The 2020 Presidential Election - Convention & General Election

[Ratt Mhule]

Biden hasnt been in a super Tuesday state in over 30 days! Wtf! This guy has the most unorganized campaign Ive ever seen and he thinks he can beat Trump who holds a rally every week it seems like. He put all of his eggs into SC, a state he will not win in November and now hes screwed come Tuesday. 

[Guy Chamberlin]

1 hour ago, Frott Scost said:

Biden hasnt been in a super Tuesday state in over 30 days! Wtf! This guy has the most unorganized campaign Ive ever seen and he thinks he can beat Trump who holds a rally every week it seems like. He put all of his eggs into SC, a state he will not win in November and now hes screwed come Tuesday. 

 

Biden doesn't have the money.

 

Tom Steyer spent millions in South Carolina, and it worked, kinda, taking him from dead last to a third place finish. 

 

And that was the best his millions could do.  Bloomberg has a lot more money and will do better, but not well enough.

 

Many anti-Sanders Democrats are already  swarming to Biden after this showing, and some money might follow, but it's not going to happen in the 48 hours before Super Tuesday. 

 

There will be immense pressure on the moderate Dems in the single digits to fold, and to create a narrative and path to victory for Biden even when he loses fairly big on Super Tuesday. It's gonna be a lively convention.

[Guy Chamberlin]

1 hour ago, BlitzFirst said:

FYI...I just got an email today from the Bernie campaign.  They announced that they raised 46 million during February.

 

Mind blowing.  No one else is doing that.  350k new donors.  2.4 million total donations.  1.2 million of those people will vote on Super Tuesday.

 

Say what you will about Bernie and socialism, but if the message is proving what the American majority can do in the face of a powerful entrenched minority (and it is), those $27 average donations speak volumes.  

[Landlord]

7 hours ago, teachercd said:

I mean...not if he is calling it the wrong name and doesn't seem to know the difference and thinks it is something totally different than what it really is and what he has stood for his entire life.  If anything, that is scary as f#&%.

 

 

I didn't see Bernie call it democratic socialist in the video, only the video called it that. 

[teachercd]

1 hour ago, Landlord said:

 

 

I didn't see Bernie call it democratic socialist in the video, only the video called it that. 

Just to b1 100% clear...you are saying that if you don't see it in a video...it did not happen.  Correct?

[RedDenver]

9 hours ago, teachercd said:

I mean...not if he is calling it the wrong name and doesn't seem to know the difference and thinks it is something totally different than what it really is and what he has stood for his entire life.  If anything, that is scary as f#&%.

Sweden, like every other country, has a mix of capitalism and socialism. Bernie is pointing to parts of their laws and economy as similar to his own proposals.

[Nebfanatic]

8 hours ago, ActualCornHusker said:

 

 It's almost as if Bernie is just a tyrant who advocates for the government takeover of entire industries...

It's actually not but keep pumping out the fear mongering 

[RedDenver]

Goes through several scenarios in that thread.

[RedDenver]

Buttigieg drops out. I thought he'd at least make it to Super Tuesday, but maybe he's struck a deal to be Biden's VP.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/us/politics/pete-buttigieg-drops-out.html

[Danny Bateman]

28 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Sweden, like every other country, has a mix of capitalism and socialism. Bernie is pointing to parts of their laws and economy as similar to his own proposals.

 

And Sweden, and every other Nordic country he points to as models for his programs, have wildly different government structures and much smaller populations who are purposely kept much less diverse through stricter immigration rules than we have here.

 

Pointing to these countries because they've implemented programs he would like has always been suspect. Enacting and maintaining such programs here is wildly different than doing so over there.

 

It's why I've never been satisfied with his answer on how we actually get M4A done. "We're the richest country ever and somehow everyone else has done it" completely ignores the political reality of having essentially no votes in the Senate for the current iteration of his bill.

 

 

[Notre Dame Joe]

 

21 hours ago, Danny Bateman said:

Steyer dropped out.

 

All in all a good night. A two man race with Biden is probably the worst case scenario for Sanders. Don't know if Biden could pull it off given how much Dems like Bernie, but probably also the best chance we have for not getting BTFO in November. 

 

9 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Buttigieg drops out. I thought he'd at least make it to Super Tuesday, but maybe he's struck a deal to be Biden's VP.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/us/politics/pete-buttigieg-drops-out.html

 

The Iowa winner or top-finisher drops out before Super Tuesday??  That has to be unprecedented.

 

Warren says she "had a job to do"

 

 

Anyone who thinks this race is a plot to derail Bernie has some good reasons.

[Danny Bateman]

7 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

 

 

 

The Iowa winner or top-finisher drops out before Super Tuesday??  That has to be unprecedented.

 

Warren says she "had a job to do"

 

 

Anyone who thinks this race is a plot to derail Bernie has some good reasons.

 

Ahhh yes, dropping out of a race you clearly aren't going to win is some nefarious conspiracy.

It's no surprise you're such a big Trump fan.

[teachercd]

1 hour ago, RedDenver said:

Sweden, like every other country, has a mix of capitalism and socialism. Bernie is pointing to parts of their laws and economy as similar to his own proposals.

Exactly...just like every other country...including America.

[teachercd]

33 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

And Sweden, and every other Nordic country he points to as models for his programs, have wildly different government structures and much smaller populations who are purposely kept much less diverse through stricter immigration rules than we have here.

 

Pointing to these countries because they've implemented programs he would like has always been suspect. Enacting and maintaining such programs here is wildly different than doing so over there.

 

It's why I've never been satisfied with his answer on how we actually get M4A done. "We're the richest country ever and somehow everyone else has done it" completely ignores the political reality of having essentially no votes in the Senate for the current iteration of his bill.

 

 

This is like when small high schools say "We are so much better than those big schools, that have problems like truancy, vaping and fights, they should do it just like us!"

 

 

[RedDenver]

1 hour ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

And Sweden, and every other Nordic country he points to as models for his programs, have wildly different government structures and much smaller populations who are purposely kept much less diverse through stricter immigration rules than we have here.

 

Pointing to these countries because they've implemented programs he would like has always been suspect. Enacting and maintaining such programs here is wildly different than doing so over there.

 

It's why I've never been satisfied with his answer on how we actually get M4A done. "We're the richest country ever and somehow everyone else has done it" completely ignores the political reality of having essentially no votes in the Senate for the current iteration of his bill.

Pointing to an example that already exists simply shows that it's possible and gives an idea of what the goal is.

 

And whether there are enough votes in the Senate now, doesn't mean there won't be at some point. Politics is changing.

 

Edited to add:

 

39 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Exactly...just like every other country...including America.

Yes... and?