Jump to content
TGHusker

The 2020 Presidential Election - Convention & General Election

Recommended Posts

11 hours ago, TGHusker said:

The guy may need to be under suicide watch

The tickets they could sell for that would set records. It would be yuge :lol:

  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post

9 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Hate speech is free speech.  The only definition = speech that you hate to hear.  Every fake definition offered to censor the Trump campaign, happening every day so you know it is a concerted effort, would apply to BLM, Antifa and other Biden aligned groups.  But they won't be sanctioned because the powers like reading that kind of hate speech.

 

@funhusker We've known for a century that it's not a free market when a cartel controls it.  It's long past time to revoke Silicon Valley's immunity just like Industry and Wall Street had to be reigned in.  

 

 

Not at all NDJ, and you should know better.  You seem to talk like you know what's what with your posts...but you swung and missed on this one.

 

Hate speech is inciting violence toward a subset of Americans..  It's considered a crime.

 

It ENCOURAGES VIOLENCE.  This is the key indicator.  I don't care if you don't like a subset of human beings and express hatred of who they are, what they represent, or how they appear...but don't incite violence toward them.

 

This is what the subreddits were held accountable on...asked not to do...and did it anyway.

 

 

Nice try again though downplaying what was going on and making excuses for racists who want to incite a race war.

 

 

FYI, definition here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#United_States

 

Quote

Hate speech is defined by Cambridge Dictionary as "public speech that expresses hate or encourages violence towards a person or group based on something such as race, religion, sex, or sexual orientation"

...

 

There are several categories of speech that are not protected by the First Amendment, such as speech that calls for imminent violence upon a person or group. However, the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that hate speech that does not fall into one of these categories is constitutionally protected.

 

 

NDJ, today you learned that hate speech = calling for violence against a group or person = not covered by the 1st Amendment.

 

Share this post


Link to post
4 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

An example is pharmaceuticals which is one of the most regulated industries in the land.  And unsurprisingly they keep merging into fewer companies. 

 

 

Wow. Before your post I thought all regulations were good and it was impossible for there to be such a thing as bad regulations. Thank you for changing my mind wow.

  • Plus1 1

Share this post


Link to post
3 hours ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

 

Not at all NDJ, and you should know better.  You seem to talk like you know what's what with your posts...but you swung and missed on this one.

 

Hate speech is inciting violence toward a subset of Americans..  It's considered a crime.

 

It ENCOURAGES VIOLENCE.  This is the key indicator.  I don't care if you don't like a subset of human beings and express hatred of who they are, what they represent, or how they appear...but don't incite violence toward them.

 

This is what the subreddits were held accountable on...asked not to do...and did it anyway.

 

 

Nice try again though downplaying what was going on and making excuses for racists who want to incite a race war.

 

 

FYI, definition here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#United_States

 

 

 

NDJ, today you learned that hate speech = calling for violence against a group or person = not covered by the 1st Amendment.

 

Yeah that's wrong.  The people who attempt to define "hate speech" do NOT limit it to violence.  They include calls for violence because it sounds like a freebie, but they ignore it as long as it's directed against the right targets.

 

NSFH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CQDxefdyeE

 

And since that video will eventually be purged, it's one of many of Antifa screaming at police.  Which has only increased obviously since last month. Antifa is a community beloved by the same tech companies that ban conservatives and Trump supporters.

 

And if you were honest with yourself you would see that the Left is many times more hateful and violent than the Right.  I posted a parody a few weeks back to highlight the fact that Right wing extremists aren't destroying property and threatening liberals, unlike the Radicals who do it on an hourly basis. 

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post

A good article on why former Trump supporters can't support him in 2020. The election has all of the markings of an electoral landslide.

 

https://dnyuz.com/2020/07/01/meet-the-supporters-trump-has-lost/

 

Betting odds gives trump only a 33% chance of winning

https://www.actionnetwork.com/politics/2020-election-odds-presidential-race-donald-trump-joe-biden

  • Plus1 2

Share this post


Link to post
5 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Yeah that's wrong.  The people who attempt to define "hate speech" do NOT limit it to violence.  They include calls for violence because it sounds like a freebie, but they ignore it as long as it's directed against the right targets.

