreds of thousands of sleeper cells in the US...I mean...I loved 24 too but I didn't think it was a documentary.  

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41 minutes ago, 4skers89 said:

 

I'm glad you brought these "criminals" up.  I looked into the Michael Flynn and Roger Stone cases and have concluded they were caught up in the Russia witch hunt AKA Russian hoax and their charges were of the nature that anyone of us could be convicted of if the government wanted to get us.  The whole investigation was based on one lie after another supported by MSM.  I encourage everyone to take a close look at what happened because it's very frightening the abuse of power that occurred.  Listen to what happened to this poor lady.

 

Seriously? Stone was negotiating with Russia as an unauthorized citizen. Any of us could be under investigation for that and subsequently lie to the feds about it? I think not. 

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4 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Dude, I totally get it if they are online doing s#!t, sure, I can believe that.  But to think there are like hundreds of thousands of sleeper cells in the US...I mean...I loved 24 too but I didn't think it was a documentary.  

Do you know about China's 50 cent army?

 

BTW, your friend might get pushed out by the teacher's union.  They are demanding charter schools be shut down before they agree to reopen schools in the fall because COVID.

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Just now, 4skers89 said:

Do you know about China's 50 cent army?

 

BTW, your friend might get pushed out by the teacher's union.  They are demanding charter schools be shut down before they agree to reopen schools in the fall because COVID.

Too late...he started the school...he was head of the school...and then the school board was about to vote him out so he resigned.  Ha...

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2 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

Seriously? Stone was negotiating with Russia as an unauthorized citizen. Any of us could be under investigation for that and subsequently lie to the feds about it? I think not. 

It was Flynn that was being investigated for that.  Recently released notes from one of these FBI weasels show it was Biden that came up with going after Flynn on the Logan Act.   Even after Flynn was interviewed the FBI thought Flynn did nothing wrong.  Stone was convicted on answers to some innocuous gotcha questions when he testified.  

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1 hour ago, 4skers89 said:

Trade deal was a start in addressing the trade imbalance.  Pompeo is a rock star.  The trade deal was an opportunity for China to show good faith and actually follow through on a deal.  I doubt anyone thought they would.  Rather than renege they sent us a virus.

 

Maybe because we were engaged in a trade war???

So.... unemployment reduction hasn’t increased. GDP hasn’t grown faster. No noticeable sign that factories are coming back to the US. Deficit skyrocketed. 
 

But, Obama bad....Trump amazing. 

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52 minutes ago, 4skers89 said:

It was Flynn that was being investigated for that.  Recently released notes from one of these FBI weasels show it was Biden that came up with going after Flynn on the Logan Act.   Even after Flynn was interviewed the FBI thought Flynn did nothing wrong.  Stone was convicted on answers to some innocuous gotcha questions when he testified.  

My apologies about the mixup 

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1 hour ago, 4skers89 said:

It was Flynn that was being investigated for that.  Recently released notes from one of these FBI weasels show it was Biden that came up with going after Flynn on the Logan Act.   Even after Flynn was interviewed the FBI thought Flynn did nothing wrong.  Stone was convicted on answers to some innocuous gotcha questions when he testified.  

 

SUPER DOOPER gonna need a link to show that's true hombre. :D

 

 

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2 hours ago, teachercd said:

You have to really be mushy to think that the Russian bots are actual people in the US.  

 

 

 

I believe there was a credible report back in 2017 that there was an office in the Kremlin where Putin employed a couple dozen Russian millennials whose full time job was to disrupt American social media by generating millions of politically divisive memes. In a sick way, that would have been a fun job.

 

Fun fact: they haven't stopped. 

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4 hours ago, 4skers89 said:

I think Pompeo is a rock star.  Very smart and I haven't detected Trump and Pompeo being out of synch. Trump has ruffled a lot of feathers but he looks at things from a businessman's perspective.  When he sees us spending billions on defense to protect allies that aren't paying their agreed upon share he's gong to put America first and ask for money.  I think he's gained respect by doing this and is putting US back in more of a leadership role and less a door mat.  Look at the Huawei situation.  If Trump hadn't lead, many countries would have given in.  Its quite incredible given how China gets their hooks into a country.  China plays dirty so I want a President willing to hit below the belt.

 

Allow me to "red pill" you as you've said. 

 

Trump looks at things from the perspective of a sh#tty businessman who got his fortune from daddy and failed upward all the way to the White House. He had to have daddy cover his casino losses and still managed to bankrupt them. He generated the vast amount of his wealth licensing his family name to whoever would pay him for it, refusing to pay bills, stiffing working joes and convincing a bunch of rubes that his reality TV persona was legitimately who he was.

