The 2020 Presidential Election - Convention & General Election

[commando]

34 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

Looks like the Dems aren't going wt the 'youth movement' if that holds up -  Biden 75, Sanders 77 and Warren is the baby at age 69. 

I don't think that plays well in Peoria.... or other places. 

how old is trump?  apparently old works for politics.

[Landlord]

I'd rather Biden didn't run. He seems about as creepy with little girls as any non-accused person I've ever seen.

[TGHusker]

1 hour ago, commando said:

how old is trump?  apparently old works for politics.

Toooooo old  but also too many other things also

57 minutes ago, Landlord said:

I'd rather Biden didn't run. He seems about as creepy with little girls as any non-accused person I've ever seen.

And big girls too - how many shoulder rubs has he given....

[Danny Bateman]

Surely we had to realize Biden would do well in Iowa though, right? He's exactly the kind of politician that state loves.

 

If anything I think it kind of helps the argument that all primary voting should occur on the same day, like in the general. Or at least shorten the primary season significantly. Just so many arguments against a process that lasts close to half a year.

 

At least that's my take as someone who thinks Biden is the head and shoulders frontrunner but would really rather her not get the nomination.

[BigRedBuster]

 

[RedDenver]

15 minutes ago, Clifford Franklin said:

Surely we had to realize Biden would do well in Iowa though, right? He's exactly the kind of politician that state loves.

 

If anything I think it kind of helps the argument that all primary voting should occur on the same day, like in the general. Or at least shorten the primary season significantly. Just so many arguments against a process that lasts close to half a year.

 

At least that's my take as someone who thinks Biden is the head and shoulders frontrunner but would really rather her not get the nomination.

I'm too lazy to find it right now, but there was an article before the 2016 election campaigns showing that the leader in Iowa (or New Hampshire or one of those early primaries) rarely won the nomination.

[schriznoeder]

2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

 

What's the over-under on how much of his income Donnie spends on gold plating?

[Danny Bateman]

17 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

I'm too lazy to find it right now, but there was an article before the 2016 election campaigns showing that the leader in Iowa (or New Hampshire or one of those early primaries) rarely won the nomination.

 

That's reassuring at least. And a sample size of n = Ted Cruz is hard to argue with.

[schriznoeder]

1 hour ago, RedDenver said:

I'm too lazy to find it right now, but there was an article before the 2016 election campaigns showing that the leader in Iowa (or New Hampshire or one of those early primaries) rarely won the nomination.

 

1 hour ago, Clifford Franklin said:

 

That's reassuring at least. And a sample size of n = Ted Cruz is hard to argue with.

 

I haven't checked out historic New Hampshire Primary results, but here are Iowa Caucuses results courtesy of our friends at Wikipedia. I've highlighted the winners who went on to claim their party's nomination...

 

Democrat

1972 - "Uncommitted" (36%), Edmund Muskie (36%), George McGovern (23%), Hubert Humphrey (2%), Eugene McCarthy (1%), Shirley Chisholm (1%), and Henry M. Jackson (1%)

1976 - "Uncommitted" (37%), Jimmy Carter (28%) Birch Bayh (13%), Fred R. Harris (10%), Morris Udall (6%), Sargent Shriver (3%), and Henry M. Jackson (1%)

1980 - Jimmy Carter (59%) and Ted Kennedy (31%)

1984 - Walter Mondale (49%), Gary Hart (17%), George McGovern (10%), Alan Cranston (7%), John Glenn (4%), Reubin Askew (3%), and Jesse Jackson (2%)

1988 - Dick Gephardt (31%), Paul Simon (27%), Michael Dukakis (22%), and Bruce Babbitt (6%)

1992 - Tom Harkin (76%), "Uncommitted" (12%), Paul Tsongas (4%), Bill Clinton (3%), Bob Kerrey (2%), and Jerry Brown (2%)

1996 - Bill Clinton (98%), "Uncommitted" (1%), and Ralph Nader (1%)

2000 - Al Gore (63%), and Bill Bradley (37%)

