The 2020 Presidential Election - Convention & General Election

[knapplc]

1 hour ago, ActualCornHusker said:

 

Not at all. It's definitely been a challenging conversation as i view the world through a different lens than a lot of the people here, but i agree, these conversations are good to have. 

 

Same. As long as we can remain civil and share our views, I have no doubt we can continue to have meaningful conversations that, in the end, confirm my viewpoints. 

 

[knapplc]

Posting this not because I think this is bad for Biden, because 30 years ago everyone thought Barr was a good dude. People become corrupted over time, and you can't hold this against Biden.

 

But holy moly, look at Joe's hair. 

 

 

[ActualCornHusker]

17 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

Same. As long as we can remain civil and share our views, I have no doubt we can continue to have meaningful conversations that, in the end, confirm my viewpoints. 

 

 

MORE TAXES! TAX EVERYTHING! TAX BREATHING!

Just messin' 

[ActualCornHusker]

18 hours ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

Yep, and that's why Nazi's weren't socialist and that's why the US will never be socialist...capitalism will prevent it.  So, you shouldn't be afraid of the word socialism and think it's the same negative connotation as being a Nazi or a communist.

 

Sorry, just getting back on here. My point is I'd never vote for a person who identifies as a socialist (the word democratic in front of it is meaningless), and I'd definitely never vote for someone who is on record saying this:

 

 

[Ratt Mhule]

4 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said:

 

Sorry, just getting back on here. My point is I'd never vote for a person who identifies as a socialist (the word democratic in front of it is meaningless), and I'd definitely never vote for someone who is on record saying this:

 

 

Yeah thats taken out of context. Hes saying hed rather people get food than starve. Hes not saying its ideal. Lets see the whole clip and not 10 seconds with no question being asked. 

[ActualCornHusker]

1 minute ago, Frott Scost said:

Yeah thats taken out of context. Hes saying hed rather people get food than starve. Hes not saying its ideal. Lets see the whole clip and not 10 seconds with no question being asked. 

 

I've watched the whole clip, and it's not out of context. It shows his absolute ignorance of the atrocities that socialism has caused every single time it's been tried, and it's extremely alarming. Even suggesting the idea that food lines are a good thing is inexcusable and completely disregards history. And what's MORE alarming about that statement is that it's exactly the opposite of reality - that the type of governmental control that he's defending in the video clip (socialism) results in the very thing that he's criticizing... 

[Waldo]

Me reading the last day of the thread 

[Ratt Mhule]

35 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said:

 

I've watched the whole clip, and it's not out of context. It shows his absolute ignorance of the atrocities that socialism has caused every single time it's been tried, and it's extremely alarming. Even suggesting the idea that food lines are a good thing is inexcusable and completely disregards history. And what's MORE alarming about that statement is that it's exactly the opposite of reality - that the type of governmental control that he's defending in the video clip (socialism) results in the very thing that he's criticizing... 

 

Even though Sanders has said over and over again he wants a Canadian, European and Scandanavian model for this country, Ill play the game. When people talk about Venezuelan socialism they leave out the part where US foreign policy has been just as bad in South American as it is in the Middle East. We have created so much instability in these countries and backed regime change wars for natural resources. Jesus we are backing a coup in Bolivia right now because we want their lithium. Do you concede that the US foreign policy in Venezuela has a little to do with the bread lines and not all because of socialism?

[knapplc]

45 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said:

It shows his absolute ignorance of the atrocities that socialism has caused every single time it's been tried

 

What form of government do you think is free from committing atrocities?

[ActualCornHusker]

5 minutes ago, Frott Scost said:

 

Even though Sanders has said over and over again he wants a Canadian, European and Scandanavian model for this country, Ill play the game. When people talk about Venezuelan socialism they leave out the part where US foreign policy has been just as bad in South American as it is in the Middle East. We have created so much instability in these countries and backed regime change wars for natural resources. Jesus we are backing a coup in Bolivia right now because we want their lithium. Do you concede that the US foreign policy in Venezuela has a little to do with the bread lines and not all because of socialism?

 

Someone in this very thread has said this (maybe Danny Bateman?): Regarding Bernie specifically, he's championed actual socialist and communist policies of other countries his entire political career and has recently softened his public affection for these ideals.

 

And yes, foreign policy of the US has been atrocious for decades, so I'll concede that the US has affected Venezuela, as long as you concede that Maduro murdering his citizens in the street and letting them starve while he's eating steak and feeding the leftovers to his dog has nothing to do with America and everything to do with the inevitable implications of socialism.

 

 

2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

What form of government do you think is free from committing atrocities?

 

None. That's why we should want as little government as possible 

[Nebfanatic]

20 hours ago, Frott Scost said:

 

Do you consider Canada, France, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, UK, etc socialist?

What atrocities are taking place in these countries?

[Ratt Mhule]

2 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said:

 

Someone in this very thread has said this (maybe Danny Bateman?): Regarding Bernie specifically, he's championed actual socialist and communist policies of other countries his entire political career and has recently softened his public affection for these ideals.

 

And yes, foreign policy of the US has been atrocious for decades, so I'll concede that the US has affected Venezuela, as long as you concede that Maduro murdering his citizens in the street and letting them starve while he's eating steak and feeding the leftovers to his dog has nothing to do with America and everything to do with the inevitable implications of socialism.

 

 

 

None. That's why we should want as little government as possible 

This sounds exactly like North Korea, which I would call facism more than socialism. Ill concede that Maduro sounds like a evil person whos govt allowed human rights abuses to take place. 

[Ratt Mhule]

4 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

What atrocities are taking place in these countries?

Boris Johnson

[ActualCornHusker]

Just now, Frott Scost said:

This sounds exactly like North Korea, which I would call facism more than socialism. Ill concede that Maduro sounds like a evil person whos govt allowed human rights abuses to take place. 

 

Is this a version of "That's not real socialism"?... Honestly trying to get what you're saying. Fascism is MANDATORY for socialism/communism to be implemented. 

[Nebfanatic]

Just now, ActualCornHusker said:

 

Is this a version of "That's not real socialism"?... Honestly trying to get what you're saying. Fascism is MANDATORY for socialism/communism to be implemented. 

Facism is facism. 

 

1 minute ago, Frott Scost said:

Boris Johnson

Lmao well done