BigRedBuster Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Biden just needs to go enjoy retirement. 2 Link to comment
ActualCornHusker Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Joe Biden: The hilariously creepy gift that keeps on giving... Link to comment
TGHusker Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 7:25 AM, knapplc said: Takeaway from that - Trump's lost 1/3 of that support. When he already lost the popular vote in 2016, he can't sustain any defections and still win in 2020. Correct, he won Florida, Mich, Penn, Wisc by vary narrow margins. In Mich and Penn he will be hurt by the fact that he didn't bring manufacturing jobs back. In Wisc, he will be hurt by farmers seeing the affect of the tariffs- I think he will be hard to repeat the Florida squeaker unless the Dems select a real bad candidate. As of now, all of the top running Dems are more appealing than Hillary - one could debate that Hillary's stated policies may be more moderate than Sanders/Warren but I think once in office she would have gone that way as well. Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Interesting article. Goes against conventional wisdom and makes a lot of sense. https://www.gq.com/story/political-pundits-moderate-obsession?fbclid=IwAR1SAz29l4EZupMcQvErEsMkRGKzpFM2R1YsbHuXfdH4CiYPnt2GNHGq4Uw Didn't embed for some reason. You'll just have to click. 1 1 Link to comment
ActualCornHusker Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Kamala Harris drops out of the race. Good. https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/03/kamala-harris-drops-out-out-of-presidential-race-074902 Link to comment
knapplc Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The race dropped out of Kamala Harris months and months ago. But now it's official. Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I think Kamala had been unofficially anointed by the DNC and checked off a lot of boxes for that unifying and unassailable Democrat who could carve Trump to pieces with her prosecutorial skill. She immediately attracted a lot of the top establishment advisers, the insiders who have to put their money down early. What a surprise that there was almost no one there waiting for her. Least of all the African-American community. I am sure that the last couple months have been utterly galling for Harris and her team, looking up at the likes of Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard outpolling her in her home state. Who will grab the 3% she leaves behind? Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: I think Kamala had been unofficially anointed by the DNC Really? I never got that feeling. 1 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 44 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: I think Kamala had been unofficially anointed by the DNC and checked off a lot of boxes for that unifying and unassailable Democrat who could carve Trump to pieces with her prosecutorial skill. She immediately attracted a lot of the top establishment advisers, the insiders who have to put their money down early. What a surprise that there was almost no one there waiting for her. Least of all the African-American community. I am sure that the last couple months have been utterly galling for Harris and her team, looking up at the likes of Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard outpolling her in her home state. Who will grab the 3% she leaves behind? Heard a good interview about this. Speculation based in when she peaked and when others have is that her voters will likely choose a more traditional dem - Biden/Buttigeig/Booker/Klobacher. Nobody thought Warren or Bernie would get them. Link to comment
Landlord Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Kamala is too establishment with too unclean of a record (especially in prosecuting minorities) to get the progressive vote and she's too minority/woman/progressively pandering to get the moderate vote. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I just want it to be knocked down to 3-4 candidates soon. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, knapplc said: The race dropped out of Kamala Harris months and months ago. But now it's official. I'm kind of surprised by this development. Her support in Iowa must be nil. With her debate skills I thought she would do better. Hopefully the NH and Iowa results will cut out all of the others who don't really have a chance and we can have some better debates between 3-5 candidates. Link to comment
NM11046 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, TGHusker said: I'm kind of surprised by this development. Her support in Iowa must be nil. With her debate skills I thought she would do better. Hopefully the NH and Iowa results will cut out all of the others who don't really have a chance and we can have some better debates between 3-5 candidates. She had only been to 19 of the counties in IA and had ZERO recognition other than, "I think she's from CA" and "I know she's a prosecuter". Her campaign was really run so very poorly and did her a disservice. She'll make a great VP candidate or the next AG. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, NM11046 said: She'll make a great VP candidate or the next AG. By dropping out early, I can very much see her as a VP candidate. You don't ruffle the feathers of the other candidates if you aren't on the debate stage. And yes, secondarily as a AG - where honestly she may be more effective. 1 Link to comment
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