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Joe is getting mushy, no reason to deny it, it happens.  It isn't like he is totally gone.

 

And Hillary might be hated by some because of being a "woman in politics" but really she is just not likeable as a human.  Some people are that way.  Just like there are some people that do a bunch of wrong crazy s#!t and people still love them.

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1 minute ago, knapplc said:

 

Eh. The silence is getting a little loud.

 

That's a fair comment.

 

Not that you (or anyone else here) care whatsoever, but I typically don't post in this forum because there are only a couple of people that can have a conversation without getting partisan-triggered (Buster, Guy Chamberlain, and teach typically do a good job of taking topics in isolation and discussing them). 

 

I observe that Biden is having cognitive issues. I could be wrong about that. But if I'm not wrong, I wish the Democrats would field a candidate that didn't. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Undone said:

 

That's a fair comment.

 

Not that you (or anyone else here) care whatsoever, but I typically don't post in this forum because there are only a couple of people that can have a conversation without getting partisan-triggered (Buster, Guy Chamberlain, and teach typically do a good job of taking topics in isolation and discussing them). 

 

I observe that Biden is having cognitive issues. I could be wrong about that. But if I'm not wrong, I wish the Democrats would field a candidate that didn't. 

 

I mean, the dude is 75, he has been "working" for what, 50+ years and in some stressful positions.  I would be more surprised if he DIDN'T have mushy moments.  

 

My dad is his age and has been retired for 20 years and has mushy moments.  

 

Is it going to be used against him?  Of course, because it is what you do.  s#!t, they did it to Ronnie ALL THE TIME.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Undone said:

 

That's a fair comment.

 

Not that you (or anyone else here) care whatsoever, but I typically don't post in this forum because there are only a couple of people that can have a conversation without getting partisan-triggered (Buster, Guy Chamberlain, and teach typically do a good job of taking topics in isolation and discussing them). 

 

I observe that Biden is having cognitive issues. I could be wrong about that. But if I'm not wrong, I wish the Democrats would field a candidate that didn't. 

 

 

You'll understand why that list of non-partisans isn't going to be met with much agreement. And the partisan list - which I fully acknowledge includes me - should include yourself as well, if you're being fair. 

 

You "observe" that Biden has cognitive issues. I would highly recommend you should not stop observing with Biden. 

 

From a few moments ago:

 

 

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19 minutes ago, knapplc said:

You'll understand why that list of non-partisans isn't going to be met with much agreement. And the partisan list - which I fully acknowledge includes me - should include yourself as well, if you're being fair. 

 

To the bold: Totally agree. I just don't love the debate, which is why I don't post here much. I've been cruising this sub out of pure boredom lately.

 

I'm mostly a Ron Paul-style Libertarian. I feel that the vast majority of Washington politicians are demonstrably stooges whose political careers are funded by corporations whose interests they serve, and not their constituents.

 

I have despised Trump from the very first moments he gained traction - he doesn't understand or care about constitutional rights at all, and he doesn't even know what he's doing. He's not even really a "Republican" or a "Conservative" anyway in my opinion; he's kind of his own brand of thing.

But in all seriousness - I'm mainly here to talk about Husker football.   :)

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1 hour ago, Undone said:

I have despised Trump from the very first moments he gained traction - he doesn't understand or care about constitutional rights at all, and he doesn't even know what he's doing. He's not even really a "Republican" or a "Conservative" anyway in my opinion; he's kind of his own brand of thing.

 

This is just plain wrong.  Run down the Bill of Rights and you'll find Trump took action on all of them. Often directly in opposition to the Obama-Biden administration.

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4 hours ago, TGHusker said:

tRump's approval down to 36%    Who are the 36%? :facepalm:

 

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3666

 

You have to keep in mind that 36% is still higher than the percentage of the country that truly supports him. The polls are biased at least in the fact that they only report people who willingly take part in them - how many 35 and under people do you know that take part in polling? Hell sometimes it feels like I haven't answered a phone call in years :lol: 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

There are one hell of a lot of people who just flat out don't like Hillary and it has nothing to do with her being a woman.