 

NSFH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CQDxefdyeE

 

And since that video will eventually be purged, it's one of many of Antifa screaming at police.  Which has only increased obviously since last month. Antifa is a community beloved by the same tech companies that ban conservatives and Trump supporters.

 

And if you were honest with yourself you would see that the Left is many times more hateful and violent than the Right.  I posted a parody a few weeks back to highlight the fact that Right wing extremists aren't destroying property and threatening liberals, unlike the Radicals who do it on an hourly basis. 

'

Ordinarily I'm in favor of letting hate speech go because it's protected free speech and it instantly ostracizes whomever said it from a societal perspective.

 

But surely we can't say such things on private platforms and have expectations of not facing repercussions. People do not have a constitutional right to say whatever inflammatory stuff they want on private platforms and get a free pass. If I got up today and started telling people how much I hated a certain race or gays, Huskerboard would rightly take action, up to an including a ban.

 

The Reddit story does not serve your argument. While they did ban biggest Trump subreddit, they also banned the largest far left subreddit, ChapoTrapHouse, whose ideology would make Bernie blush. Not because they didn't like their ideas, but because they consistently called for violence against politicians and broke Reddit's rules.  

 

Not really sure why you thin the Right is less violent than the left. Leftists are throwing paint on statues. Meanwhile:

 

gettyimages-830617832_ae8ef635cc2999d093

161214152504-john-mcgraw-trump-rally-pun

White-Supremacy-Report-2018-chapter-11a.\

In the United States, right-wing violence is on the rise

 

White nationalism-fueled violence is on the rise, but FBI is slow to call it domestic terrorism

 

U.S. sees steady rise in violence by white supremacists

  • Plus1 2
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
2 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

Not really sure why you thin the Right is less violent than the left.

No one does, in good faith. It is false equivalency whataboutism to make themselves feel better about their associations. 

  • Plus1 6

Share this post


Link to post
21 minutes ago, QMany said:

No one does, in good faith. It is false equivalency whataboutism to make themselves feel better about their associations. 

 

I mean I fully understand that NDJ comes here to push lazy right-wing memes moreso than discuss in good faith as our resident dogged Trump supporter, but sometimes it's fun to give him the benefit of the doubt that he actually hold some of his stated convictions.

  • Plus1 3

Share this post


Link to post

There may be some uptick since the protests/riots began, but generally:

 

https://www.npr.org/2017/06/16/533255619/fact-check-is-left-wing-violence-rising

 

Still, their numbers are tiny in relation to the mainstream political left. And, say experts, it's misleading for right-wing groups to suggest that the Antifa are more violent than right-wing extremists.

 

"The far left is very active in the United States, but it hasn't been particularly violent for some time," says Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism.

 

He says the numbers between the groups don't compare.

"In the past 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders," Pitcavage says.

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
10 hours ago, BlitzFirst said:

NDJ, today you learned that hate speech = calling for violence against a group or person = not covered by the 1st Amendment.

The bolded part is wrong. Not all hate speech incites violence.

 

Hate speech is protected under the 1st Amendment with several SC cases upholding the protections of hate speech. Speech with a clear incitement of violence is not protected under the 1st Amendment.

  • Plus1 1

Share this post


Link to post

Sometimes I wonder if the GOP actually would consider jettisoning Trump. They stand to lose big in November if this keeps up.

 

 

  • Plus1 2
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
1 hour ago, RedDenver said:

The bolded part is wrong. Not all hate speech incites violence.

 

Hate speech is protected under the 1st Amendment with several SC cases upholding the protections of hate speech. Speech with a clear incitement of violence is not protected under the 1st Amendment.

 

Take it up with the dictionary and wikipedia definition of what hate speech is and not me.  I posted a link to it but you didn't quote that part.

 

I'm not arguing that there isn't speech that his hateful toward others and that it's protected...I'm saying that the definition of hate speech according to authoritative sources (dictionary, wikipedia) is that violence is threatened against groups or individuals because of race, creed, religion, sex, orientation, etc.

 

That is the reason the subreddits spoken about were dissolved...their rights were not trampled on.  You incite violence against groups or individuals you lose your constitutional protection according to the supreme court.

Share this post


Link to post

Oh, you know, nothing to see here but more dog-whistles for Trump's racist base.

 

 

 

 

Easier to see here.  Forcing the flag into a circle is the icing on the cake.

 

 

 

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.










×
×
  • Create New...