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The 2020 Presidential Election - Convention & General Election

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1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said:

Who said that one policy would fix everything? 

 

Good point, lots of focus on one policy that will never pass through congress.

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7 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:

Another lowly peasant employee for you to abuse and get rich off of huh? :lol:

Dude, I responded to your post in the Dbag thread.  

 

Some people are unreal.

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6 minutes ago, FrankWheeler said:

 

Good point, lots of focus on one policy that will never pass through congress.

I agree, I can't imagine something like this (this insane) would get passed.  But who knows...

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10 minutes ago, FrankWheeler said:

 

Good point, lots of focus on one policy that will never pass through congress.

Yea that seems a bit extreme for even a dem controlled congress. But there are some other proposals in his plan  that I think could and should pass like education for retiring business owners and employees on how to sell the retiring owners business over to the employees I think that is a really good idea.

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4 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

Yea that seems a bit extreme for even a dem controlled congress. But there are some other proposals in his plan  that I think could and should pass like education for retiring business owners and employees on how to sell the retiring owners business over to the employees I think that is a really good idea.

Agreed.

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Sorry, I guess I started this company stealing tangent by asking for more information on Bernie's plan. It's probably a bad issue to focus on since it will never be allowed to happen. Unfortunately a bunch of people have reminded me why I will never be a Democrat or embrace some of these head shaking socialist tendencies.

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4 hours ago, Nebfanatic said:

Who said that one policy would fix everything? 

The fierce defense of Bernie's plan seems to tell us that.  Of course it won't fix everything.  But I don't think it helps anything at the root cause level. 

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I only got to see the last half of the debate last night.  I understand that it was a rough and tumble affair - more so than the debate prior. 

 

Please tell me your unbiased review of the debate.  Did Bernie defend himself well?  Did any of the others make a compelling case why they should be considered? 

 

The little bit I saw:

Bernie - besides the 20% employee ownership discussion, I think most of us agree that the issues he brings up are vitally important. Again, is his plan to pay for it doable and can he get it through Congress AND is America ready for that big of an adjustment (paying for it)

Biden is having some mental/forgetfulness issues.  I'm not sure if that was apparent throughout but it did give me pause. He stumbles over words, corrects himself, etc. He did have a funny line about being too polite having learned it in Catholic school. (He was complaining on why does he stop talking on time when the others don't)

Warren - I was impressed by the small amount I saw from her.   To Bernie supporters: why do you support Bernie over Warren -seem she has less baggage and yet their policies aren't far apart?  Yes Bernie is the 'pioneer' and a fighter and true believer but the socialist label won't wear well in the GC.  Seems to me that Warren would be a better spokesperson for the causes with a smaller target on her back.  

Amy K - still the most likeable but this isn't a personality contest.  I think she would be a good VP pick.

Tom S - the other billionaire.  First time I really heard him.   I think he had some good things to say and would be an effective debater one on one wt Trump.  He seems to be much more appealing than Bloom.

Plastic Platitude Pete was just that.  He's smart, says the right things but can he back it up.

Bloom - shouldn't be on the stage

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11 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

The fierce defense of Bernie's plan seems to tell us that.  Of course it won't fix everything.  But I don't think it helps anything at the root cause level. 

 

I went back through and read the last few pages again, who is fiercely defending Bernie's worker shareholder plan? 

 

Here are comments from some people who seem to be supporting Sanders.  

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I don't know how I feel about that plan of Bernie's, 

 

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I guess I am not totally on board with this, either.

 

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I'm not sure if Bernie's plan is the best one

 

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Yea that seems a bit extreme for even a dem controlled congress.

 

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3 minutes ago, FrankWheeler said:

went back through and read the last few pages again, who is fiercely defending Bernie's worker shareholder plan?

I think you missed Landlord's and Blitz's posts.  - my primary aim.

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1 minute ago, TGHusker said:

I think you missed Landlord's and Blitz's posts.  - my primary aim.

 

The first quote was Landlords :dunno

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2 hours ago, Nebfanatic said:

One particular idea I like besides the banning of stock buy backs is the idea to educate retiring business owners and employees in employee ownership and working to help retiring owners sell businesses to their employees with low interest government loans. I think that is a very solid idea personally. 

Fine, as long as selling to the employees isn't required.  If it's still the choice of the retiring...fine....educate away.  The more information the better.

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1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said:

Fine, as long as selling to the employees isn't required.  If it's still the choice of the retiring...fine....educate away.  The more information the better.

The proposal I am referring to is simply an education center on this subject and government loans designed to help employees accomplish this sort of sale without devaluing the company for the owner. I like that idea. I think I fall into @Landlord's camp on this whole thing. I don't agree with everything Bernie is proposing in that arena but I certainly can see why it is being proposed and I think there are some good ideas that can be taken from the plan. 

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2 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

The proposal I am referring to is simply an education center on this subject and government loans designed to help employees accomplish this sort of sale without devaluing the company for the owner. I like that idea. I think I fall into @Landlord's camp on this whole thing. I don't agree with everything Bernie is proposing in that arena but I certainly can see why it is being proposed and I think there are some good ideas that can be taken from the plan. 

I guess this is where I am at too. The system is broken and we need some ideas on how to fix it. Doing what we are doing now is destroying the very thing most of us want.

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