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Sure, there's idiots that are never going to vote for a woman. 

 

re: the bold, as far as they know. Stuff like this is complicated and largely unconscious. There are very few people who explicitly in their own heads decide "I don't like women" or "I don't like black people", yet the amount of evidence of unfavorable treatment is much higher than those small slivers of the population.

 

Not accusing you of this, just saying that Hillary being a woman and Hillary being unlikeable are different things, but in all of our heads they're weaved together like a messy matrix to some extent and it's not immediately easy to separate one from the other when you've got unconscious bias. 

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4 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Really???  You're saying that the Democrats are clearly putting up a guy who's suffering from dementia.....while ignoring the fact that a) they are cleverly cropped videos and...b) the guy has suffered from stuttering all his life and that's a symptom of that....and has nothing to do with his mental capacity.

 

But...you're falling for the propaganda like a fish begging for water.

 

Yeah. Dementia's not the right word at the moment, but it's really not propaganda either.  Plenty of times where Biden has gone off the rails and into word salads and cryptic anecdotes, and it's extremely generous to suggest it's all due to a stuttering issue. It's just who he is. Even as a beloved Vice-President he was most famous for his gaffes. I listened to one of Joe's South Carolina speeches live and in context and it was really disconcerting. That was when he was trailing in the primary. I think he's been a lot more solid as the front-runner, and he's had some outstanding and crystal clear responses to Trump.  But I guarantee you that the DNC and Biden's own team monitor him carefully and don't consider the issue unwarranted, even if opponents misuse the clips.  The fact that Donald Trump is demented in a variety of ways doesn't take Joe's acuity off the table. 

 

I can't wait to vote for Joe Biden. Because there's still time for him to f#&% this up. 

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1 hour ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

 

This is just plain wrong.  Run down the Bill of Rights and you'll find Trump took action on all of them. Often directly in opposition to the Obama-Biden administration.

 

Freedom of Speech?  The press is the enemy of the people. 

The Right to Bear Arms? He told supporters he'd have their Second Amendment backs if they wanted to shoot protestors practicing free speech. 

Unreasonable Search and Seizure?  Well he certainly didn't chime on on the killing of Breona Taylor

Pleading the Fifth?  Why plead when the President will pardon you for keeping your mouth shut?

The Emoluments Clause? Yeah, he took a lot of action on that. 

Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbor's Wife? Whoops. Now I'm into the Ten Commandments. He's made a mockery of those too.

 

Dude wouldn't know American civics if it bit him on the a$$, which God willing will happen soon. 

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11 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

We're also going to get a lot of China in the next few months for obvious reasons. 

 

Let's just make it clear up-front that no political party trusts China or refuses to challenge China. But both parties got us hugely indebted to China and our most avid Capitalists have been thrilled to work with the CCP when money is involved. And money is always involved. 

Biden is all over the China issue.  He's picking up Chinese phrases and quoting Mao Zedong.

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4 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

 

This is just plain wrong.  Run down the Bill of Rights and you'll find Trump took action on all of them. Often directly in opposition to the Obama-Biden administration.

He's right you guys! Obummer was pretty much for the Bill of Rights, Trump is not. 

 

This going to be fun...

 

1st Amendment

  • Freedom of religion: 
  • Freedom of Speech: 
  • Freedom of assembly and the right to petition:

2nd Amendment

 

 

But he's done nothing

 

3rd Amendment

  • Not quite quartering, but he can't legally send military into a state to enforce the law: 

4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th Amendments

  • Twitter won't allow me to share the infamous "when the looting starts the shooting a starts" tweet, but this proceeded it.
  • Eminent domain:

9th an 10th Amendments

 

 

So there you have it. Donald Trump and the Bill of Rights.

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^^^ Not to mention tonight in Oregon is at least the SECOND time he's had anonymous, unaccountable goon squads rolling around America delivering extrajudicial "justice" to American citizens. My money would be on Erik Prince's ragtag group of hired thugs.

 

He may as well have the Constitution hanging on a roll next to the toilet at this point.

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