The 2020 Presidential Election - Convention & General Election

[commando]

well...this does it.  guess i will vote for trump,  the taliban endorsement is too much to ignore.   

 

 

[Danny Bateman]

1 hour ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Strongest economy in living memory

 

This one is pretty silly.

 

That's like saying Nebraska actually beat Texas in the 2009 Big XII Championship Game... for 59 minutes and 59 seconds.

 

We can't just ignore the final :01. Just like we can't fondly look back at the economy Trump built before he squandered it. A lot of people are voting on the economy we have now, which is pretty rough.

[Ratt Mhule]

1 hour ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

I've always accepted that Trump could be the most successful one term President in American history. To name a few:

 

Strongest economy in living memory

Peace Treaty between Israel and Arab Nations

Exposition of Political Law Enforcement

Confrontation of China's Expansion

Commuting many disproportionate drug prison sentences.

So good hes down by 15 points lol. Its over baby!

[Ratt Mhule]

19 minutes ago, commando said:

well...this does it.  guess i will vote for trump,  the taliban endorsement is too much to ignore.   

 

 

This is one of those things that Im torn on. For one, the taliban are evil, religious fundamentalists. On the other hand, I actually dont want to be at war til the end of time and anytime these articles are posted I dont know which part people get mad at. I suppose some get mad bc its the taliban. And some get

mad because it talks about bringing the troops home. Id rather get out of war than be mad because the taliban wants us out. 

[Moiraine]

38 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

This one is pretty silly.

 

That's like saying Nebraska actually beat Texas in the 2009 Big XII Championship Game... for 59 minutes and 59 seconds.

 

We can't just ignore the final :01. Just like we can't fondly look back at the economy Trump built before he squandered it. A lot of people are voting on the economy we have now, which is pretty rough.

 

 

It's sillier than that because Trump would've been responsible for only our final scoring play.

[DevoHusker]

2 hours ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

This one is pretty silly.

 

That's like saying Nebraska actually beat Texas in the 2009 Big XII Championship Game... for 59 minutes and 59 seconds.

 

We can't just ignore the final :01. Just like we can't fondly look back at the economy Trump built before he squandered it. A lot of people are voting on the economy we have now, which is pretty rough.

tbf, no matter who was POTUS the last 7 months, the economy would have tanked because of the pandemic. 

[Moiraine]

4 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

tbf, no matter who was POTUS the last 7 months, the economy would have tanked because of the pandemic. 

 

 

I think this is most likely correct. I think several options at president would have handled the pandemic better, however it's obvious based on how it's going in other countries across the world that it wouldn't have been stopped and therefore there would have been a big economic impact. Unless the group that Obama set up in 2014 that Trump shut down was that awesome.

[commando]

3 hours ago, knapplc said:

Maybe instead of dreaming up stunts like this he should be working to fix the economy.

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

4 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Strongest economy in living memory

You really just need to stop with this myth. 

[DevoHusker]

15 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

I think this is most likely correct. I think several options at president would have handled the pandemic better, however it's obvious based on how it's going in other countries across the world that it wouldn't have been stopped and therefore there would have been a big economic impact. Unless the group that Obama set up in 2014 that Trump shut down was that awesome.

Agree 100%

[Notre Dame Joe]

7 hours ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

This one is pretty silly.

 

That's like saying Nebraska actually beat Texas in the 2009 Big XII Championship Game... for 59 minutes and 59 seconds.

 

We can't just ignore the final :01. Just like we can't fondly look back at the economy Trump built before he squandered it. A lot of people are voting on the economy we have now, which is pretty rough.

 

 

 

We just can't ignore that FDR for a failed to keep the peace.  

 

8 hours ago, knapplc said:

 

 

Except:

 

Strongest economy in living memory - inherited from Obama, which trump has not improved upon

Peace Treaty between Israel and Arab Nations - Jimmy Carter's was more impactful & far more historic

Exposition of Political Law Enforcement - This... isn't a thing

Confrontation of China's Expansion - He has done nothing to stop China. Like, at all.

Commuting many disproportionate drug prison sentences - He's only issued eleven total commutations. By way of comparison, Obama issued 1,385 in eight years.

 

And if these are trump's most important accomplishments, frankly that's sad. It means he's done basically nothing in four years. Which, to be honest, we know is true because live-tweeting Fox & Friends isn't really part of the job.

 

 

 

Way Better than Obama's "new normal"

 

Carter got that one right and otherwise useless. 