 

Of all his policies, his foreign policy is particularly impotent and ineffective. Pompeo is not taken seriously on a world stage because, well, he's SOS for Trump, who most of the world views as a laughingstock and a childish nuisance. There's absolutely no way Trump has gained us any respect during his term. Our closest allies clearly don't respect him, as they have recently been busy blowing off G7 summits and trade agreement ceremonies, probably because he was doing dumb s#!t like inviting Putin here for a pow-wow when he was putting bounties on our troops' heads. We're banned from going to lots of other countries right now because he's f#&%ed up the COVID situation so badly.  See these embarrassing figures:

 

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We weren't a doormat before; Obama merely welcomed the use of diplomacy and soft power rather than eschewing it and thinking projecting a faux tough guy image at all times was a legitimate foreign policy. Trump, in spite of himself, does at times understand how to diagnose a problem correctly and can have decent instincts in identifying some populist positions, but he has no idea how to get from point A to point B to solve problems. Just none whatsoever. It's all empty rhetoric and bluster.

 

For all his empty words and 2+ years of a trade war with China, what concrete results has he gotten? He's crippled our farmers access to their markets and kept them on the government teat. American manufacturing has been going through a recession and is only now starting to improve, likely owing to secondary effects following our COVID lockdowns. Both are direct effects of his trade war.

 

At some point it's just lunacy to not admit Trump just isn't very good at his current job and certainly not delivering on his promises.

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2 hours ago, knapplc said:

 

SUPER DOOPER gonna need a link to show that's true hombre. :D

 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/strzok-comey-obama-biden-flynn-case

https://www.theepochtimes.com/despite-stream-of-exculpatory-evidence-fbi-kept-pushing-flynn-investigation-documents-indicate_3420903.html

 

VDH explains it best how we got to this point, what the deep state is, how this whole thing is coming undone.  As he said the onion is being peeled.  Tonight Lindsay Graham said there are some real criminal things that occurred so hopefully these bad deep state actors can be held accountable.  VDH also explains what progressives are and how they are using identity politics, definitely worth watching.  If you like the constitution you probably shouldn't be a progressive.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

Allow me to "red pill" you as you've said. 

 

Trump looks at things from the perspective of a sh#tty businessman who got his fortune from daddy and failed upward all the way to the White House. He had to have daddy cover his casino losses and still managed to bankrupt them. He generated the vast amount of his wealth licensing his family name to whoever would pay him for it, refusing to pay bills, stiffing working joes and convincing a bunch of rubes that his reality TV persona was legitimately who he was.

 

Of all his policies, his foreign policy is particularly impotent and ineffective. Pompeo is not taken seriously on a world stage because, well, he's SOS for Trump, who most of the world views as a laughingstock and a childish nuisance. There's absolutely no way Trump has gained us any respect during his term. Our closest allies clearly don't respect him, as they have recently been busy blowing off G7 summits and trade agreement ceremonies, probably because he was doing dumb s#!t like inviting Putin here for a pow-wow when he was putting bounties on our troops' heads. We're banned from going to lots of other countries right now because he's f#&%ed up the COVID situation so badly.  See these embarrassing figures:

 

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We weren't a doormat before; Obama merely welcomed the use of diplomacy and soft power rather than eschewing it and thinking projecting a faux tough guy image at all times was a legitimate foreign policy. Trump, in spite of himself, does at times understand how to diagnose a problem correctly and can have decent instincts in identifying some populist positions, but he has no idea how to get from point A to point B to solve problems. Just none whatsoever. It's all empty rhetoric and bluster.

 

For all his empty words and 2+ years of a trade war with China, what concrete results has he gotten? He's crippled our farmers access to their markets and kept them on the government teat. American manufacturing has been going through a recession and is only now starting to improve, likely owing to secondary effects following our COVID lockdowns. Both are direct effects of his trade war.

 

At some point it's just lunacy to not admit Trump just isn't very good at his current job and certainly not delivering on his promises.

I was watching DW news the other day and they were talking about polls.  The media activist, formerly known as a reporter, said Trump's racist platform doesn't seem to be working. :facepalm:   Trump bashing is a world wide sport.

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8 minutes ago, 4skers89 said:

I was watching DW news the other day and they were talking about polls.  The media activist, formerly known as a reporter, said Trump's racist platform doesn't seem to be working. :facepalm:   Trump bashing is a world wide sport.

 

I'm always curious with folks who view the world the way you do:
 

How much of it do you think he brings on himself?

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16 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

I believe there was a credible report back in 2017 that there was an office in the Kremlin where Putin employed a couple dozen Russian millennials whose full time job was to disrupt American social media by generating millions of politically divisive memes. In a sick way, that would have been a fun job.

 

Fun fact: they haven't stopped. 

Small potatoes compared to China's 50 cent army.  I mess with them by telling them that I got their Shen yun tickets when they visit the US and be careful because if their boss found out they'll get their organs harvested.

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