The 2020 Presidential Election - Convention & General Election

[teachercd]

The stupidest that has ever happened is the fake outrage over hiring family...

 

Biden 100% should use his name/connections to get his kids jobs...So should Trump...so should all of us.  Parents help their kids.

[knapplc]

12 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

This could get interesting...

 

 

 

 

Why wait?  Nobody gives a rat's a$$ about Hunter Biden, but everyone is against nepotism and corruption in the White House.

 

If you've got evidence, out with it, ya stooges!

[Nebfanatic]

43 minutes ago, teachercd said:

The stupidest that has ever happened is the fake outrage over hiring family...

 

Biden 100% should use his name/connections to get his kids jobs...So should Trump...so should all of us.  Parents help their kids.

Can you just stop with this? There is a difference between helping your kids and corrupt grifting

[teachercd]

5 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

Can you just stop with this? There is a difference between helping your kids and corrupt grifting

No.  None of this was corrupt.  It was parents using their connections to get their kids jobs.

 

They are not getting them jobs as ER surgeons.  Or fighter pilots.  Jobs where you actually need years of training...

 

All of us are unqualified for our jobs until we get the job and try it out. 

[knapplc]

 

[teachercd]

#AlmostHuman

Johnny 5, from Short Circuit, is more human than her.

[Guy Chamberlin]

1 hour ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

We'd be in a better place today as a country if Cruz and Rubio and Kasich and Fiorina and Christie and Jeb! and whoever else had banded together to be honest about the dangers of a Trump presidency. 
 

Instead they all stayed in too long fighting each other rather than confronting him together and any of them still in government became subservient to him.

 

Well I think a lot of the 2016 Republicans dropped out in time to rally around a non-Trump candidate, and that candidate was Ted Cruz, the second most hated Republican among Republicans. 

 

The moderate Republicans never caught fire and never had a chance. Neither party understood the will or motives of their own voters. 

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

23 minutes ago, teachercd said:

No.  None of this was corrupt.  It was parents using their connections to get their kids jobs.

 

They are not getting them jobs as ER surgeons.  Or fighter pilots.  Jobs where you actually need years of training...

 

All of us are unqualified for our jobs until we get the job and try it out. 

 

Trump put his son-in-law in charge of forging peace in the Middle East. 

 

Ivanka was put in charge of job creation. 

[teachercd]

6 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Trump put his son-in-law in charge of forging peace in the Middle East. 

 

Ivanka was put in charge of job creation. 

Well, lets see...the middle east has been in turmoil and fighting for 6,000 years...so pretty sure it doesn't matter who is in charge of that.

 

And isn't unemployment super low?

[Danny Bateman]

7 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Well I think a lot of the 2016 Republicans dropped out in time to rally around a non-Trump candidate, and that candidate was Ted Cruz, the second most hated Republican among Republicans. 

 

The moderate Republicans never caught fire and never had a chance. Neither party understood the will or motives of their own voters. 

 

 

Not soon enough, IMO. They all thought that once it was just them and Trump, they would be the one to make a reasoned case against him and save their party from certain destruction. 

 

But they all stayed in too long and jockeyed for 2nd place amongst each other instead of coordinating their fire on Trump. If he was going to be stopped, it needed to happen earlier and it needed to be a team effort. 

 

You could see it even once they dropped out. All of them, save Kasich, were too afraid of him and the potential of a HIllary Clinton presidency (ironically, would have been much easier for Republicans to be out of power and much better for the country) to forcefully speak out against him once they bowed out.

 

I do agree that him winning reveals that they fundamentally misunderstood who their base was and what they wanted.

 

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

21 hours ago, ActualCornHusker said:

 

And to add to it, Warren staying in really hurt Bernie as well

 

Maybe not so much. Both Warren and Bloomberg were in for Super Tuesday. Bloomberg had bigger numbers, and 100% of those will transfer to Biden. Warren's lesser numbers weren't a lock for Bernie at all. 

 

Did you know that the people who sit in rooms and craft political discord are advancing a narrative that Trump and Sanders supporters can share?  The one where Bernie Sanders was robbed by colluding Democrats? 

 

It's kinda funny. But kinda not. 

[Danny Bateman]

5 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Well, lets see...the middle east has been in turmoil and fighting for 6,000 years...so pretty sure it doesn't matter who is in charge of that.

 

And isn't unemployment super low?

 

Both of them needed Daddy to intervene for them to even get security clearances. The professionals whose job it is to decide such things thought they shouldn't get them.

 

And please don't tell me you think Ivanka has anything to do with unemployment. She's too busy soaking up Chinese trademarks she doesn't deserve as a favor to Daddy.

[teachercd]

3 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

Both of them needed Daddy to intervene for them to even get security clearances. The professionals whose job it is to decide such things thought they shouldn't get them.

 

And please don't tell me you think Ivanka has anything to do with unemployment. She's too busy soaking up Chinese trademarks she doesn't deserve as a favor to Daddy.

So we admit that the Middle East is and has been a f#&%ing mess for 6000 years.  Doesn't matter who is in charge of making it peaceful, it is not happening.  We both know that we (the US) should not even be trying to "create peace" in the middle east...it just makes things worse.

 

And the person who is in charge of creating jobs (I honestly had no clue it was her, I didn't even know what her title was) has like record low unemployment.  Does she have anything to do with that?  My guess is no...but clearly something is working (no pun intended).

 

Just like that Biden kid...his gig was sweet.  He was probably just as average at that job as anyone else would have been.  If his name had been Bob Schmeckie and his aunt got him the job, no one would care.

Oh and I don't think anyone but certain people should have top secret clearance.  That should be really hard to get.

[Guy Chamberlin]

1 minute ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

Not soon enough, IMO. They all thought that once it was just them and Trump, they would be the one to make a reasoned case against him and save their party from certain destruction. 

 

But they all stayed in too long and jockeyed for 2nd place amongst each other instead of coordinating their fire on Trump. If he was going to be stopped, it needed to happen earlier and it needed to be a team effort. 

 

You could see it even once they dropped out. All of them, save Kasich, were too afraid of him and the potential of a HIllary Clinton presidency (ironically, would have been much easier for Republicans to be out of power and much better for the country) to forcefully speak out against him once they bowed out.

 

I do agree that him winning reveals that they fundamentally misunderstood who their base was and what they wanted.

 

 

 

It was a team effort against Trump. The Kochs and Sheldon Adelson's of the world all had their candidate, and it wasn't Trump. The RNC did not want Trump. Rupert Murdoch did not want Trump, and when Fox News hosted the debate, it was designed to take Trump out. Remember the very first question? "Will you agree right here to support whatever Republican wins the nomination?" Every GOP candidate says yes. Except Trump. By flushing out Trump's lack of party loyalty -- especially in the face of Hillary Clinton -- they thought he would be marginalized and his early lead in the polls would plummet. But Trump supporters actually appreciated the candor. Being the outsider was his biggest appeal. 

 

Subsequent debates featured more attacks on Donald Trump than on Hillary Clinton. Jeb! got out surprisingly early. Nobody else had any independent traction save for Cruz. The field had been cleared with enough time for Kasich to step in and rally 100% of the Republican moderates, but it turns out there weren't that many. 

[teachercd]

I forgot about that first question!  Nice memory!