 

Just because you agree with Obama-Biden's anti-democracy measures doesn't mean they didn't happen.

 

Check the news on China once in a while.

 

Thousands of people out of prison and a reform bill passed.  Note many were stuck with disproportionate sentences because of Biden's only legislative "achievement."

 

 

 

[knapplc]

7 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

 

 

 

We just can't ignore that FDR for a failed to keep the peace.  

 

 

Way Better than Obama's "new normal"

 

Carter got that one right and otherwise useless. 

 

Just because you agree with Obama-Biden's anti-democracy measures doesn't mean they didn't happen.

 

Check the news on China once in a while.

 

Thousands of people out of prison and a reform bill passed.  Note many were stuck with disproportionate sentences because of Biden's only legislative "achievement."

 

 

 

 

 

Way Better than Obama's "new normal" - Trump will go down as the only president in history to have fewer jobs when he leaves office than when he started. The economy is in a shambles, trump has no plan to fix it, and instead is holding dictator rallies from balconies. Great dude you're supporting.

 

Carter got that one right and otherwise useless. - So you agree this isn't much of an accomplishment by trump. Good.

 

Just because you agree with Obama-Biden's anti-democracy measures doesn't mean they didn't happen. - Perhaps you'd be so kind as to say exactly what you mean here, because so far this point isn't making sense. And frankly, if no one knows what you're talking about, this isn't much of an accomplishment and wouldn't lend itself to the idea that trump was a good one-term president. Because by no measure was he even a decent president. He's done more to improve the legacy of Jimmy Carter than anything - Carter's no longer the worst president in the modern era. Ford & Nixon should be appreciative as well.

 

Check the news on China once in a while. - I'm well aware of China's expanding influence across the globe, militarily, economically, diplomatically, all filling in voids left by trump's actions. 

 

Thousands of people out of prison and a reform bill passed.  Meaningless gestures. You're talking about the same guy who wants to fully prosecute people for vandalizing Confederate statues, who promotes lawless extra-judiciary killings in the streets, who restarted federal executions. He's encouraged the use of excessive police force against people exercising their First Amendment rights.

 

Note many were stuck with disproportionate sentences because of Biden's only legislative "achievement." Not only is this an untruth, but on top of all the above (and that's just a brief list, there's tons more he got wrong), this signature piece of legislation you're touting was undercut, underfunded, secretly changed to be less inclusive and challenged in court by... guess who... TRUMP HIMSELF. The whole thing was theater.

 

 

[Moiraine]

Iowa is trending up for Biden recently.

 

 

Polling Data

Poll	Date	Sample	MoE	Biden (D)	Trump (R)	Spread
RCP Average	9/14 - 10/9	--	--	47.5	46.3	Biden +1.2
CBS News/YouGov	10/6 - 10/9	1035 LV	3.5	49	49	Tie
Quinnipiac	10/1 - 10/5	1256 LV	2.8	50	45	Biden +5
WHO-TV 13	9/23 - 9/26	780 LV	4.0	48	46	Biden +2
Monmouth*	9/18 - 9/22	402 LV	4.9	46	49	Trump +3
NY Times/Siena*	9/16 - 9/21	501 LV	5.0	45	42	Biden +3
Des Moines Register	9/14 - 9/17	658 LV	3.8	47	47	Tie
Monmouth*	7/30 - 8/3	401 LV	4.9	46	48	Trump +2
Des Moines Register	6/7 - 6/10	674 LV	3.8	43	44	Trump +1
PPP (D)	4/30 - 5/1	1222 RV	2.8	46	48	Trump +2
Des Moines Register	3/2 - 3/5	667 LV	3.8	41	51	Trump +10
NY Times/Siena	1/20 - 1/23	1689 RV	2.8	44	46	Trump +2
PPP (D)	12/29 - 12/31	964 RV	3.2	46	49	Trump +3
Emerson	12/7 - 12/10	1043 RV	3.0	45	49	Trump +4
NY Times/Siena	10/25 - 10/30	1435 RV	3.1	44	45	Trump +1
Emerson	10/13 - 10/16	888 RV	3.2	49	51	Trump +2
Emerson	3/21 - 3/24	708 RV	3.6	53	47	Biden +6
Emerson	1/30 - 2/2	831 RV	3.4	51	49	Biden +2

[commando]

 

[Cdog923]

On 10/8/2020 at 8:39 AM, teachercd said:

This thing is sooooo over.

 

 

**** that nonsense; keep working like its 0-0.