2004 - John Kerry (38%), John Edwards (32%), Howard Dean (18%), Dick Gephardt (11%), and Dennis Kucinich (1%)

2008 - Barack Obama (38%), John Edwards (30%), Hillary Clinton (29%), Bill Richardson (2%), and Joe Biden (1%)

2012 - Barack Obama (98%) and "Uncommitted" (2%)

2016 - Hillary Clinton (49.8%), Bernie Sanders (49.6%), and Martin O'Malley (0.5%)

 

Republican

1976 - Gerald Ford (45%) and Ronald Reagan (43%)

1980 - George H. W. Bush (32%), Ronald Reagan (30%), Howard Baker (15%), John Connally (9%), Phil Crane (7%), John B. Anderson (4%), and Bob Dole (2%)

1984 - Ronald Reagan (unopposed)

1988 - Bob Dole (37%), Pat Robertson (25%), George H. W. Bush (19%), Jack Kemp (11%), and Pete DuPont (7%)

1992 - George H. W. Bush (unopposed)

1996 - Bob Dole (26%), Pat Buchanan (23%), Lamar Alexander (18%), Steve Forbes (10%), Phil Gramm (9%), Alan Keyes (7%), Richard Lugar (4%), and Morry Taylor (1%)

2000 - George W. Bush (41%), Steve Forbes (31%), Alan Keyes (14%), Gary Bauer (9%), John McCain (5%), and Orrin Hatch (1%)

2004 - George W. Bush (unopposed)

2008 - Mike Huckabee (34%), Mitt Romney (25%), Fred Thompson (13%), John McCain (13%), Ron Paul (10%), Rudy Giuliani (4%), and Duncan Hunter (1%)

2012 - Rick Santorum (25%), Mitt Romney (25%), Ron Paul (21%), Newt Gingrich (13%), Rick Perry (10%), Michele Bachmann (5%), and Jon Huntsman (0.6%)

2016 - Ted Cruz (27.7%), Donald Trump (24.3%), Marco Rubio (23.1%), Ben Carson (9.3%), Rand Paul (4.5%), Jeb Bush (2.8%), Carly Fiorina (1.9%), and others (7.3%)

[Ric Flair]

I’m looking forward to seeing 16 or so Democrats competing over who can be the most extreme, socialist nutjob in order to win over the base. It should be highly entertaining.

[commando]

32 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I’m looking forward to seeing 16 or so Democrats competing over who can be the most extreme, socialist nutjob in order to win over the base. It should be highly entertaining.

that's essentially what happened in the republican party.....a bunch of right wing nutjobs trying to be the most extreme.   Donnie won that competition

[Ric Flair]

13 minutes ago, commando said:

that's essentially what happened in the republican party.....a bunch of right wing nutjobs trying to be the most extreme.   Donnie won that competition

 

Trump isn’t right-wing. And I look forward to watching him chew up and spit out whoever wins the Democratic nomination. I haven’t see a single one of those idiots who has a prayer of winning.

[commando]

Just now, Ric Flair said:

 

Trump isn’t right-wing. And I look forward to watching him chew up and spit out whoever wins the Democratic nomination. I haven’t see a single one of those idiots who has a prayer of winning.

true...he is a born again christian with fascist cravings.

[mrandyk]

5 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

 

Trump isn’t right-wing. And I look forward to watching him chew up and spit out whoever wins the Democratic nomination. I haven’t see a single one of those idiots who has a prayer of winning.

Would you describe 2016 as Trump chewing up and spitting Hillary out? Because she did get 3 million more votes than he did, anyone they nominate in 2020 will be far more likable, and we will be that much further into this clusterf#&% administration, if Trump even makes it that far.

[schriznoeder]

17 hours ago, mrandyk said:

Would you describe 2016 as Trump chewing up and spitting Hillary out? Because she did get 3 million more votes than he did, anyone they nominate in 2020 will be far more likable, and we will be that much further into this clusterf#&% administration, if Trump even makes it that far.

 

You can run for president from a federal prison, right?